Topic: The Forge II - Info and feedback

[Dfly]

does this mean you will release LordKrueg soon? 

[romulansithlord]

Solo reporting in.

 Sorry, didn't know if what I have been doing is legal or not.  In fact, I hadn't even used the warp doubling in my battles.  Let me know if I must "uncloak" and revert back to the Romulan side if I must. 

My observations as a pirate:

Winning a battle would give the Cartel shift accordingly -  a loss shifts the Empire for a loss.
I still have to fight my way across the galaxy like everyone else (no logging in/out).
ALL planets and bases supply me (thanx Coalition and Alliance for the gas !!!)

Well, back to my Kessel run,  er.... wrong galaxy.

Solo

[Bonk]

Sorry, didn't know if what I have been doing is legal or not.  In fact, I hadn't even used the warp doubling in my battles.  Let me know if I must "uncloak" and revert back to the Romulan side if I must. 

No rule in particular against it currently. I was just a bit shocked by the economy of the Prime cartel and scared by the thought of a warp doubling Rom DN. I'm suprised you're not using it considering the significant progress you've made. Don't bother switching back unless other players object strongly, and I definitely would not use warp doubling with that ship in PvP.

Basically, I'd like to keep The Forge light on rules and strong on good sportsmanship. Its worked out pretty well that way so far.

Winning a battle would give the Cartel shift accordingly -  a loss shifts the Empire for a loss.

Interesting, that may depend on whether the Empire in the hex is allied or not and perhaps the mission. I'd like to see more detailed observations on this if anyone gets the chance.

I still have to fight my way across the galaxy like everyone else (no logging in/out).
ALL planets and bases supply me (thanx Coalition and Alliance for the gas !!!)

This is normal for the pirates, though you should be able to move freely through hexes where both the cartel and empire are allied to you.

Check out the wormholes on the webmap page to move around the galaxy (I had also assumed you were using that considering the wide ranging progress you've made). Though the wormhole network will be restricted somewhat from where it is now once I get the chance to update or replace the code.

Well, back to my Kessel run,  er.... wrong galaxy.

Solo

Carry on, scoundrel! 

[KBF-Kapact]

THe shiplist and fighterlist go in \Assets\Specs AND \MetaAssets.

However if you are manually installing OP+4 then somehting is not right, it is distributed as an installer. As mentioned above OP+4 also requires strings files a model.siz file and dozens of model folders and models which you should aslo check.

Are you runing multiple installs of OP?

Have you isntalled and configured Hardcore? (did you install the old version of it at any point?)

How are you launching OP? (Try copying StarfleetOP.exe and paste it as a shortcut on the desktop and use that shortcut to launch the game)

Shiplist:
http://www.dynaverse.net/downloads/sfc2_op/Mods/opplus_40_models.exe (61M with models)
OR http://www.dynaverse.net/downloads/sfc2_op/Mods/opplus_40_no_models.exe (275K stock model copies)
http://www.dynaverse.net/downloads/sfc2_op/Mods/opplus_40_shiplist.zip (316K shiplist-fighterlist only - but you can't just throw these on top of a stock install)

Missions:
http://www.dynaverse.net/downloads/sfc2_op/Scripts/TheForgeScripts.exe (1.4M)

I will check the server at some point and give it a reboot to ensure that the security server is not bugged somehow and inconsistently rejecting logins. When this is happening to people are they trying more than once? (could it just be bandwidth issues?)

If you are running multiple OP installs read this post above to see why that can be a problem:
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163366452.msg1122725650.html#msg1122725650
(Only one registry entry for the directory location - despite multiple installs.)

If you want to run multiple copies of OP check this thred:
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163365074.0.htmllast

Thanks a bunch, Bonk. I finally uninstalled OPplus, and reinstalled. Then put shiplists where they belong, and all was good. One last prob was that I bought a ship on the webmap that never showed ingame. What I finally did was re-sign in with a new email addy. All was really good then. +1 karma for all the help and the great server. I was offline for like almost a year, and unhappy to find myself on the inactive roster. So I'm happy to be back in the saddle again....

