Topic: Tom Cruise, the most exciting and successful star in the world?

[Jack Morris]

Yeah right. I caight this on Yahoo yesterday, and low and behold it is on the official site as well. I highly suspect all the hype about him is because he produced the film and therefore could say he was the best star in the world, hahahahaha, what a joke.

http://www.missionimpossible.com/

Click about, then the story.

Tom Cruise, the most exciting and successful star in the world, returns to one of his signature roles, Secret Agent Ethan Hunt, in "Mission: Impossible III."

Give me a break, he's a scientology looney, albeit a rich one. 

[Just plain old Punisher]

Didn't some people hire a plane with a banner behind it to circle the Hollywood MI:3 premere? The banner reads: HAIL ZENU! =)

[likkerpig]

Didn't some people hire a plane with a banner behind it to circle the Hollywood MI:3 premere? The banner reads: HAIL ZENU! =)

THAT'S XENU YOU HERETIC!

Co$ lawyers will contact you shortly with the paperwork of our libel lawsuit against you.
Have a "clear" day!

[Just plain old Punisher]

You know, I think I'm going to kill all the scientologists in the next purge.
At first, I found the silly caperings of scientologists amusing -- much like a favored court jester. However, after they started to expect the world to take their religion seriously, they have thus found their way onto the extermination list.

Maybe I'll contract this Xenu character, he sounds rather ruthless and cunning.

[Father Ted]

The weekend box office take for MI-3 offers a different outlook for old Tom than "most yada, yada, yada...".

He's approaching the Michael Jackson area of too weird to be palatable to people. Once a big star enters the Twighlight Zone of freakishness, his appeal, and therefore his ability to make $ for his studio or label, bears less on its return than it used to. Picking a fight with Brooke Shields on taking anti-depressants after giving birth, jumping up and down on Oprah's couch, his own sonogram machine at home, and talking about eating the baby's, or Katie's(I don't know, I'm not a doctor) placenta  , and just his rantings about Scientology, definitely qualify Cruise as heading at warp speed into the Michael Jackson Zone.

[Bartok]

The weekend box office take for MI-3 offers a different outlook for old Tom than "most yada, yada, yada...".

He's approaching the Michael Jackson area of too weird to be palatable to people. Once a big star enters the Twighlight Zone of freakishness, his appeal, and therefore his ability to make $ for his studio or label, bears less on its return than it used to. Picking a fight with Brooke Shields on taking anti-depressants after giving birth, jumping up and down on Oprah's couch, his own sonogram machine at home, and talking about eating the baby's, or Katie's(I don't know, I'm not a doctor) placenta  , and just his rantings about Scientology, definitely qualify Cruise as heading at warp speed into the Michael Jackson Zone.

I completely agree.  Personally, while I found his portrayal of LeStadt in Interview with a Vampire to be surprisingly good - he's a mediocre actor for the most part - IMHO.  I agree that he is a freak, if he was onboard my ship I'd "space" him   

The whole Scientology thing is so very very out there.  It's eccentric nature isn't what bothers me most about it though, if a faith of any kind promotes love and compassion in this world I'm all for it.  It's the fact that Scientologists (think Isaac Hayes) will gladly deride other religions but can't handle it when they're on the receiving end.  ANY reliigion that purports to be "the only" means to salvation/happiness displays a narcissism which IMHO the divine would find .... distasteful...

..... Did he really talk about eating the afterbirth?? 

[Dracho]

And he willingly gave up having sex with Nichole Kiddman!  The man's a lunatic.

[Father Ted]

Google has a ton of references to it. I don't know if he was joking or not, but as loony as he's gone in the last couple of years, I wouldn't put it past him...

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GSPA,GSPA:2005-45,GSPA:en&q=tom+cruise%2C+placenta

BTW: I don't consider Scientology to be a religion like Judaism, or Christianity. I'd say it's more of a cult thing with the whole Xenu thing.

[GE-Raven]

And he willingly gave up having sex with Nichole Kiddman!  The man's a lunatic.

True dat....

However I have a soft space in my heart... Last Samurai was excellent.  Although I only give him about 30% of the credit for that!

GE-Raven

[Dracho]

His best movie, IMHO, was opposite Nichole Kiddman in Far & Away.  Her best role, however, was in Moulin Rouge.

