Topic: After a week banning. let's pick up where I left off.

[Sirgod]

I have an idea:

Let put together a committee.  We'll call it...  the United Naggers (UN).

First:  We send inspectors to see if the FWs actually cuase problems by setting up a test server, and by using the scientific method test specific Firewalls (all users on the Dyna have the same brand, version and settings), and keep statistical records of any crashes or disconnects or whatever.

Then we Bushify the situation and make grandiose clames of thier harm and true evil intent with our new information.  We'll even get Sattilite photo's on the PCs actually disconnecting...

After that we'll sit for weeks arguing about how Firewalls have ignore our demands and sit while we discuss a chapter 7 (How to ban or other exercise some kind of punitive action).

We'll overthrow the Dynaverse, impose a new government, and wind up splitting the community into several peices!

Hmm, this all seems oddly familiar...

 

Do Dizzy, Myself and Ferrit, get to use Paint Ball guns?

Stephen

[Strat]

Do Dizzy, Myself and Ferrit, get to use Paint Ball guns?

Stephen

That or Nuculear Bombs!

[Sirgod]

Do Dizzy, Myself and Ferrit, get to use Paint Ball guns?

Stephen

That or Nuculear Bombs!

Game set Match!

Stephen

[Hexx]

Do Dizzy, Myself and Ferrit, get to use Paint Ball guns?

Stephen

That or Nuculear Bombs!

Game set Match!

Stephen

???
C'mon
Paintball is so much more fun, ya shoot the guy, he cries in pain and calls himself out, you don't hear him so you shoot him again, he starts cursing that your gun is running hot,
you claim it isn't,shoot him again to prove it, admit he might have a point, then have your finger slip and accidentaly shoot him again.
(True story)

Nuclear bombs are so...dulll.

[Dfly]

Perhaps decidedly late on this, but I am surprised that someone actually got banned for a week yet it took this long to see a warning come up for the oposite side.  Also surprised no one commented on this.  I have nothing against anyone for this, but just seemed strange is all.  I understand the "fear" of firewalls has hit an all-time high and they dont help the situation.  It does not mean that I would "tell" someone they "must" turn them off.  I am glad Dizzy reposted his opinion on it and I agree totally that anyone who knowingly(and they mostly know who there are) have connection issues are to stay off the front lines.

[Bonk]

Perhaps decidedly late on this, but I am surprised that someone actually got banned for a week yet it took this long to see a warning come up for the oposite side.  Also surprised no one commented on this.

Swallowing my considerable anger at this post...

Why has nobody commented on this? Because Dizzy never made a personal attack on anyone in the original thread.

Please read: Dynaverse.net Terms & Conditions

In particular:

The Dynaverse.Net website may contain bulletin boards, chat rooms, access to mailing lists or other message or communication facilities. The user agrees, when taking advantage of such facilities, not to do any of the following:

(a) defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal, moral, or human rights of others (such as rights of privacy and publicity);

If you check the original thread:
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366481.0.html

You will see that Lepton and Likkerpig were in clear violation of this policy, and received a one week ban according to our protocol, Dizzy was not violating any forum rules whatsoever in his post on the subject.

Likkerpig, sadly, has decided to leave us permanently because he did not agree with Dizzy's decree. He could have simply opted to not play on Dizzy's servers. Its too bad he'll miss out on Economy Wars and Storm Season Two. I'll miss our CubCarson and hope he'll reconsider.

I would ask that you rescind your implied accusation of administrative bias. Please be aware of all the facts before making such comments, thank you.

I understand the "fear" of firewalls has hit an all-time high and they dont help the situation.

There is no "fear" involved here, it is simple common sense and extensive experience speaking. Where the "fear" is involved is the irrational "fear" that the firewall producers foster in users to flog their products.

[Dfly]

I guess the part of my comments: "I have nothing against anyone for this, but just seemed strange is all" have no influence on when you only cover part of my posting.

I am sorry you feel this is an attack as it was not really meant to be, but just a comment not intending to target anyone in particular.  As per Likkerpig, I fully understand his frustation with comments by Dizzy but hope he does come back too.  Dizzy has a way of getting under people's skin with some of his comments.  I do hope you dont see this as an attack on him too. Actually I had not realized Lepton and Likkerpig had been banned.

Pehaps I did not word the "fear" part properly.  Actually I know I did not.  You are correct in telling that it is the "People" who write and sell these programs that instill the "fear" of the internet user.

[Dfly]

Part of my bad reasoning has to do with my being at home SICK this week.  My mind is not fully functional

[Bonk]

I guess the part of my comments: "I have nothing against anyone for this, but just seemed strange is all" have no influence on when you only cover part of my posting.

I saw that and understood. But that is not how it read as that qualifier appears later in the post. I just felt obliged to explain why it was not strange at all.

[Dfly]

Next time I will make sure the qualifier appear first, even if it does not make much sense

[Sirgod]

Perhaps decidedly late on this, but I am surprised that someone actually got banned for a week yet it took this long to see a warning come up for the oposite side.  Also surprised no one commented on this.

Swallowing my considerable anger at this post...

Why has nobody commented on this? Because Dizzy never made a personal attack on anyone in the original thread.