[Bartok]

Greetings Folks -

Just wanted to shoot a mail and check in so to speak.  Some overhaul of my homes HVAC + switching ISP's have kept (and will keep) me away from the Forge for a couple more days....

Just in case some of y'all were wondering where I'd got too;)

cheers to all,

KBF-Bartok

[Lord Khan]

 I was offline for like almost a year, and unhappy to find myself on the inactive roster. So I'm happy to be back in the saddle again....

Taken care of, sir...

[KBFLordKrueg]

 I was offline for like almost a year, and unhappy to find myself on the inactive roster. So I'm happy to be back in the saddle again....

Taken care of, sir...

 
Posted under Khan's account, but it's taken care of, Kapact...

[KBF-Kapact]

 I was offline for like almost a year, and unhappy to find myself on the inactive roster. So I'm happy to be back in the saddle again....

Taken care of, sir...

 
Posted under Khan's account, but it's taken care of, Kapact...

Thanks Captain Lord Krueg Sir

[romulansithlord]

Hi Bonk.  In reply to-


"Winning a battle would give the Cartel shift accordingly -  a loss shifts the Empire for a loss.

Interesting, that may depend on whether the Empire in the hex is allied or not and perhaps the mission. I'd like to see more detailed observations on this if anyone gets the chance".

You are correct.  Flying under the Prime Cartel, a loss normally increases my opposing Alliance Empire, or lowers the Coalition defense value.  There is an ulterior motive for this.   


"I still have to fight my way across the galaxy like everyone else (no logging in/out).
ALL planets and bases supply me (thanx Coalition and Alliance for the gas !!!)

This is normal for the pirates, though you should be able to move freely through hexes where both the cartel and empire are allied to you.

Check out the wormholes on the webmap page to move around the galaxy (I had also assumed you were using that considering the wide ranging progress you've made). Though the wormhole network will be restricted somewhat from where it is now once I get the chance to update or replace the code".

I haven't tried the wormhole network.  It has been easier to hit all the hexes that I have targeted along the way. 

Also, hex 12,6 has a Cartel defense of 242 on the Forge and a defense of 1010 on the webmap.   

Solo out.

[Bonk]

One last prob was that I bought a ship on the webmap that never showed ingame.

Was it this account and this ship?:

LtCommander Kapact (1400)
Empire: Klingon Empire
Prestige: 233 / 802
(K-F5Y) IKV Insufferable
(K-F5L) HMCS Webmap
HomeWorld: 15,19
Battles Played: 6

Because it looks like it came in from here... ships purchased from the shiplist on the webyards still go through the bid process and will take 5-10 minutes to come in. You should be able to see your bid in the auction on both the webyards and the in-game shipyards before the ship is awarded to you if you win the auction. (Though this will change in future so that webyard purchases from the shiplist will be instantaneous)

+1 karma for all the help and the great server. I was offline for like almost a year, and unhappy to find myself on the inactive roster. So I'm happy to be back in the saddle again....

 

[Bonk]

You are correct.  Flying under the Prime Cartel, a loss normally increases my opposing Alliance Empire, or lowers the Coalition defense value.  There is an ulterior motive for this.   

That is how it should work, thanks for the more complete report.

Also, hex 12,6 has a Cartel defense of 242 on the Forge and a defense of 1010 on the webmap.   

I see it as an Empire DV of 10 and Cartel DV of 1010. Thanks for the report, I'll fix that. (Cartel DVs seems to bug out like that for some reason occasionally).

[KBF-Kapact]

One last prob was that I bought a ship on the webmap that never showed ingame.

Was it this account and this ship?:

LtCommander Kapact (1400)
Empire: Klingon Empire
Prestige: 233 / 802
(K-F5Y) IKV Insufferable
(K-F5L) HMCS Webmap
HomeWorld: 15,19
Battles Played: 6

Because it looks like it came in from here... ships purchased from the shiplist on the webyards still go through the bid process and will take 5-10 minutes to come in. You should be able to see your bid in the auction on both the webyards and the in-game shipyards before the ship is awarded to you if you win the auction. (Though this will change in future so that webyard purchases from the shiplist will be instantaneous)

+1 karma for all the help and the great server. I was offline for like almost a year, and unhappy to find myself on the inactive roster. So I'm happy to be back in the saddle again....

