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Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« on: April 21, 2006, 09:54:55 am »
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Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival

Variety: J.J. Abrams to take the helm

Friday, April 21, 2006; Posted: 8:32 a.m. EDT (12:32 GMT)

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- More than three years after the last "Star Trek" movie crashed at the box office, the venerable sci-fi franchise is being revived by the director of the upcoming "Mission: Impossible" sequel, Daily Variety reported in its Friday edition.

The as-yet-untitled "Star Trek" feature, the 11th since 1979, is aiming for a fall 2008 release through Paramount Pictures, the Viacom Inc. unit looking to restore its box-office luster under new management, the trade paper said.

The project will be directed by J.J. Abrams, whose Tom Cruise vehicle "Mission: Impossible III" will be released by Paramount on May 5. Abrams, famed for producing the TV shows "Alias" and "Lost," will also help write and produce.

Daily Variety said the action would center on the early days of "Star Trek" characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and first outer-space mission.

The paper described "Star Trek" as Hollywood's most durable performer after James Bond, spawning 10 features that have grossed more than $1 billion and 726 TV episodes from six series.

The 10th film, "Star Trek: Nemesis," bombed at the box office on its December 2002 release, earning just $43 million in North America. Last year, Viacom-owned broadcast network UPN pulled the plug on the low-rated series "Star Trek: Enterprise" following a four-season run.
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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2006, 11:37:23 am »
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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2006, 05:19:16 pm »
anybody but me slightly disappointed in the premise for this movie?
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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2006, 05:38:25 pm »
anybody but me slightly disappointed in the premise for this movie?

I sure as hell am. It's boycott time. April Fool's Frey? probably not. I can't believe what I'm reading. Nemesis was up against a lot of blockbusters at the time and TNG needs a rest perhaps, but this is ridiculous.
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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2006, 06:03:14 pm »
It's just rediculous.  I hope this goes the way of the Nicholas Cage Superman movie (did you ever see the promo pictures of him in the suit?!?!)  Frankly, I don't think going to Kirk and Spock is the way to save the franchise.  Besides, it's not going to be Nimoy and Shatner.  Without those two it's probably just those characters in name, and they themselves certainly couldn't play cadets anymore. ;)  If it's a story you want to do, I'd wait about 40 more years and then give it a go.

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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2006, 06:39:22 pm »
I can tell you from expierence a "cadets" life is not that interesting (it would probably rank as a soap opera or something if you were to depict it)....i don't think that will change in the future (we are a cynical bunch...)....
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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2006, 08:05:27 pm »
Mark my words: this is the death of the Trek canon of the last 40 years.


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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2006, 09:53:13 pm »
Heh, no kidding.  They can always call it a "reimagining" of Trek though, right? ;) 

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2006, 10:05:04 pm »
Let's leave the reimagining to the fans.  Personally, I think a tie-in to the SFB universe might be just what the doctor ordered.  Granted, the Great Bird didn't want Star Trek to be about battle and war, but if we want trek on the screen, stooping to ratings will have to suffice.  That's not to say the story line has to suffer, just look at the Dominion War arcs of DS9 and Babylon 5.  I know I'd make for damn sure my VCR had a tape in it for every episode just for a glimpse of carrier battle between early Feds and Mirak/Kzinti!


Paramount might even cave to the idea when they see their cash cow on the chopping block.
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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2006, 11:09:44 pm »
Here's the thing about SFB.  Just because you base elements on it doesn't mean everything has to be about war.  What would be funny would be if Trek was based on SFB which was based on Trek. ;)

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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 DEATH
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2006, 08:11:08 am »
A bit more from me as I do not intend to leave this subject alone:

Star Trek XI: The Wonder Years. Love that title.  :D  Totally bad idea.  :(  IMO, the best idea would be to combine TNG/DS9/VOY Characters into one movie, united for a greater purpose of some type - maybe include Spock as he is around in the TNG Era - and he could somehow have a pivotal role.

Prequel? Have they not learned? Although I believe Scott Bakula to be a brilliant actor and 'In a Mirror, Darkly' was utterly fantastic Trek.

I am 47 years old, you'd think I like this idea. But alas I don't. No way no how. For one thing they are restricted in what thay can do from an ENT/TOS perspective, unless they re-write Trek history somehow, which is a distinct possibility. For another thing A REALLY GOOD Trek movie is what is needed, with battles, action, and engaging story line, and characters people know. Yea most people know Kirk and Spock, but of course it can't be Nimoy and Shatner. Let's pick up a bit after Nemesis, and write a BLOCKBUSTER, kinda like First Contact.

