Topic: Amd terminates a few Sockets 939,AM2,754...

[Sirgod]

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20060622PR211.html

AMD prepares for battle: Terminates multiple processor models; prepares price cuts of up to 46%
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To simplify its production portfolio, AMD will stop producing a number of Socket AM2, 939 and 754 processors later this year, with the company not taking orders for the processors after June 28, according to industry sources.

The Socket 939 Athlon 64 4000+ and 3700+ will be the first to be phased out, with orders for the models ending on June 28, while delivery will cease on July 2. Delivery for the other processors will cease at the end of the year.

After the cuts the Athlon 64 4800+ and 3500+ will be the only remaining models in the Socket 939 series, the sources indicated.

Motherboard makers claim AMD is slimming down its product offerings in order to prepare for a price war with Intel in the second half of 2006. AMD is determined to match Intel on price cuts for its processors.

However, prices of AMD's Athlon 64 X2 1MB×2 (4800+, 4400+, 4000+) will not be reduced, only prices on Athlon 64 X2 512KB x2 (5000+, 4600+, 4200+, 3800+) will be lowered, the makers indicated.

In the past, AMD had promised that it would not end orders for its mainstream single-core 939 and 754 series. However, the company has changed its strategy due to the threat from Intel. Motherboard makers indicated they were afraid they may not be able to clear out their Socket 939 and 745 motherboards.

Several years ago Intel migrated its processor series from Socket 423 to Socket 478, causing several motherboard makers to end up stuck with Socket 423 motherboard inventory and the makers are worried that situation may repeat itself.

Graph on link showing Reduced prices /Socket my friends.

Stephen

[E_Look]

Aw...

... it really wasn't all that long ago (just a couple of years) when AMD's skt 754 and its first Athlon 64 was the cat's meow.  I think we ought to call together all the language experts of every ethnic nation on earth and have everyone redefine "obsolete"; there ought to be a defined time on what that word means!!     

[Sirgod]

I hear that, I still use my 939, and It was one of the most Versatile CPU MB combos, I ever used.

Stephen

[Nemesis]

Aw...

... it really wasn't all that long ago (just a couple of years) when AMD's skt 754 and its first Athlon 64 was the cat's meow.  I think we ought to call together all the language experts of every ethnic nation on earth and have everyone redefine "obsolete"; there ought to be a defined time on what that word means!!     

You may remember 1997 when Intel introduced Slot 1 which was supposed to be the wave of the future?  Then in 1999 - 2000 they introduced the Pentium III on slot 1 migrated it to socket 370 then in 2000 they added the Pentium IV with sockets 423 and 428.   Two years and 2 processors with 3 separate sockets that obsoleted the slot that was supposed to take us for years as sockets were not capable enough?  All brought about because of competition from AMD. 

AMDs Athlon 64 sockets have lasted longer and are changing because of competition from Intel (the up coming Conroe) as well as changing memory technology and motherboard design.   The socket 754 (introduced in 2004) was used until a chipset could be created for the 939 socket without requiring extra layers and driving up expense for the mother board makers.  The socket 754 was continued (still for sale locally) as a home for the Sempron budget chip line when the 939 was introduced in 2004.  The AM2 change is to accomodate the shift from DDR memory to DDR2 memory with twice the clockspeed now and higher speeds to come. 

Just as I understood and accepted Intels reasons for changing slot/sockets back in 1999-2000 I understand and accept AMD doing so in 2004-2006.  Valid market reasons caused by competition and technological change. 

You might wish to consider how fast the designs changed in the first 50 years of the railroad, iron clad, aircraft and automobile and remember that the microprocessor based computers began ~1977 only 30 years ago, we still could face decades more of rapid evolution of computer design. 

[E_Look]

My aching wallet.

[Nemesis]

My aching wallet.

I'm waiting for the dual socket motherboard for AMD (and maybe quad core too) to come out before I look at upgrading again.  My Athlon XP 3200+ still does what I need.

[Sirgod]

Same here, Might be grabbing another HD soon though. I'm tempted to try a XP pro/ Vista Beta Dual boot, just to see what Vista is like, and report back the Ugly resource hogging monster... I mean give an unbiased report on it here.

Stephen

[Nemesis]

Same here, Might be grabbing another HD soon though. I'm tempted to try a XP pro/ Vista Beta Dual boot, just to see what Vista is like, and report back the Ugly resource hogging monster... I mean give an unbiased report on it here.

Stephen

Linux.  Until Microsoft understands whose computer it is I don't buy another Microsoft program that can be avoided. 

[E_Look]

I try my best to avoid downloading that MS "Genuine Advantage" thing.  I don't think they have any business going through my hard drive looking for stuff.

How would each of their board members like it if any PC owner could just break into their houses, any time of day, and look for stuff- "Hey, Bill!  Those are MY argyle socks!  I'm taking 'em back!"; "I swear that Bud Light was in MY 'fridge a coupla days ago.  Give it back!"

[Nemesis]

Or if the land he bought was reposssessed by the prior owners because it is being used in an unauthorized manner.

[Just plain old Punisher]

My computer is about a year old, and I'm thinking of upgrading. But the bitch of it is that now I have to replace everything. Motherboard, processor, memory, hard drives, power supply.

=P To get what I want, it's going to cost at least a grand (And that's me building the sucker).

Ah well, money well spent =)

[E_Look]

I am nowadays of the opinion that you really can't get a "good" system for too much less than a k-buck.  Those $500 HPs, SONYs, Gateways, Dells, etc. all cut some corners, either in the video subsystem or in the motherboard itself, or even hard drive capacity and RAM and even then they use either lesser parts or proprietary designs that will make you pull all your hair out if you try to modify, upgrade, replace or repair any part of it.

I think you've hit on a sweet spot price range for a computer nowadays.

[Nemesis]

(And that's me building the sucker).

Leave out the booby traps and antipersonell weapons and you may get the cost down a little though it just won't have that "Punisher touch".

[Just plain old Punisher]

(And that's me building the sucker).

Leave out the booby traps and antipersonell weapons and you may get the cost down a little though it just won't have that "Punisher touch".

Not to mention that I would be woefully unprepared for all these first person shooter death matches I keep hearing about.

::minion wispers in puns ear:: Uh sir, they don't actually kill anyone in those.

WHAT?! That what in the hell am I gonna do with the router I designed that spits boiling acid at computer users on remote command?!

[Nemesis]

That what in the hell am I gonna do with the router I designed that spits boiling acid at computer users on remote command?!

Market it as a door to door salesman deterrent?