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Offline Captain Pierce

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The Trek that might have been?
« on: June 19, 2006, 09:41:25 pm »
Bryce Zabel (who, as creator of NBC's Dark Skies, introduced the world to future "7 of 9" actress Jeri Lynn Ryan ;) ), who worked with Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczynski on a now-legendary proposal for a "Star Trek reboot," just posted on his blog the treatment that they pitched to Paramount.  And damn, is it good.  :D

I can only hope there's still some way to get this on the air...
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Re: The Trek that might have been?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2006, 01:22:19 pm »
 
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"We can also do something that the original Star Trek did to great success:  purchase and adapt short stories by leading SF writers.  The original Trek made use of the creative work of Richard Matheson, Robert Bloch, Harlan Ellison, Jerome Bixby, Frederic Brown, Norman Spinrad and Theodore Sturgeon.  They provided the stories behind some of Trek's most original, innovative episodes.

"Now imagine a new Star Trek calling upon the talents of writers like Neil Gaiman, Stephen King, Ray Bradbury, Dean Koontz, Michael Crichton, Ann rice, Kurt vonnegut, Anne McCaffrey, and others."

Yes!  Yes!!  YES!!!   Oh my God!   YES!!!!!

I've said this on these forums many times and still agree with it.    *This* is why the new Treks have never been as good as the original and have continually spiraled downwards.  It's like old JMS is reading my mind.

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Re: The Trek that might have been?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2006, 05:29:51 pm »
Huh, except Bradbury and Vonnegut all of those are fantasy/horror writerrs and not Sci Fi...and don't deal with the questions that Sci Fi typically explore...but normally either the fantastical...or the "how can I either freak or scare these people."

Of course good sci fi writers are in short supply now days.

Ben Bova has some new ones out, then there's Herbert and Janet Asimov actually wrote Sci Fi with her husband and I believe she's still around. 
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Re: The Trek that might have been?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2006, 09:35:21 pm »
Huh, except Bradbury and Vonnegut all of those are fantasy/horror writerrs and not Sci Fi...and don't deal with the questions that Sci Fi typically explore...but normally either the fantastical...or the "how can I either freak or scare these people."

Gaiman, Koontz, and Chrichton can all handle science fiction very well.  I haven't seen any SF from King, but he handles character exceptionally well; even when his stories aren' the equal to his cast.  In any event, the setting they usually work at is less important than their ability to define characters and craft a story.

I don't know how healthy Harlan Ellison is these days after his heart attack, but JMS might could get him to write for Trek again.  Ellison served as script consultant for the Babylon 5 series and I would presume they get on well; since Ellison has no reputation for spending much time at all with people he doesn't get on well with.

Of course, this is all dust in the breeze.    It isn't going to happen.

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Re: The Trek that might have been?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2006, 05:16:35 pm »
No offense to Dracho, but the seperation of sci-fi into so many 'subgenres' is one of the things wrong with it at the moment, and one of the better things about the original ST is that it took place before all that nonsense.

TOS had 'regular' sci-fi, space opera, sci-fi as social/political commentary, horror, comedy, etc.  Much like the Twilight Zone, you never knew quite what you were gonna get from week to week.  That's something they need for any new series that's been lacking for a long time.

So no disqualifying authors because they write 'this kind' of sci-fi.
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Re: The Trek that might have been?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2006, 09:54:28 am »
I don't think Hollywood has used different writers for a show in ages..geeze, I can't even think of one EXCEPT ToS.

It is an intriguing idea.
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Re: The Trek that might have been?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2006, 06:44:32 pm »
Babylon 5 redux.  No thanks.  A search for an ancient race that will help to save humanity, etc, etc.  This is alot of the same ground trodden by B5.  Each season a year.  B5.

Action oriented?  Exciting?  B5 is so slow and boring.  Nothing happens on that show.  I am watching it now.  Season 4.  It takes literally forever on that show for anything to happen, for anything to resolve.  I do not want to be subjected to B5's continual suspension of resolving plots because they have no ideas, and it's sappy sentimentality because they have no soul.

Anybody but these jokers, please.


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