This Wonder Years, Starfleet Academy idea, if carried out, will kill Trek as we know it and I for one will not go to see it. Normally I am open to anything, but not this garbage. Guess you know where I stand, lol.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2006, 04:14:40 pm »
I hope no one minds, but I'd like to chime in with my two cents here.

I am not sure of the general ages of all those that have posted within the group to this point, but maybe what I am about to say is due to only being 24 years old, or maybe because I've never really had a definitive outlook on a great many things, you know, like this is how it is and nothing more, and anything else is just wasteful.  Maybe I'm a dreamer, but that's all something for another topic.

Personally, and I've said this before, another prequel is not a bad idea, and never has been.  The only reason Enterprise ended up dying in flames was because the infamous duo of B&B did their best to purposely kill off Trek after a while.  For whatever reason that was, maybe so they could do their own projects without having to contend with one of the longest running Sci-Fi genres ever (my personal theory), only B&B know the truth.

Again, a prequel isn't a bad idea.  Yes, I do agree, maybe going the route of Kirk and Spock's early years may not be the best thing, since most, if not the entire, Trek community wouldn't be able to swallow the idea of seeing two young kids on screen dawning the names of James T. Kirk and Spock.  It would be the equivalent of religious heresy, but then again, if done correctly, right from the start, it is doable.  I mean, they kinda did it once in Star Trek 5, when Sybok was showing Spock his birth, and a young guy dawned the role of Sarek just for that one scene.  I know, one scene doesn't compare to an entire movie, and the character of Sarek isn't as routed in Trek as Kirk and Spock, but still, it does show that something on the scale of this planned movie is possible.

Maybe most of the people who feel the way you all do know are basing their judgements on the way B&B intentionally butchered Enterprise, maybe not.  If this movie is done right, if the producers and directors cast the right people for the roles, it could work.  I've always felt that after Nemesis, there was much more potential for stories before the days of Picard, maybe even Kirk himself.  We know alot of what happened during Kirk's first 5-year mission, we know alot of what happened after the V'Ger incident, because we've seen it.  Not much has ever been really known about what happened during the days after Sulu became captain of the Excelsior and after the maiden voyage of the Enterprise B, nor do we really know much about what happened before the days of Kirk. 

Again, if done right, from the very beginning, casting, producing, and script writing, it could be pulled off successfully, and could probably bring Trek back from the brink. 

My two cents.

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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 DEATH
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2006, 02:10:15 am »

Prequel? Have they not learned? Although I believe Scott Bakula to be a brilliant actor and 'In a Mirror, Darkly' was utterly fantastic Trek.

Learned what?  Writing that sucks leads to projects that fail?  Dunno.   Hollywood's been ignoring that lesson for years.


But hey, if the script is good, the movie will be good.  I'll wait until I know more about the script.

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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2006, 02:43:26 am »
Well, this caught me by suprise.  I don't know what too say guys, I'm trying to think of an opinion on this new proposed movie but its hard to give an opinion if this is good or bad.  The reason, over the past few months, I've been contemplating if I'm getting to old for Trek.  I still play a lot of Starfleet Command and I'm excited about ADB's new "Federation Commander"game (never thought a game based on SFB would be so simple to play!) but those are basically war games so that doesn't really count.  And I've been watching old TNG and DS9 Eps. on Spike aswell.  So I'm not saying that I've grown tired of Trek, but I ask myself after I watch a good ep on Spike "can they ever really make any more stories better then these now?".  That is part of the reason why I'm wondering if "I've outgrown" Trek.  I'm 30 years old now, and I feel like that line from Star Trek 2 TWOK when Kirk is on the Simulator Bridge and says "Exploring the Galaxy is for the young!". 

As for this movie, the plot is sort of unique, but with all the problems Star Trek Enterprise had, I'm very suprised that Paramont wants to pursue another prequel type story.  It just seems very risky.  Do you guys think Paramont might be kinda trying to make Star Trek into something like Battlestar Galactica?  No, i'm not saying the same plot, but what I mean is kinda try to slowly (over time) re-envision Star Trek into a type of different story?  If you haven't seen the New BSG series, it is quite a bit different then the old Series. 

Well, if this is the case, if they can reinvent Shakespere all the time, why would Star Trek be any different.   ::) 

But regardless, I still wonder if I'm like Kirk on the simulator bridge, wondering if I'm just too old for this stuff anymore.
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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 DEATH
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2006, 08:29:44 am »

Prequel? Have they not learned? Although I believe Scott Bakula to be a brilliant actor and 'In a Mirror, Darkly' was utterly fantastic Trek.