[Father Ted]

The last decent movie he made, IMO, was "A Few Good Men". But Cruise is the ultimate formula actor, going all the way back to "Top Gun" through "Days of Thunder", etc., etc., he plays the hotshot with a chip on his shoulder who battles his own personal demons, then seduces the girl, struggles with a setback, then bounces back to be Mighty Mouse(he is vertically challenged), singing "Here I am to save the day!!!!" as women swoon and grown men weep at such overwhelming masculinity.... 

[GE-Raven]

His best movie, IMHO, was opposite Nichole Kiddman in Far & Away.  Her best role, however, was in Moulin Rouge.

um... Huh...

You are thinking Ewen McGregor?

Tom isn't in Moulin Rouge.  Nicole is...

GE-Raven

[GE-Raven]

The last decent movie he made, IMO, was "A Few Good Men". But Cruise is the ultimate formula actor, going all the way back to "Top Gun" through "Days of Thunder", "Navy SEALS", etc., etc., he plays the hotshot with a chip on his shoulder who battles his own personal demons, then seduces the girl, struggles with a setback, then bounces back to be Mighty Mouse(he is vertically challenged), singing "Here I am to save the day!!!!" as women swoon and grown men weep at such overwhelming masculinity.... 

Watch Last Samurai....

[Dracho]

His best movie, IMHO, was opposite Nichole Kiddman in Far & Away.  Her best role, however, was in Moulin Rouge.

um... Huh...

You are thinking Ewen McGregor?

Tom isn't in Moulin Rouge.  Nicole is...

GE-Raven

That's what I wrote.. re-read it   His best was Far & Away Opposite her, while her best was Moulin Rouge.. without him.


Last samurai.. I just didn't buy the US Cavalryman learns enough swordplay overnight to fight a lifelong samurai..They'd have treated him like a melon at a Ginsu party.

[GE-Raven]

That's what I wrote.. re-read it   His best was Far & Away Opposite her, while her best was Moulin Rouge.. without him.


Last samurai.. I just didn't buy the US Cavalryman learns enough swordplay overnight to fight a lifelong samurai..They'd have treated him like a melon at a Ginsu party.

My bad...

Well couple of facts... Cavalry had the most sword training of any U.S. Soldier, and it is true that sword play on horseback requires a VERY good sense of balance.  I also recall a story about an Olympic Fencer that medalled after "picking up" the sport AFTER seeing it at the last previous olympics.  Much the same way that you will find NFL Players that didn't play in College (TEs that were Basketball players spring to mind).  Sometimes someone is just naturally gifted enough to learn what might take someone else years. 

So while it does stretch the imagination, it is not outright impossible.  I also seem to remember that he was "ready" when he managed a draw.  :-)  Finally his biggest contribution was not as a swordsman, but in knowing and understanding modern warfare.

GE-Raven

[Father Ted]

My problem with Last Samurai wasn't so much the swordplay, but the fact that he learned fluent Japanese in about a year, or less(?). As boring as "Dances With Wolves" was, they didn't gloss over the fact that it took Costner's character forever to learn how to speak 'native'. The rest of my problem with "The Last Samurai" was the 19th Century version of the EVIL American military-industrial complex exporting warfare to shiny, happy people holding hands. Bad American Military-Industrial Complex! Bad, bad, bad!!!!

[GE-Raven]

My problem with Last Samurai wasn't so much the swordplay, but the fact that he learned fluent Japanese in about a year, or less(?). As boring as "Dances With Wolves" was, they didn't gloss over the fact that it took Costner's character forever to learn how to speak 'native'. The rest of my problem with "The Last Samurai" was the 19th Century version of the EVIL American military-industrial complex exporting warfare to shiny, happy people holding hands. Bad American Military-Industrial Complex! Bad, bad, bad!!!!

You know that at least that portion of it was true.  We did export military weapons (we wanted to off load a lot of stuff after the Civil War and then the smaller military after the "taming" of the west. 

However, I will have to watch it again, but I thought It was pretty obvious that Cruise's character was there a long period of time (Long enough to drill a western army from the japanese regulars).  Even then I only saw rudimentary understanding and speaking of the language.  Much like dances with wolves... he could understand it well, but speaking it was different.

GE-Raven

[Dracho]

Oh, admit it.. you just liked all the Asian Chics.    Clark has gotten to you