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Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« on: May 08, 2006, 07:18:24 pm »
Hey, sorry guys.   A pair of idiots decided to open fire on a police station today, and hit three officers.   No, I'm not kidding.  Apparently 1 perp was killed in the return fire, and the other is still loose.

In any event, traffic was *shut down*.   I was very late getting home.

I'll reboot everything to refresh my LAN, then I'll get the corrected download up and kick off the server.   Won't take long; hopefully no more than 10 to 15 minutes.   Then we all keep our fingers crossed that it plays as stably for you tonight as it was for me early this morning.

Thanks for your patience, guys

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« Last Edit: May 08, 2006, 07:47:25 pm by Herr Burt »
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Re: Economic War: COMING RIGHT UP!!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2006, 07:20:27 pm »
we are just glad you are home safe

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Re: Economic War: COMING RIGHT UP!!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2006, 07:31:59 pm »
Yeah, what he said.  You've got to take care of yourself. 

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2006, 07:48:40 pm »

It's live, guys.   Now, if God is good, it will hold stable this time.

Go download the new install!

ftp://www.fourpower.com/pub/EWInstall2.zip

And keep your fingers crossed!

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2006, 08:04:04 pm »

Thanks for the kind thoughts, Demon and Alpha.  I wasn't really in any real danger, as the actuall shooting happened before I left my office.   I just had to deal with the rush hour backup that arose from closing off all the streets as the police tried to find the second guy.

I've no idea what set these guys off to attack a police station.  I'll have to check into the news and see if they caught the second guy yet.  While I was driving home the details of what reporters were saying had happened kept changing.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2006, 08:08:50 pm »
bad crc fighter and shiplist. Sigh.
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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2006, 08:16:59 pm »
bad crc fighter and shiplist. Sigh.

Make sure you've got the latest download.   Several people are on and running missions.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2006, 08:25:39 pm »
yep I grabbed the 8:55pm one

see ya tomorrow me thinks
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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2006, 08:27:17 pm »
yep I grabbed the 8:55pm one

see ya tomorrow me thinks

Make sure you uninstall the old EW before you reinstall the new version.

There is a check in the bat file that won't install if you've already got EW on your system.   That keeps you from overwriting the backup files of what you had before installing.

If you don't uninstall the old one, the new one won't go in.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2006, 08:39:49 pm »
followed directions, the first uninstall and reinstallation of the earlier update seemed fine, for now I am just starting from scratch clean, rather than mess around trying to find where I blew it.
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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2006, 08:45:46 pm »
followed directions, the first uninstall and reinstallation of the earlier update seemed fine, for now I am just starting from scratch clean, rather than mess around trying to find where I blew it.

After you've got your fresh start ready, make sure you look in your Assets/Spec folder and remove any file with the prefix EWSAFE.  These are the markers that the installer looks for.

Since they aren't standard Taldren files, the SFCOP uninstaller probably won't get rid of them.  (The EW uninstaller will)

In fact, you might want to go into your Assets/Sped folder and see if they are there before you uninstall SFCOP.   (If you haven't already.)

Also, be sure you use the Extract button in the winzip GUI if you are using WINZIP.   Do not drag and drop the contents of the zip file.   It is important that the subdirectories in PirateMaker are in the proper place.

Let me know how this goes.   Again, thanks for trying the server.    I hope you don't have any more trouble.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2006, 08:58:41 pm »
Where's the priginal instructions? I have been extraction to op as I got it right for sunday night, but mayne I'm missing something in what I'm doing now?
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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2006, 09:02:38 pm »
found it and I'm still stumped
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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2006, 09:14:51 pm »
Where's the priginal instructions? I have been extraction to op as I got it right for sunday night, but mayne I'm missing something in what I'm doing now?


Here are the instructions for the new version, if you had the old version installed:
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366854.msg1122707599.html#msg1122707599

And here are the orginal instructions:
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366838.msg1122707405.html#msg1122707405

make sure the zip file you are getting is EWInstall2.zip, and not EWInstall.zip.

Then, make sure you are unzipping them into X:/Program Files/Taldren Software Inc/Starfleet Command Orion Pirates.  This should put the PirateMaker folder into your Starfleet Command Orion Pirates folder.   Inside the PirateMaker folder are all the files you need.

If worse comes to worst, you can always do it manually. 

1) Open the PirateMaker directory and copy the EW_shiplist.txt and EW_ftrlist.txt files.  Paste them into SFCOP's Assets/Spec and into MetaAssets.  Then rename them to replace the shiplist and ftrlist files that are already there.  (Back up the old ones in both folders if you want to keep them.)

2) Copy the EW_model.siz file and put it into your games Assets/Models folder.  Rename it to "model.siz"  (Backup the old one if you want to keep it.)

3) Copy all of the EW_Met_HB* script files and put them into your games Assets/Scripts folder.  Remove the "EW_" from the front of their names.

4) Make a folder called EconModels in your main SFCOP folder and put all the model folders into it.

That should not be neccesary, but if you have to do it that should get you redy to play.