Please read: Dynaverse.net Terms & Conditions

In particular:

The Dynaverse.Net website may contain bulletin boards, chat rooms, access to mailing lists or other message or communication facilities. The user agrees, when taking advantage of such facilities, not to do any of the following:

(a) defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal, moral, or human rights of others (such as rights of privacy and publicity);

If you check the original thread:
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366481.0.html

You will see that Lepton and Likkerpig were in clear violation of this policy, and received a one week ban according to our protocol, Dizzy was not violating any forum rules whatsoever in his post on the subject.

Likkerpig, sadly, has decided to leave us permanently because he did not agree with Dizzy's decree. He could have simply opted to not play on Dizzy's servers. Its too bad he'll miss out on Economy Wars and Storm Season Two. I'll miss our CubCarson and hope he'll reconsider.

I would ask that you rescind your implied accusation of administrative bias. Please be aware of all the facts before making such comments, thank you.

I understand the "fear" of firewalls has hit an all-time high and they dont help the situation.

There is no "fear" involved here, it is simple common sense and extensive experience speaking. Where the "fear" is involved is the irrational "fear" that the firewall producers foster in users to flog their products.

I agree with this 100%.  Likker was a decent guy, and a Good member here, He also had alot of Problems. Not the typical substance abuse thing, but some Mental problems. If and when he ever decides to contact us again, I woulld still help him out.

as for the situation Re: Firewalls, I really can't offer much as I'm the only sat User here. I wish to all hell, that I could Play with you guys, but a solid Con is beyond my means.

Once or twice a year, I manage to get ahold of a few People, and Play on my home LAN.

That reminds me, July 29th - 31st will be the next get together. Bring your PC to my ranch, and of course I'll provide the beef.

Now , Here's where It get's tricky. June 3rd. I'm doing a mans retreat, a way to get away from it all, Camping Fishing, and rune stones here at a park in Oklahoma. I know Dizzy will be here, as he want's to be shot with my paintball gun, don't ask me why, I guess he's a sadist.

But the thing is, My Nephew Brett, and my Grandson Julius, have never been Camping. I feel It's this old mans duty to provide that experience. Of course, I consider Frey, StormBringer, sethan, and Reluctantly  Dizzy Family. I mean Dizzy does live in southern OK after all. 

Stephen

[762_XC]

To address your comment Dfly, from an admin's standpoint (at least when acting in that role), there are no "sides". Someone either breaks the rules or does not.

The two members who broke the rules were banned.

[Dfly]

thx 762, what I was referring to was the 2 sides of the conversation or arguement, not the admins vs type. 

[762_XC]

That's what I figured you meant. My point was whatever side the admin comes in on in the dispute, he has to forget about sides while putting the admin hat on.

[Dizzy]

I mean Dizzy does live in southern OK after all. 

OMG! When Texas secedes from the nation, takes over Mexico and Cuba, Oklahoma is next!

[Just plain old Punisher]

Those who use firewalls will be shot! Those who don't use firewalls will get itchy rashes on their neither-regions!

The punisher has spoken!

[Hexx]

Those who use firewalls will be shot! Those who don't use firewalls will get itchy rashes on their neither-regions!

That's where that came from...

[Just plain old Punisher]

Here's a tip: Shaving your pubes won't make it go away either.

Enjoy!

[Sirgod]

I mean Dizzy does live in southern OK after all. 

OMG! When Texas secedes from the nation, takes over Mexico and Cuba, Oklahoma is next!

To quote Someone who is an Honarary Okie... "Come get some Biatch." 

Stephen

[likkerpig]

I agree with this 100%.  Likker was a decent guy, and a Good member here, He also had alot of Problems. Not the typical substance abuse thing, but some Mental problems. If and when he ever decides to contact us again, I woulld still help him out.

as for the situation Re: Firewalls, I really can't offer much as I'm the only sat User here. I wish to all hell, that I could Play with you guys, but a solid Con is beyond my means.

Once or twice a year, I manage to get ahold of a few People, and Play on my home LAN.

That reminds me, July 29th - 31st will be the next get together. Bring your PC to my ranch, and of course I'll provide the beef.

Now , Here's where It get's tricky. June 3rd. I'm doing a mans retreat, a way to get away from it all, Camping Fishing, and rune stones here at a park in Oklahoma. I know Dizzy will be here, as he want's to be shot with my paintball gun, don't ask me why, I guess he's a sadist.

But the thing is, My Nephew Brett, and my Grandson Julius, have never been Camping. I feel It's this old mans duty to provide that experience. Of course, I consider Frey, StormBringer, sethan, and Reluctantly  Dizzy Family. I mean Dizzy does live in southern OK after all. 

Stephen

Hmmm, see I am allowed back... been awhile since a ban, feels good.
Errr, umm, thanks for calling attention to my "mental" issues Stephan... I dunno, maybe being regarded as a drunk is better?
Anyhoo, will apologize to Dizzy, said some nasty things that were uncalled for. It wasn't the message (I turn off everything, including going through my processes tab when playing online games) but the way it was delivered... and the subsiqent fight with Lepton.
An explination, doesn't really belong here but what the hell.
Been out of work for 4 months with no unemployment benifits, stress building up, etc, etc... blew up a bit here, whole bunch more other places.
Heh, unemployed in a province with near 0 unemployment, quite a feat.
Anyhow, got two crappy low paying jobs now, 80+ hour work weeks so I won't be around to play anything anyway. Somehow through a fluke of scheduling got today off.
Time for some cheap beer I think.
Take care all.