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...by grabbing up F1's Juan Pablo Montoya and perhaps the IRL's Dannica Patrick.  Add to that F1 wrecking machine Michael Schumacher's imminent retirement (his domination a reason why people are getting turned off by F1 these days), open-wheel racing might not just be dead in the States, but could be waning overseas in favor of NASCAR.  All I can say is...halleujah!  Down with go-carts!


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Re: NASCAR on the verge of becoming the dominant form of auto racing...
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 08:35:41 am »
Well, I'm a NASCAR fan, but I don't think I would want it to be the only form of racing out there.  I like watching a good IRL race sometimes.  Those cars are fast and they have had some very close finishes.  Good stuff.  NASCAR is definitely the fastest growing racing, but there is plenty of room for other types too and NASCAR needs to fix some of their problems.  They need to fix the Busch series for example.  How are the newer/younger drivers suppsed to get experience if the Cup drivers are taking up all the spots on the track and winning the races/money?  And I don't like the whole race to the championship thing.  So if you are #11 for the last 10 races of the year you have no chance to move up and are basically racing just not to drop down and loose money.  And if you are #1 and a bunch of points up all the hard work you've done through the year is thrown out and the points are reset.   :P

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Re: NASCAR on the verge of becoming the dominant form of auto racing...
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2006, 08:41:23 am »
The reason JPM is going back to the US is that there was a very distinct likelyhood that he wouldnt be offered any contract for next year. The US is turning off from F1 and to be honest I dont blame you all after last years Indi debacle but the rest of the world isnt. With new circuits opening and new markets equally opening up F1 is still rosy.

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Re: NASCAR on the verge of becoming the dominant form of auto racing...
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2006, 08:55:22 am »
JPM,
Hes just lost his race seat at McClaren and replaced by the test driver. Not a very dignified end to his F1 career.

New Markets,
Because Fernando Alonso is know the World Champion Spain has gotten onto the the F1 bandwagon with a vengance significantly increasing vueing figures in Spain. Russia is building a track and has its own F1 team so expect russian vueing figures to climb drematically. China's vueing figures are steadily increasing.

NASCAR just doesnt have the veuing figures outside of the states to comapre to F1

Viewing Figures,
F1 - 354 million worldwide per grand prix
NASCAR - Cant find them anyone got them?
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Re: NASCAR on the verge of becoming the dominant form of auto racing...
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2006, 11:27:23 am »
Gotta agree - with the arrival of Alonso over the last two championships, it's no longer the Schumacher show.  So much so that I'm driving all the way to Monza for the Italian Grand Prix in September!  ;D

Mind you, anyone catch those diesel Audi's winning Le Man this year?  That was impressive!
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Re: NASCAR on the verge of becoming the dominant form of auto racing...
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2006, 02:51:34 pm »
LOL...

Add to this that TOYOTA has signed on for the 2007 season,and you have a winning deal!

That's right, there is now a forigen company racing in NASCAR under a forigen name- we all know that DB has been doing it for years and calling themselves Mopar, but now someone is brave enough to do it for real.

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By Roland Jones
Business editor
MSNBC
Updated: 5:48 p.m. CT Jan 26, 2006

In the fierce struggle to win over the hearts and minds of American automobile consumers, Toyota is preparing to do battle in the nation’s heartland.

This week, Toyota announced it plans to become the first foreign manufacturer since the 1950s to supply cars for NASCAR’s top series, entering a Camry — the nation’s best-selling car — in the NASCAR Nextel Cup and Busch series in 2007.

The move has predictably stirred up some debate among racing enthusiasts and evoked some red, white and blue patriotism. But jingoism aside, analysts say Toyota’s racing strategy rally comes down to consumer demographics, and it has the potential to drive large dividends to the Japanese automaker.

“This is all about getting Toyota out there in front of the NASCAR fan, and that fan tends to be more of a blue-collar consumer,” said Bruce Harrison, senior automotive consultant at the consultancy Global Insight. “And if these people start to embrace Toyota, it’s going to spell big trouble for General Motors and Ford.”

A road trip through the middle of America shows that, as a general rule, blue-collar workers, who mainly live in the center of the country, tend to be loyal to the so-called Big Three — GM, Ford and Chrysler — and buy American cars. Meanwhile, on the coasts — where some the politically Democratic, or “blue” states are found — consumers tend to buy more foreign-made cars: BMWs, Toyotas and Hondas.

The trend presents a problem for manufacturers like Toyota, which only sees about 15 percent of its sales in the U.S. Midwest. “American” automakers, like GM and Ford, on the other hand, while they tend to have a loyal following in the center of the country, where may of their assembly plants are located, are struggling to increase their sales in coastal regions of the country.

In an effort to erode Detroit’s supremacy in the American heartland, Toyota has formulated what its executives have called a “Heartland Strategy,” which includes its entry of a Toyota Camry the top Nextel and Busch NASCAR race series next year and a recent marketing partnership with the National Basketball Association.

Toyota follows its Detroit counterparts in hitching its sales wagon to NASCAR, one of the nation’s most popular and fast-growing sports. Toyota began competing in NASCAR in the 2000 Goody’s Dash Series and for the past two years has raced in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series with its Tundra pickup. But the involvement in NASCAR’s top races, with its strong corporate sponsorship where for years U.S. automakers would “win on Sunday and sell on Monday,” presents a big opportunity for the firm.

NASCAR estimates it has some 75 million fans who purchase over $2 billion in annual licensed product sales. They are among the most brand-loyal, with an estimated 72 percent opting to buy the products sponsoring their favorite drivers according to NASCAR.

“These events draw 200,000 people and they are incredibly loyal,” said Rebecca Lindland, an automotive analyst at consultancy Global Insight.

“If the car you’re following is sponsored by Tide, you’ll only buy Tide — it’s just the NASCAR way. This is a driver-driven sport, and so if Michael Waltrip is driving a Toyota car you’re going to support Toyota, and it’s going to bring a lot of people into a Toyota dealership that don’t normally go in there,” Lindland said.

Toyota will start its NASCAR racing with three teams and six cars — the established two-car team owned by Bill Davis, the team owned by two-time Daytona 500 winner Michael Waltrip, which is moving up from Busch, and the all-new Team Red Bull.

Global Insight’s Bruce Harrison expects a deal between Toyota and Lowe's Motor Speedway, the North Carolina race track that is considered the home of NASCAR racing, and Speedway Motorsports, a race track management company, to yield many promotional opportunities for Toyota.

“What Toyota has done here is not only get NASCAR’s approval, they also have leverage where these events take place,” said Harrison. “NASCAR supporters tend to go to a race track and spend a lot of time there, so Toyota can display trucks and really engage the blue collar crowd.
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Re: NASCAR on the verge of becoming the dominant form of auto racing...
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2006, 07:34:52 pm »
That's right, there is now a forigen company racing in NASCAR under a forigen name- we all know that DB has been doing it for years and calling themselves Mopar, but now someone is brave enough to do it for real.


Foreign car companies have raced in NASCAR before, such as Jaguar.


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Re: NASCAR on the verge of becoming the dominant form of auto racing...
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2006, 09:47:16 pm »
Foreign car companies have raced in NASCAR before, such as Jaguar.

Yeah, but not for 50 years or so.
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