Topic: Economic War: New Rule!!!!!!!

[Herr Burt]

I hesitate to bring this up, because I hate to let more people know of it.   However, we've got a good community here and I trust you all to play fair even after I tell you of a bug that you may not have discovered on your own.

I have absolutely no idea why, and no idea how to stop it.  But I have reports from players that they are able to adjust the game speed.  It must be a cartel layer bug.  I never caught this in playtest because it never even occured to me that such a thing would be possible.

So, new rule:

Do NOT, EVER, under any circumstances, change the speed of the game.   Not against humans, and most especially not against AI.  This will be considered an extreme cheat.  I don't have to tell you how extreme a cheat it is to jack up the speed against AI when others are in PvP missions, or how upset your human opponent would be if you slowed the speed down to help you deal with his seeking weapons.

Adjusting the speed against a human opponent is easily spotted and will earn you a penalty for your side, or perhaps even a ban.  Adjusting the speed against AI is harder to spot (unless it's in the server log; I'll check) and I must rely upon your sense of honor and fair play to keep you from doing it.  I'm OK with that, as I feel we have a good group we can trust here.

If I figure out how to turn it off, I will.

-Herr Burt

[Bonk]

Most interesting. I wonder if this is the case on The Forge too?

[Hexx]

and I must rely upon your sense of honor and fair play



-Herr Burt

 


Seriously- there is a way to fix it, however I don't know what it is.
Ages (and I mean ages ) ago there was a server that used pirates and had the problem.
(Pirates also got to use small Taldren X ships Empires didn't-if anyone can remember the server)
I think only the Feds could do it though
And I've flown pirates since without the ability, so it's in there somewhere.

(Ahh I do so love to be helpful)

[Hexx]

Most interesting. I wonder if this is the case on The Forge too?

Am I the only player who jumps on and immediately searches for how many ways I can cheat?

[[KBF]MuadDib]

Most interesting. I wonder if this is the case on The Forge too?

Am I the only player who jumps on and immediately searches for how many ways I can cheat?

there is no honor in cheating

[Herr Burt]

Am I the only player who jumps on and immediately searches for how many ways I can cheat?

there is no honor in cheating

<Ahem>   Honor?  You are forgetting to which player you are speaking.

Just Kidding!!

I have to give thanks to Hexx for immediately PM'ing me and telling me about this bug as soon as the server began.  (Almost right after his first mission.   Hmmmmmmm....    )  A lesser man would have exploited the bug all night, and then told me in the morning when he starting feeling guilty.  Hexx was clean and up front about it, and I'll give him a +1 karma.   

-Herr Burt

[Herr Burt]

and I must rely upon your sense of honor and fair play



-Herr Burt

 


Seriously- there is a way to fix it, however I don't know what it is.
Ages (and I mean ages ) ago there was a server that used pirates and had the problem.
(Pirates also got to use small Taldren X ships Empires didn't-if anyone can remember the server)
I think only the Feds could do it though
And I've flown pirates since without the ability, so it's in there somewhere.

(Ahh I do so love to be helpful)

Well, I found this link, which simply says the problem was "fixed" by the last patch.  I guess maybe they fixed it for Empires only.
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,16364801.msg1122279357.html#msg1122279357

I'm not sure if I remember the server you are talking about or not.   I seem to have vague memories of a campaign where only Feds were able to change the speed.   I don't remember if that one included pirates or not.

If anyone here was on that server Hexx is remember and knows how to fix the problem, I'd really appreciate the answer if you remember it.

-Herr Burt

[Bonk]

I am unable to change the gamespeed with the slider (though I can move it) or the default keyboard commands.

Are those reporting this actually seeing the
"Gamespeed adjusted by +1"
"Gamespeed is now 9"
messages in the main display? Or are they just moving the slider and not actually affecting gamespeed?

[Herr Burt]

I am unable to change the gamespeed with the slider (though I can move it) or the default keyboard commands.

Are those reporting this actually seeing the
"Gamespeed adjusted by +1"
"Gamespeed is now 9"
messages in the main display? Or are they just moving the slider and not actually affecting gamespeed?

I just had the same experience.   I can move the slider and the display number changes, but the actual game speed does not.

Maybe this is a non-issue after all.  That would be great!

-S'Cipio

[Capt Jeff]

Feds are the same way in OP.  You can move the slider, but the speed doesn't actually change.  I believe it was fixed in the 2525 patch.  It was one of the major problems with OP when it came out (along with the D2 map not really working).

[Bonk]

Yes, this is the way it has been for ages in the D2, you can move the slider but the game speed does not actually change. (The keyboard commands for it not working on the D2 are your first clue, this is how it should be) Unfortunate the client panel was not updated to lock the slider when on the Dyna though.

The map was working as intended originally, empire mandatories depended on the cartel layer much as cartel mandatories depend on the empire layer now, players and admins just found that too confusing though, so the interaction was modified to work one-way from the cartel layer.

[762_XC]

MID SERVER RULE CHANGE !!!!! WTF !!!!!!!11!!!

[Herr Burt]

MID SERVER RULE CHANGE !!!!! WTF !!!!!!!11!!!

                         
Guilty, Your Honor!!  I trhow myself upon the mercy of this court.   (Do you take checks?)

-Herr Burt