Topic: OTish: Model news from Star Trek: Legacy (Read 4070 times)

Rat Boy · « **on:** May 16, 2006, 01:39:03 pm »

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Legacy will cover all the eras of Star Trek, and it features vessels from every Star Trek television series, including the original series, Enterprise, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager. There are more than 60 vessels in the game, and we're told that some of the most dedicated and capable Star Trek ship modelers contributed to the game, including Rick Knox, who designed some of the most photo-realistic mods for Star Trek: Bridge Commander. Each vessel has between 5,000 and 10,000 polygons, and they really come to life like never before in a game.

What's your high-end SFC model run you these days?

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2006, 01:57:18 pm »

Basically in that ballpark. If I'm not mistaken.....this one has a spoiler on it

intermech · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2006, 02:12:30 pm »

Man, I am sure not a fan of that ship right there. It looks similar to the FBB from SFC, I thought they could have done better than that

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2006, 02:21:34 pm »

I have a feeling that, although I might be able to handle this for the most part given the model descriptions (of how many polygons ship models have) since I have a bunch of high-polygon models for SFC1, something keeps telling me I might have to have a computer upgrade before I ever get Star Trek: Legacy, if trying out the demo version of "Nexus: The Jupiter Incident" told me anything.

Rat Boy · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2006, 02:23:50 pm »

You may have to anyway if the game requires a DX9-era card like Bethesda's Oblivion did.

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2006, 03:23:08 pm »

That's what I was afraid of since I haven't ever got around to upgrading anything in three years. *shrug* Oh well. Maybe I'll get around to it this year or next but otherwise I might just go ahead and stick to the older games like SFC1 or 2.

Legacy looks promising graphics-wise (the models look good, albeit in that other video the name and registry for the refitted Big E looks off), but we'll find out how good it is in every other aspect upon its release when most of us get the chance to get a heads-on try at it (I say most for the aforementioned reasons my first few sentences in this message states).

Starforce2 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2006, 05:27:54 pm »

that connie manuvers like an old biplane, drags it's tail and looks like it's being lead along by the nose. I hate the way it seems to manuver.

Tus-XC · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2006, 05:33:53 pm »

Quote from: Starforce2 on May 16, 2006, 05:27:54 pm

that connie manuvers like an old biplane, drags it's tail and looks like it's being lead along by the nose. I hate the way it seems to manuver.

Looks like the COG is off when the exported it (loks to be in the back portion of the saucer), besides that looks good to me, and seems to be more fluid in controls, much better than BC IMHO

Starforce2 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 16, 2006, 05:37:48 pm »

Lets hope thats all it is and the devs will figure out how to export properly before the game is released.

Antivyrus · « **Reply #9 on:** May 16, 2006, 09:41:21 pm »

Quote from: ModelsPlease on May 16, 2006, 01:57:18 pm

Basically in that ballpark. If I'm not mistaken.....this one has a spoiler on it

Looks like a precurcer to the Yamato class. and there is a weapons pod on that "spoiler"

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #10 on:** May 16, 2006, 11:11:09 pm »

Quote from: Antivyrus on May 16, 2006, 09:41:21 pm

Quote from: ModelsPlease on May 16, 2006, 01:57:18 pm
Basically in that ballpark. If I'm not mistaken.....this one has a spoiler on it

Looks like a precurcer to the Yamato class. and there is a weapons pod on that "spoiler"

Hmmm looks like a ship for you

o king of the Yamato.

GotAFarmYet? · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2006, 01:40:14 am »

I just hope they give Atra, P81, and MoonRaker credit for the parts of the ships they are using.

I look at that pic and see someone elses work.

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2006, 02:37:53 am »

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There are more than 60 vessels in the game, and we're told that some of the most dedicated and capable Star Trek ship modelers contributed to the game, including Rick Knox, who designed some of the most photo-realistic mods for Star Trek: Bridge Commander.

It looks like they have, at least with P81/Rick Knox here, and because of that I believe the creators would give credit to anyone else for the work they made that are used in the game (or created for it, either way).

