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Offline Hexx

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Katfight
« on: May 30, 2006, 07:36:32 am »


(Yes the opening quote is kinda borrowed, unless you have no idea where it might be from, then I thought of it)

Yes! The Kzin. Savages. Animals.  They eat sentient beings.They killed over a million people on Nova Terra .
They destroyed the Lyran colony on Gateway. And what did the Federation do? You made peace with them.
 
-Lyran response to Federation Peace Iniatiative 2267

Katfight will portray the savage battles that raged along the Lyran-Kzin front for the length of the General War.
Despising the necessity, yet alone willing to make the sacrifice. The Lyran Alliance strove to destroy the threat of the Kzin before they
could be unleashed upon an unsuspecting galaxy. Betrayed by their allies and dismayed by the politics that had other Empires embrace the vileness that was the Kzin , the Lyrans struggled on alone, in a noble effort to keep the teeming hordes of Kzin in check.

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Features
NEW MISSIONS!
Yes Evil Dave is back! There will be some new missions that seem to have the very terrain conspiring against you.
There will be new patrols, new things to encounter, new decisions to be made, and some new strategies that will need to be devised.
A Hint?
Well let's just say the days of the 20 minute planetary assault are over...

LIMITED SPECIALTY SHIPS
-Specialty ships will only be available in accounts created at the server start. These acount info will be emailed to the RM once the ships FYA
matches the server date. Anyone can fly them, but it should be noted that the prestige earned from flying a specialty ship stays with the ship
You don't get to keep it. Think of it as using the specialty ship in it's strategic role, rather than because it kicks ass in PVP.
And of course- once the ship is destroyed (for any reason) it's gone for good.
Yes even the hand of Bethke. (Just assume you had Finney but no Kirk- and yes I had to look that up   )

There will be anywhere from 1-3 (possibly 4) of the specialty ships created. This will be using SFB like defintions- so (for example)
the DF will be restricted, the DWD will likely not. (until I can confirm their rarity) There will be only 1 STL etc. Some unique or CJ ships will be present (The Lyrans will have a CVA for example) but there will only be one of each.


But what about

-DN's & BCH's will be handled slightly differently (CVA's/BCV's will likely belong in the specialty category) you may purchase and fly these ships sans limit, with the exception that there can only be X number of them on at a time, and that once you've been killed in one you can't fly another.

Anything up to and including CCH's will likely be without limit and/or restrictions.

I'd heard
Carriers-
All carriers will have their full (up to 24) SFB allocation of fighters while deck crews will be reduced.
This will (hopefully) turn the smaller carriers (with 12 instead of  into more dangerous opponets.
It is important to note that having groups of 6 fighters does not always mean that 6 fighters will be shooting,
(from basic AI fights I've seen anywhere from 4-6 fire) but you're fighters will have a little more durability.

PF's will work in groups of 6 for tenders, based on other's work we we have 1 Leader, 1 scout, 2 "normal"
each of the normal PF's will have the ability to carry one other PF. The scout will likely simply have an extra phaser
or two .

It's also possible (after I bother Herr burt) that PF Flotillas will be permitted. These will basically be the PF's sans
tender- and possibly will be allowed to join up  (so 2 players could have no "line ships" but 12 PF's, 3 could have 18....)
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Re: Katfight
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2006, 09:51:28 am »
<shrug>

Yeah, kinda following the GW thing as I said

EDIT: And before anyone else gets confused- if you feel you need an unlimited supply of the cheesier ships (on either side) as 'Growler"  seems to feel, then it may not be for you.
Please do note though, the DF is available, just not in unlimited numbers to throw at hex flipping.


However- again all the command variants are present, and from what I can tell
The DWL's match up
the CWL's match up
the CC's match up
the CCH's match up
the BCH's are decidely in favour of the Lyran
the DN's are advantage Kzin (except arguably the STL)
pretty much any carrier is advantage Kzin (although the fighters are almost identical)
PF's + Int's are advantage Kzin

The difference is the Lyrans get their DWL's/CWL's first.




« Last Edit: May 30, 2006, 10:34:16 am by Hexx »
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Re: Katfight
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2006, 02:44:34 pm »
(Just assume you had Finney but no Kirk- and yes I had to look that up   )

Yeah, how many captains are willing to evacuate their entire ship, just so they can listen for the heartbeat of an officer they think they've already killed?

