Topic: Hmmmmmm, copper is almost 4 bucks a lb, and now microwave metal melting tech! (Read 1867 times)

Jack Morris · « **on:** July 15, 2006, 03:49:16 pm »

http://home.c2i.net/metaphor/mvpage.html

http://home.c2i.net/metaphor/Microwave_cast_pictures.html

http://www.metalprices.com/#

Death_Merchant · « **Reply #1 on:** July 16, 2006, 11:09:28 am »

Microwave heating and sintering of metal is not new. More recent papers are out of U of Penn.
Bottom line: limited to small scale due to difficulty of establishing uniform heating, most successful techniques involve indirect heating (heat the container)

Jack Morris · « **Reply #2 on:** July 16, 2006, 11:44:17 am »

I'm gonna look into this, microwave ovens are cheap. I have a lot of aluminum cans, and it would be so much easier to melt them down into bars and just put in the trunk on the way to the recycling center to get some cash.

I've also been getting pennies and going through them and picking out the 82 and before dated ones. I do not lose money as we have machines at HEB that count them and spit out a receipt that you take to the cashier to get cash in bills instead of coins. I'm just waiting for the Feds to get smart and quit minting pennies and nickels, they cost far more to mint than it's value on the market, EXCEPT for the 82 and before ones, those are the ones loaded with copper.

Of course, there are plenty of scrap dealers with the ovens on their properties that will not ask too many questions about where the copper came from so long as nobody else sees it and goes "Hmmmmm, you are bringing pennies here, why?"

Fedman NCC-3758 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 16, 2006, 11:46:33 am »

The price of copper, like oil and every other commodity will clime dramatically due to the emerging of our economic and military rival, the "Middle Kingdom".

For those in Rio Linda, that's China.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #4 on:** July 16, 2006, 11:51:50 am »

Not just them, but India too I imagine. Be glad I'm not President, I'd make it mandatory that Americans recycle, just like it is in Germany. You do not want to get caught throwing trash in the wrong bin.

Fedman NCC-3758 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 16, 2006, 11:53:34 am »

We would be wise to make India a close ally.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #6 on:** July 16, 2006, 12:12:55 pm »

Heck, I got half their country living here in Austin.

Most of them are good people, but very private. Their kids? Growing up with foul mouths and the silver spoon in their mouth as well. I think Eastern Indians living in the U.S. will see a great change in their culture with the next generation.

Fedman NCC-3758 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 16, 2006, 12:19:34 pm »

To fully understand why China has the potential to be the west's greatest threat, one needs to understand why China refers to itself as the "Middle Kingdom". We ignore it at our own peril.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #8 on:** July 16, 2006, 03:14:55 pm »

Who did business with Iraq during the sanctions? According to the U.S., we were supposed to cut off all trade to nations violating a U.N. imposed economic and military sanction.

I guess somebody let China and the EU slide on that one. Wal-Mart would have had a knipsh*te.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #9 on:** July 17, 2006, 09:54:37 am »

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=ahszHanfFVng

Must be nice, I wish there was an inexpensive home forge way of extracting nickel!

Oh well, I gotta get more rolls of pennies so I can sock away some more copper!

Fedman NCC-3758 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 17, 2006, 10:03:24 am »

Quote from: Jack Morris on July 17, 2006, 09:54:37 am

Oh well, I gotta get more rolls of pennies so I can sock away some more copper!

Not to burst yer bubble or financial plans but, today's pennies are mostly zink.

Sorry.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #11 on:** July 17, 2006, 10:09:14 am »

Quote from: Fedman NCC-3758 on July 17, 2006, 10:03:24 am

Quote from: Jack Morris on July 17, 2006, 09:54:37 am

Oh well, I gotta get more rolls of pennies so I can sock away some more copper!

Not to burst yer bubble or financial plans but, today's pennies are mostly zink.

Sorry.

You forgot to read where I posted that I hunt for 1982 and before pennies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cent_%28U.S._coin%29

I know my prey well and did my homework for you guys.

Jack Morris · « **Reply #12 on:** July 17, 2006, 10:11:35 am »

Legality
The process of creating elongated coins is legal in the United States, Japan, South Africa and parts of Europe. In the United States, U.S. Code Title 18, Chapter 17, Section 331 prohibits "the mutilation, diminution and falsification of United States coinage." The foregoing statute, however, does not prohibit the mutilation of coins if the mutilated coins are not used fraudulently, i.e., with the intention of creating counterfeit coinage. Because elongated coins are made mainly as souvenirs, mutilation for this purpose is legal. It is no longer illegal in Great Britain to mutilate the image of the Queen, It is still illegal in Canada and blank planchets, slugs or U.S. pennies are occasionally used, though this law is often ignored both by the users of the machine and law enforcement.

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Hmmmmm, grey area of the law?

Nice to know I can elongate them then do whatever I want!

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