Terradyhne · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2006, 03:27:56 am »

seems that we have soon one more game with a good idea but with uberugly ship designs like this in the pic and on other pics you could see that some ships have superior bumpmaped detail (NX-era sh** ships) and the most TMP have only some bumpmaped detail

Making a game spaning all eras of Trek should even not include the NX pseudo pre TOS for me because it lags the true spirit of Star Trek and this even show the NX-era ship designs and episodes

intermech · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2006, 06:57:54 am »

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I just hope they give Atra, P81, and MoonRaker credit for the parts of the ships they are using.

I read somewhere yesterday that P81 was one of the key modellers for the game.

Tus-XC · « **Reply #15 on:** May 17, 2006, 09:18:59 am »

Quote from: Terradyhne on May 17, 2006, 03:27:56 am

seems that we have soon one more game with a good idea but with uberugly ship designs like this in the pic and on other pics you could see that some ships have superior bumpmaped detail and the most TMP have only some bumpmaped detail

If you look closely at the ships in 1-6 you'll notice they were realativly smooth outside of panels lines on the saucers and a few other areas. So to say the TMP ships are getting short end of the deal is a falacy based upon actual TMP designs.

Starforce2 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 17, 2006, 09:30:21 am »

Well, if it's modable it wont matter. This community can create better textures then activision or whoever it is anyways, bump, and spec maps are no exception.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #17 on:** May 17, 2006, 10:39:58 am »

I love this community, the game hasn't even been released yet and we're already planning to MOD the heck out of it

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Starforce2 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 17, 2006, 01:31:08 pm »

Why the hell not? lol

Adonis · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2006, 01:28:44 am »

Quote from: ModelsPlease on May 17, 2006, 10:39:58 am

I love this community, the game hasn't even been released yet and we're already planning to MOD the heck out of it .

Yep, they make the games, we mod the sh*t outta it

(TM)(R)(C)

Rat Boy · « **Reply #20 on:** May 19, 2006, 03:05:13 pm »

Some more on our man's contributions to Legacy:

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To ensure that the ships in the game were as authentic as possible, Rick Knox was brought in to oversee their design. One of the foremost experts on Star Trek ship design, Knox’s contributions helped convince Paramount that publisher Bethseda and Mad Doc should be given command of the Star Trek gaming franchise.

Feels weird to know that we all watched P81's career spring up right before our eyes over the past six years or so. Does anyone know if he did all the models in the game?

USS Mariner · « **Reply #21 on:** May 21, 2006, 04:27:28 pm »

Hey guys, do you remember when Rick was on these forums for a short time about two/three years ago, showing a relatively flat NX-era ship from a game that "probably" wouldn't see development?

It's in Legacy. They've been thinking of this for quite a while.

Rat Boy · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2006, 05:05:40 pm »

And if you check out this video, you'll see that P81's Sovereign was at least used in the E3 demo, the third version that I've seen so far in the various promo shots and the official trailer. I wonder if this means that the art assets are still in flux at this point.

Kana · « **Reply #23 on:** May 25, 2006, 01:41:25 pm »

Speaking of Legacy...(back on topic)

Can anyone tell me if they know anything about this ship, or is it really brand new....

http://startrek.bethsoft.com/images/art/legacypcscreens/lepc_18S.jpg

http://startrek.bethsoft.com/images/art/legacypcscreens/lepc_08B.jpg

http://startrek.bethsoft.com/images/art/legacypcscreens/lepc_05B.jpg

http://startrek.bethsoft.com/images/art/legacyxboxscreens/lexbox_18B.jpg

AncientAngel · « **Reply #24 on:** May 25, 2006, 04:25:23 pm »

FYI guys, Lat time I talked to Rick/P81 about a week ago. He was the one that Got the Ball Rolling for this project. I highly doubt that it was an easy sell to get SOE on-board since the sad state Trek has been left in here as of lately. Most of the ships that you do see are Ricks, as we all know Rick did a ton of them back in the Day of SFC1 & 2. So he had a nice Library to pull from to get those guys to get a feal for what the look of the game was aiming for. Ods are most of what you see are stock models. New ones may or may not be in the works depending on how much resources SOE wants to throw at this project.

Rat Boy · « **Reply #25 on:** May 25, 2006, 04:35:25 pm »

SOE is not involved, AA. Mad Doc Software is developing while Bethesda is publishing.

AncientAngel · « **Reply #26 on:** May 26, 2006, 06:35:37 am »

hmm, Rick works for SOE thou. Hmm something isn't jive'ing right.

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