That Kirk.   He's one of a kind.   ;)

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Re: Katfight
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2006, 06:40:44 pm »
I dont care what the rules are, I am sure FSD will be there.  Lyrans are involved.  BTW, do it Hexx.

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Re: Katfight
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2006, 11:07:58 pm »


the BCH's are decidely in favour of the Lyran Even superior to the "Moggy BCH", I'd take the Lyran BCHs vs the Kzinti DNs for a match that is anything near even. by a good deal
the DN's are advantage Kzin (except arguably the STL)Disagree, Lyrans have great DNs


Of course to prove me Wrong Hexx will be flying Kzin and scoring lots of kills in the Kzinti DNS......yeah right  ::) :P ;D
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Re: Katfight
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2006, 07:25:04 am »
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Well let's just say the days of the 20 minute planetary assault are over...

20 minute Planetary assault?  Looks over at Chuut. Did he actually say "20 minutes"  ;D


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Re: Katfight
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2006, 07:36:23 am »
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Well let's just say the days of the 20 minute planetary assault are over...

20 minute Planetary assault?  Looks over at Chuut. Did he actually say "20 minutes"  ;D

Well they could have been trying to kill their wingman, that can take a while  ;)

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Re: Katfight
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2006, 08:01:31 am »


the BCH's are decidely in favour of the Lyran Even superior to the "Moggy BCH", I'd take the Lyran BCHs vs the Kzinti DNs for a match that is anything near even. by a good deal
the DN's are advantage Kzin (except arguably the STL)Disagree, Lyrans have great DNs


Of course to prove me Wrong Hexx will be flying Kzin and scoring lots of kills in the Kzinti DNS......yeah right  ::) :P ;D

Actually I was toying with the idea of flying Kzin.. maybe if I set up a different racial UI.
Anyway- it's possible the Lyran DN's are a match for the Kzin (I still don't think so- not until you get to teh DNH upgrade, and I still think the Kzin one is tougher)
But the Kzin will likely be flying CVA's in any event so...
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Re: Katfight
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2006, 06:13:30 pm »
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Well let's just say the days of the 20 minute planetary assault are over...

20 minute Planetary assault?  Looks over at Chuut. Did he actually say "20 minutes"  ;D

Average time for this mission in a Pirate ship was about 8 mins.  Guess I better expect they will take at least 12 now  ;)

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Re: Katfight
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2006, 07:28:36 pm »
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Well let's just say the days of the 20 minute planetary assault are over...

20 minute Planetary assault?  Looks over at Chuut. Did he actually say "20 minutes"  ;D

Average time for this mission in a Pirate ship was about 8 mins.  Guess I better expect they will take at least 12 now  ;)

Not exactly....
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Re: Katfight
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2006, 08:30:19 pm »
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Well let's just say the days of the 20 minute planetary assault are over...


20 minute Planetary assault?  Looks over at Chuut. Did he actually say "20 minutes"  ;D


Average time for this mission in a Pirate ship was about 8 mins.  Guess I better expect they will take at least 12 now  ;)


Ok so where is "Gumby"?



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Re: Katfight
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2006, 01:45:39 pm »
Preliminary ship numbers (ie the created accounts would be)

Type  YFA    Number
ZDF       -      4
PFT     18      1
MCV    11      2
MDC    07      2
MPF    16       2
CVD    10       1
CVP    11       2
BCV    18       1
DNL    -          1
DNH*  16       1*
CVA*  10       1*

CV      9        1
STT    7        2
CVL    8         1
STJ    8         2
PFW   15       2
PFT    15       2
CVA    12       1
CVP     11      2
CVM    11      1
STL     10       1
DNL     -         1
DNH*   17        1*   

Yes this wil change as ships are added/ removed/whenever I get bored etc.

Again (as I've been questioned) if yer flying one of these boats, and it goes boom, you don't get another to replace it. (You can of course use another account if one still exists)so yes- it is
theoretically possible for one player on a side to use & lose every restricted ship their side has.
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Re: Katfight
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2006, 03:31:17 pm »
Ugh, do you really want CVD's?

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Re: Katfight
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2006, 04:56:51 pm »
Dunno.. I like fighters (as I'm sure the rules point to) but admit they're complete cheddar in big numbers
I'm thinking that by limiting it to 3 ships total it migh not be to bad.

Sides, there's always admin shuttles  :P
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