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NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« on: May 13, 2006, 03:49:35 pm »
Hi, guys:

Sorry to not have been on much yesterday or today.  A few family issues are keeping me wrapped up right.   It's nothing big, just requires some time.  Here are how things stand:

1) the VC's for yesterday were collected at the right time.  I grabbed the DB, and stuck it in a safe place.  There is no danger of any lost points.

2) I just took a read on the Pirate Kill's thread.   Good Work!    AAArrrrrr!!!!  I'll get all the points added and deleted to the relevant accounts while the server is down for cartel combinations on Monday, if that's OK with everyone.  I discoverd a bug in my editing tool that doesn't update player prestige properly.    It's easy to fix, I just have to take the time do it.  So from now on I'll update pp accounts in a more "real time" manner.


Thanks for playing, and I hope you are having fun!

-Herr Burt

« Last Edit: May 16, 2006, 03:09:27 am by Herr Burt »
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Re: News from the Admin
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2006, 03:54:56 pm »
ABSOLUTELY, and +1 for all your good work.

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Re: News from the Admin
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2006, 07:28:45 am »
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Re: NEW !!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 03:09:12 am »
The First Folding is (mostly) done.

The Cartels folded as follows:


Prime just edged out BeastRaiders for first place, mostly based upon the strength of their PvP.  I'll get full details up tomorrow.  Order Finished:

1)Prime
2)BestRaiders
3)Wyldeheart
4)Camboro
5)Korgath
6)The Syndicate
7)Tiger Heart
8)Orion



Orion becomes Part of Prime
TigerHeart Becomes part of the BeastRaiders
Syndicate becomes part of Wyldeheart
Korgath becomes part of Camboro



WHAT HAS BEEN DONE:

Bounties have been paid.

The accounts have become part of their new cartels.   Your name will still show as the original color in the list on the right, but if you right click your name it will appear as the new cartel, and you will affect DV's as the new cartel.

The map has been alterred.   Ther are four hexs, in the corners, for the Old Cartels.   DO NOT TAKE THEM!   You'll screw up the server if you do.

You still have your old ships.

WHAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE
I should alter the shiplist so that the old cartel ships start appearing in the new cartel shipyard, but it's 4AM and I'm tired.  Since all the cartels shifted "down" in the list, your old ships will still work.

Tomorrow evening, during the nightly clean, I'll get a new shiplist up.  The old cartel ships will then become a part of the new cartel lists.

Please let me know of any problems.   This was a lot of editing.  It seems to be all working, but you never know.

Naturally, I have backup copies of everything.

-Herr Burt
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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2006, 03:24:16 am »
God job Herr Burt! That's a lot of work! 

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The accounts have become part of their new cartels.   Your name will still show as the original color in the list on the right, but if you right click your name it will appear as the new cartel, and you will affect DV's as the new cartel.

The character's race is stored in two locations: CharacterRace and CharacterPoliticalControl, though not labelled as such in the flatfile, I had wondered which had what effects, I wonder which it was you edited? edit: And which of them affects shiplist purchasing and which the the map? Or does one affect both?

I'll update the NSIS installer for those who need it with the new list once you done it.

The bad news: we BeastRaiders have to put up with the likes of Hexx now!  :D
« Last Edit: May 16, 2006, 04:05:22 am by Bonk »

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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2006, 03:25:52 am »
The good news, PFS and Monsters  ;D

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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2006, 06:55:04 am »
God job Herr Burt! That's a lot of work! 

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The accounts have become part of their new cartels.   Your name will still show as the original color in the list on the right, but if you right click your name it will appear as the new cartel, and you will affect DV's as the new cartel.

The character's race is stored in two locations: CharacterRace and CharacterPoliticalControl, though not labelled as such in the flatfile, I had wondered which had what effects, I wonder which it was you edited? edit: And which of them affects shiplist purchasing and which the the map? Or does one affect both?

I'll update the NSIS installer for those who need it with the new list once you done it.

The bad news: we BeastRaiders have to put up with the likes of Hexx now!  :D

In my past experience, one seems to affect what race you are in so far as politics and ship purchasing goes, and the other controls the color of all your map UI's.

I hope I'm right.  I thought it would be neat to leave in the old UI's.

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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2006, 09:45:51 am »
Not that I've *ever* been one to complain..
but putting aside such discrepancies as the Tigerheart getting shuffled under the "Beastriders" moniker
(I mean.. have you seen their clubhouse? I swear Chuut's gotta have the bigest collection of Hamsters I've ever seen. and they don't look happy)

Uhmm where was I .. complained, whined, made a tasteless remark and..oh Yes!

I can't seem to buy a new ship
I can repair the old one, but so far every base I've stopped on has had nothing at all for sale
in the "legitimate traders yard" if you know what I mean.
Nothing
Not even one of those slaver things (not that I'd ever partake in such a crude venture of course but)

I've been flying the same ship for like 3 days!
Now I realize it's all fun and games, but someone's gonna lose an eye if I can't buy a new ship.
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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2006, 10:02:52 am »
Uhmm where was I .. complained, whined, made a tasteless remark and..oh Yes!

I can't seem to buy a new ship
I can repair the old one, but so far every base I've stopped on has had nothing at all for sale
in the "legitimate traders yard" if you know what I mean.
Nothing
Not even one of those slaver things (not that I'd ever partake in such a crude venture of course but)

I've been flying the same ship for like 3 days!
Now I realize it's all fun and games, but someone's gonna lose an eye if I can't buy a new ship.


Do you mean you've never been able to buy a new ship, or just not since the big DB edit yesterday?

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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2006, 10:06:11 am »
Uhmm where was I .. complained, whined, made a tasteless remark and..oh Yes!