 

That was all the right details... I waited a day or two and never saw the ship, but it didn't show, so I created a new account and all is good since then. Don't worry about the other one....


Kapact

[Bonk]

I think you might be confused about which of your three accounts you used the webmap with and which one you logged in on the server expecting to find the ship.

The shipcachevector for Kapact and the ship table both show that character as having received the ship. This could only have happened within 10 minutes or not at all.

Could you please login on the server with that account and let me know if the webyards purchased K-F5L shows or not. I cannot imagine how it could not, if it does not show I would really like to know how it got into the characters shipcachevector and marked as owned by you in the ship table without a sucessful auction as processed by the game server. If that has happened I really need to know so I can find out why. I hope to God it has not in fact happened because it will be one heck of a mystery to figure out, which I iwill have to figure out before doing any further work on the serverkit or webmap stuff.

Make sure you login on Kapact, not KBF-Kapact or kbf_kapact to see if that K-F5L shows in the supply panel for that character. It should be the second of two ships.

[KBF-Kapact]

I think you might be confused about which of your three accounts you used the webmap with and which one you logged in on the server expecting to find the ship.

The shipcachevector for Kapact and the ship table both show that character as having received the ship. This could only have happened within 10 minutes or not at all.

Could you please login on the server with that account and let me know if the webyards purchased K-F5L shows or not. I cannot imagine how it could not, if it does not show I would really like to know how it got into the characters shipcachevector and marked as owned by you in the ship table without a sucessful auction as processed by the game server. If that has happened I really need to know so I can find out why. I hope to God it has not in fact happened because it will be one heck of a mystery to figure out, which I iwill have to figure out before doing any further work on the serverkit or webmap stuff.

Make sure you login on Kapact, not KBF-Kapact or kbf_kapact to see if that K-F5L shows in the supply panel for that character. It should be the second of two ships.

No worries. It may be tomorrow, though, since I work late today and start early tomorrow. It's a get home, go to bed, get up, go back to work thing. Then I'll be on to it.


Kapact

[KBF-Kapact]

I think you might be confused about which of your three accounts you used the webmap with and which one you logged in on the server expecting to find the ship.

The shipcachevector for Kapact and the ship table both show that character as having received the ship. This could only have happened within 10 minutes or not at all.

Could you please login on the server with that account and let me know if the webyards purchased K-F5L shows or not. I cannot imagine how it could not, if it does not show I would really like to know how it got into the characters shipcachevector and marked as owned by you in the ship table without a sucessful auction as processed by the game server. If that has happened I really need to know so I can find out why. I hope to God it has not in fact happened because it will be one heck of a mystery to figure out, which I iwill have to figure out before doing any further work on the serverkit or webmap stuff.

Make sure you login on Kapact, not KBF-Kapact or kbf_kapact to see if that K-F5L shows in the supply panel for that character. It should be the second of two ships.

You're right. I logged in there and found that ship. I think I was logged on to the forums with one ID and the server with another. So that's why I didn't see the ship. I was looking in the wrong place. I just didn't get how the webmap worked. I'm now waiting for my confirmation email for the latest one, so I can use the webmap. Until then, I'm happy just working off the server. Thanks.


Kapact

[kbf_kapact]

Done, Bonk....


Thanks!

[Bonk]

You're right. I logged in there and found that ship. I think I was logged on to the forums with one ID and the server with another. So that's why I didn't see the ship. I was looking in the wrong place. I just didn't get how the webmap worked. I'm now waiting for my confirmation email for the latest one, so I can use the webmap. Until then, I'm happy just working off the server. Thanks.

Thank you very much for checking that out for me. I was a little worried that something could be drastically wrong. Looks like things are OK then, or as normal as they ever are around here.. Thanks again. 

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

I'm ghosted.

[Bonk]

I'm ghosted.

Have you tried rebooting your PC and disconnecting from the internet yet?

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

yup.