Save backups of anything you want to go back to if you do it this way.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2006, 09:25:45 pm »
got it this time around.
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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2006, 09:30:38 pm »
Pssst... the server description still says something to the effect of "still under repairs - sorry for the delay". In case you hadn't noticed. It might be possible to edit it to something else that is the same length in hex with the first db clean? Not critical though of course, just thought I'd pass that along.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2006, 09:33:45 pm »
Pssst... the server description still says something to the effect of "still under repairs - sorry for the delay". In case you hadn't noticed. It might be possible to edit it to something else that is the same length in hex with the first db clean? Not critical though of course, just thought I'd pass that along.

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It's always the little things.

I'll see if I can change this at the first DB clean.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2006, 09:49:41 pm »
Are we using total-war missions? Or are the settings such that they'll account for no alliances in mission results? (I haven't actually run a mission yet... lemme go try a few and see, lol)

EDIT: scratch that question, I just found our allied empire: BeastRaiders + Hydrans ... I knew that... :smackhead: I remember seeing the standard empire-cartel alliances in the info thread too... sorry for the dumb question.  :-[
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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2006, 10:11:16 pm »
Sumpin else... have you customised the chat channels? It seems we can't "/join BeastRaiders" or other cartels, gettting a no permission to join group error. (I've never gotten custom chat channel names to work myself) I suspect gamespy may have denied /join permissions now in addition to treating the server as a malicious bot?

Anyway I reccomend using our irc server as gamepsy will periodically drop the server altogether... I tried to get them to address it a few years back, but after a bit of correspondence it seemed they just ignored the issue.

The info for our irc server can be found here:
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163360158.0.html

Its a little slower to connect (delays initial map load a bit) but will not randomly kick the server.



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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2006, 10:37:11 pm »

I haven't created any modifed chat channels.   From the log file, the standard channels were created as follows:

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00:11:13 Info: Created chat channel: #Federation@EcoWar
00:11:14 Info: Created chat channel: #Klingon@EcoWar
00:11:14 Info: Created chat channel: #Romulan@EcoWar
00:11:15 Info: Created chat channel: #Lyran@EcoWar
00:11:16 Info: Created chat channel: #Hydran@EcoWar
00:11:17 Info: Created chat channel: #Gorn@EcoWar
00:11:18 Info: Created chat channel: #ISC@EcoWar
00:11:19 Info: Created chat channel: #Mirak@EcoWar
00:11:19 Info: Created chat channel: #Orion@EcoWar
00:11:20 Info: Created chat channel: #Korgath@EcoWar
00:11:21 Info: Created chat channel: #Camboro@EcoWar
00:11:21 Info: Created chat channel: #Prime@EcoWar
00:11:27 Info: Created chat channel: #TigerHeart@EcoWar
00:11:28 Info: Created chat channel: #BeastRaiders@EcoWar
00:11:28 Info: Created chat channel: #Syndicate@EcoWar
00:11:29 Info: Created chat channel: #Wyldefire@EcoWar
00:11:30 Info: Created chat channel: #SystemBroadcast
00:11:31 Info: Created chat channel: #ServerBroadcast@EcoWar
00:11:33 Info: Created chat channel: #General@EcoWar

If your spelling is right, I'm not sure what to suggest.  As you say, the chat server is rather flakey at times.   It may work fine after the next restart.  I'll give your link a look when I get a chance, and if I can figure it out I may give that try.

As to the allies in mission, let me know how it works out for you.   You should not have any problems getting allies in AI misisons, or at least I haven't yet.  It is possible that there may be some non-DV shifts in cases with three players from differing cartels, but given the backdrop of the campaign that's not an altogether bad thing.  The loser will have to go elsewhere for a bit, and you can always blast your wingman if he's causing you irritation.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2006, 10:58:14 pm »
Hey, sorry guys.   A pair of idiots decided to open fire on a police station today, and hit three officers.   No, I'm not kidding.  Apparently 1 perp was killed in the return fire, and the other is still loose.

In any event, traffic was *shut down*.   I was very late getting home.

I'll reboot everything to refresh my LAN, then I'll get the corrected download up and kick off the server.   Won't take long; hopefully no more than 10 to 15 minutes.   Then we all keep our fingers crossed that it plays as stably for you tonight as it was for me early this morning.

Thanks for your patience, guys

-Herr Burt


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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2006, 11:11:22 pm »
Those default chat channels should work. Looks like gamespy is giving us the bums rush again.

I'll give your link a look when I get a chance, and if I can figure it out I may give that try.

Its easy, just edit \Assets\ServerProfiles\chat.gf and replace the chat server and port with the one in the thread I linked. (I don't want to post the server and port in a public forum)

You're logging to file on a live server!?!  :o  I don't even log to the console once all the testing is complete, though I run the MySQL debug servers with logging up the yingyang.

I just ran a mission against a Rom freighter with a drogue, two cargo pods and a hostage. I killed the hostage and ran away (didn't occur to me and try and capture him, lol). I got an astounding victory. Should that have happened?

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2006, 06:33:11 am »
I vaguely recall something about there being issues with lamespy chat and our servers.

Seems that General, Broadcast, the 8 alliances and orionorion are the only accessable chat channels, IIRC.  The other 7 cartels get the shaft.

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Re: Economic War: IT'S LIVE!!!!
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2006, 09:10:33 am »
Ah yes, a max channels created by a single client limit is in effect there, you are correct, I recall now this was one of the issues I informed them of that they chose to ignore.