I can't seem to buy a new ship
I can repair the old one, but so far every base I've stopped on has had nothing at all for sale
in the "legitimate traders yard" if you know what I mean.
Nothing
Not even one of those slaver things (not that I'd ever partake in such a crude venture of course but)

I've been flying the same ship for like 3 days!
Now I realize it's all fun and games, but someone's gonna lose an eye if I can't buy a new ship.


Do you mean you've never been able to buy a new ship, or just not since the big DB edit yesterday?

-Herr Burt

Since the DB edit.

There's no ships in the yards.
I'm assuming it's some "feature" you've put in where I have to die , but thought I'd whine about it a bit first.
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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2006, 10:50:48 am »
Uhmm where was I .. complained, whined, made a tasteless remark and..oh Yes!

I can't seem to buy a new ship
I can repair the old one, but so far every base I've stopped on has had nothing at all for sale
in the "legitimate traders yard" if you know what I mean.
Nothing
Not even one of those slaver things (not that I'd ever partake in such a crude venture of course but)

I've been flying the same ship for like 3 days!
Now I realize it's all fun and games, but someone's gonna lose an eye if I can't buy a new ship.


Do you mean you've never been able to buy a new ship, or just not since the big DB edit yesterday?

-Herr Burt

Since the DB edit.

There's no ships in the yards.
I'm assuming it's some "feature" you've put in where I have to die , but thought I'd whine about it a bit first.

No, not an intentional act on my part.    The yards I checked this morning were all filling just fine, and your's should be too.  (I'm assuming you checked at least ten minutes after the server started?  The DB clean does flush the shipyards, and it takes the economy ten minutes to crank out a new batch.)

I may have messed up your account.   Check again, and if the shipyards are still empty for you then feel free to create a second account to play with.  I'll check into the problem, and then combine the profit from both accounts into your original when I get the error fixed.

-Herr Burt
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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2006, 11:33:22 am »
Not that I've *ever* been one to complain..
but putting aside such discrepancies as the Tigerheart getting shuffled under the "Beastriders" moniker
(I mean.. have you seen their clubhouse? I swear Chuut's gotta have the bigest collection of Hamsters I've ever seen. and they don't look happy)


Those are Lyran POWs but I guess its an easy mistake to make  ;)

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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2006, 11:56:24 am »
Ok, so do we need a new download for all this now?
Or was it just server-side adjusments?
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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2006, 12:03:19 pm »
Ok, so do we need a new download for all this now?
Or was it just server-side adjusments?

WHAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE
I should alter the shiplist so that the old cartel ships start appearing in the new cartel shipyard, but it's 4AM and I'm tired.  Since all the cartels shifted "down" in the list, your old ships will still work.

Tomorrow evening, during the nightly clean, I'll get a new shiplist up.  The old cartel ships will then become a part of the new cartel lists.

Klingon reading comprehension...  ::) Maybe some randomly interspersed grunts would have helped...  ;D

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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2006, 12:07:58 pm »
Just got home, just was hoping for a quick answer without having to read through 50 posts... :P
Call me lazy, I guess...
Thanks for the quick reply, tho.  ;)
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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2006, 01:36:06 pm »
what will happen to cartel joinees using old ships?
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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2006, 02:23:17 pm »
when i start a mission,it says i maybe attempting a cheat due to mod in shiplist(words to that effect)

is this just until the new shiplist comes out?

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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2006, 05:11:45 pm »
when i start a mission,it says i maybe attempting a cheat due to mod in shiplist(words to that effect)

is this just until the new shiplist comes out?

Or till you stop Cheating  ;)

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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2006, 08:07:36 pm »
God job Herr Burt! That's a lot of work! 

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The accounts have become part of their new cartels.   Your name will still show as the original color in the list on the right, but if you right click your name it will appear as the new cartel, and you will affect DV's as the new cartel.

The character's race is stored in two locations: CharacterRace and CharacterPoliticalControl, though not labelled as such in the flatfile, I had wondered which had what effects, I wonder which it was you edited? edit: And which of them affects shiplist purchasing and which the the map? Or does one affect both?

I'll update the NSIS installer for those who need it with the new list once you done it.

The bad news: we BeastRaiders have to put up with the likes of Hexx now!  :D

In my past experience, one seems to affect what race you are in so far as politics and ship purchasing goes, and the other controls the color of all your map UI's.

I hope I'm right.  I thought it would be neat to leave in the old UI's.

-Herr Burt

I just did a search of the kit code now for "CharacterRace" (120 occurences) and "CharacterPoliticalControl" (128 occurences)...

Looking over what is covered...

CharacterRace is involved in:
- Character creation (Human and AI)
- Mission Matching
- Economic Status Checks
- Logoff
- Ship Auction info
- Battle reporting
- Census
- Client panels (chat, ship, mission...)

CharacterPoliticalControl is involved in:
- Character creation (Human and AI)
- Mission Matching (teams, mission lists...)
- Character kills (spawing at nearest base)
- Start location
- Prestige awards
- AI movement
- Battle reporting
- Census
- Client panels (map, help, mission, ship, supply...)

They are both defined as the same custom data type in the header files.

Quite a lovely mix. Kinda hard to tell why only one variable is not used.  :huh:

edit: trading lightly along the edge of my NDA here... ;)
« Last Edit: May 16, 2006, 08:18:11 pm by Bonk »

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Re: NEW!!!!! News from the Admin
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2006, 03:37:35 pm »

Just to let you all know:

I will be occupied tonight and thus the DB editing will be delayed.  At the moment, I can't say how long it will be delayed.   So feel free to keep playing right through midnigt if you wish.

I will still make a copy of the DB at the appropriate time for VC counting, as I always do.  There is no chance of anyone missing out on any points.

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