Learned what?  Writing that sucks leads to projects that fail?  Dunno.   Hollywood's been ignoring that lesson for years.


But hey, if the script is good, the movie will be good.  I'll wait until I know more about the script.

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Nemesis was up against a lot of blockbusters at the time


The other blockbusters didn't kill it.   (I can't even remember what they might have been.)   Nemesis stunk up the box office because the script stunk.  Enterprise went down in flames because the number of good scripts to bad scripts was horribly low; especially early on.  They failed for the same reason, but only one is a prequel.  It isn't the time period they were set in that doomed them.

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Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets for one.. but you are right. It may have been more the director coupled with the writing with regard to Nemesis. Levar Burton and Mirina Sirtis have gone on record as not approving of Stuart Baird's handling of the Trek franchise in Nemesis. http://www.sliceofscifi.com/archives/burton_sirtis_rip_baird_a_new_one.html
I went off, I think, partly in frustration over how Nemesis turned out, and this Wonder Years idea set me off. I do like what I read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek with regard to Patrick Stewart and future TNG Films.
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'On December 1, Patrick Stewart stated that discussions have been held regarding a possible new film featuring the TNG crew, although the actor indicated that his stage commitments would prevent him from participating in such a production until sometime in 2007. Stewart did not indicate whether this is being considered as an alternative to the prequel proposal or a separate production entirely.' from this link.. http://www.answers.com/topic/star-trek-xi
I tend to think all is not lost - but I wish this Wonder Years thing would beam into space and be gone. I did read of a possible combination deal with TNG/DS9/VOY crew members somewhere, I think mentioned by Stewart.. can't find the link right this minute.
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2006, 06:02:13 am »
I think a Starfleet Academy movie with new young actors is a good idea. Not sure about the prequel thing, though. If so, I hope they keep the tech the same as the orig series to keep the feel. Enterprise would have been much better if they did that.

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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2006, 07:25:35 am »
Uh, oh!  Somebody else has The Movies!  I'd be happy to help with voice overs or whatever you need.  I loved the Gorn, btw.  I couldn't help but laugh.  Someone's going to have to make a real Gorn mod someday. The captain sounded like he was on an all week bender and fell out of bed to make an appearance on the bridge (the five o'clock shadow seemed to reinforce that image).  Fun stuff.

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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2006, 10:45:25 am »
Yeah, the Captain does have a rough edge to him. I mainly need a female voice to take the place of No. 1. I plan to have some marines beam over and need voices for them, though. But instead of a part 2 (main battle), I'm going to just stick it on the tail of this first part for a complete story. I'm really enjoying The Movies. The Movies expansion is coming out in June with really cool stuff in it. Can't wait!

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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2006, 09:25:43 pm »
Heh, no kidding.  They can always call it a "reimagining" of Trek though, right? ;) 

It DID work for Batman...

so it COULD work.

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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2006, 08:29:28 pm »
Um now no one has updated this? Abrams' denies the plotline, or directing. He says he is producing 11 with an option to direct and that there is not ruth to the academy stuff and he doesn't plan on telling either.
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2006, 09:04:40 pm »
I'm actually torn on the issue.

Star Wars goes prequel and the light bulbs go off a Paramount?   ::)

Then again:

It may be interesting to see early Federation, Klingon, and Romulan ships on the big screen.

Of course they could always royally screw this up, but here's hoping.


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Re: Report: 'Star Trek' set for '08 revival
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2006, 10:34:30 am »
well a movie with kirk and Spock with new actors or the same but showing them younger is not a good idea, kinda startrek cadet story is not good with kirk and Spock, startrek enterprise was interesting for showing how the Vulcan where in the past, so a story with tng/ds9 and voyager would be interesting IF the don't screw it, the B4 android who should not existed  since the fist one was Loy, for DS9 sisco is part of the prophet and voyager have return to earth, if the want a startrek movie to be successfull is to keep the history intact, a movie with the crew of voyager ds9 and tng would be good but since those who wright the story don't seem to know what the do or never view the movie and the series would mess it up, so here a start, the brother of khan who want to take control of ds9 and wanted sfc to give him kirk or he will use ds9 to provoke a war with the dominions, since khan have no brother the story will be just stupid, it would have Ben interesting if paramount was maybe thinking a bit more before trying something stupid with startrek, a new series with sulu on the excelsior would be interesting, including tuvok as a lieutenant on the excelsior, but i wont be surprise if the movie is a failure like the last stratrek.

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