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Another Trek TV Series?
« on: March 25, 2006, 09:26:28 pm »
Anyone seen this or heard it from another source?


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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2006, 09:32:53 pm »
I have not, but I hope it's true! Love Star Trek and just purchased all four seasson of Enterprise!

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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2006, 12:06:56 am »
Well, I agree with him.  I don't think that in the end folks are going to say "Hey, you know that franchise we have that has rabid fans all around the world?  Yeah, let's just shelf it, there's no money to be made there."

I think I read an article where they were looking at the viability of straight to video stuff for Trek, though.  As long as they don't just crap stuff out I'd be ok with that, but I have a feeling it would be low budget.

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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2006, 12:26:07 pm »
Trek will be back, hopefully with new blood and a new creative spirit.   The last season of Enterprise was awesome after the got someone else beside B&B running the show.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2006, 06:21:56 pm »
The history channel was running a week long series called "How William Shatner changed the world" In it he said there would be no more Star Trek TV series.

God I hope he was wrong

I have also heard that a possible remake of the original has been tossed around as has a mini-series dealing with the return of Sisko to DS-9. Granted I also heard that the DS-9 Sisko thing may also be incorporated into the next movie.

But who knows. This is Trek after all.

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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2006, 04:43:48 am »
Well guys, I might regreat this, but I would like to give my opinion on Star Treks future.

I grew up with Star Trek since I was a kid.  Watched Star Trek 2 TWOK as one of my first Star Trek experiences and still consider it one of the best Star Trek episodes.  I read that article and Bakula seems enthusiastic about a new Star Trek series.  Even though some critisized him, I thought he did a pretty good job on Enterprise.  If Paramont/Viacom did decide to do another Star Trek series, I personally would be very wary of watching it.  Not that I have grown tired of Star Trek, I just wonder to myself if a new Star Trek series is "just not for my generation anymore".  I like watching some of the old TNG and DS9 eps on Spike and such, but i wonder if there are hardly any new story plots for them to think of anymore.  Maybe I'm getting too old and unimaginiative, but TOS, TNG, and DS9 really hit on a lot of stories and issues and wonder if they could ever build (let alone top) on them with a new series.  And with the problems Star Trek: Enterprise had with its first 3 seasons, wouldn't you think it would be wise for Paramont too take a time out before trying to go at it again? 

And why do a series right now?  How about going back too making a Movie or two and test out the waters again?

P.S.  I must admit, a movie or a small mini-series based on Sisko would be rather interesting.  And I will say that the last season of Enterprise written Manny Koto (I think that was his name) was by far some of the better stories of the series.  If they are going to get writers for a new Star trek Stories, Manny would be a good start. 
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2006, 08:16:46 am »
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2006, 05:24:31 pm »
I'm not sure about that.  I still think a Movie would be best.  Test the waters like I said above.  I don't know about species8472, why would they worry about the Feds (or anybody else in the Alpha quadrant) when there are whole other Galaxies and civilizations that could threaten them just as much. 

there is still a huge amout of the Galaxy left unexplored.  And with Voyagers pitstops along the way back to the Alpha quadrant, there are tons of unexplored space left in the Mikyway.  As for Enterprise, I do agree, the Era was a difficult one to do right.  If your going to do preqeuls, you got to do your homework because its part of the history of series. 
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2006, 12:04:50 am »
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

I absolutely disagree with this.   Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did.  The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly.  The problem wasn't that it was a prequel.   The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation.  (But most of the writing would have stunk even if it had happened in Next Generation.)

Personally, I would find an early era show far more interesting than moving further down the timeline.

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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2006, 03:45:53 am »
Ya, I do agree with many of your points S'Cipio.  That is why I suggested a Movie or a small mini-series, to test the waters.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2006, 04:27:30 am »
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Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did.  The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly.  The problem wasn't that it was a prequel.   The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation.

This statement is quite accurate.

We saw some of what that show could've accomplished with occasional great episodes and a much improved fourth season.  Just enough goodness to frustrate fans with hints of competence.

Special effects and fanboy-pleasing uber ships mean nothing.  If they did, shows like Battlestar Galactica and Firefly might suffer for the lack...instead they've replaced Trek as the best of TV sci-fi.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2006, 05:02:50 am »
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

I absolutely disagree with this.   Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did.  The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly.  The problem wasn't that it was a prequel.   The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation.  (But most of the writing would have stunk even if it had happened in Next Generation.)

Personally, I would find an early era show far more interesting than moving further down the timeline.

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Right on! B&B blew enterprise and the 4th season showed that you could do a prequel and all you had to do is fill in all the backstop holes left by TOS and other treks. I just finished watching the vulcan arc from the 4th season and it was awesome. The andorian tellarite stuff was great too. If Enterprise had been this way out of the gates, they wouldn't have lost half the audience and might have grown it some.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2006, 05:47:33 am »
Yep, but they always get the wrong message.  They walk away saying "Gee, prequels are tired and don't work" and "maybe the franchise just needs a rest" instead of "Gee, these guys who are writing and in charge are tired and didn't work out and didn't pay attention to any kind of continuity the fans were looking for, at all"  OK, now they aren't working there anymore "technically" but they'll be back (one is working on a movie, right?).  With Threshold off the air (cancelled before it could finish a season.  Surely not! ;))  I would bet money Bragga is going to want to worm his way back into the fold.  Unfortunately I didn't see all of the fourth season, but what I did see was tremendous (with a few exceptions... Romulan Ridges!  Aaaaargh!).  It certainly wasn't the casts fault, I've maintained that they were my favorite next to TOS, but the plots and writing were just so ghastly and then the trouncing of established trek lore... Man, there should be a lawsuit in there somewhere for mishandling of property, shouldn't there?  If I put someone in charge like that again, I'd want a clause in the contract that would give me compensation for such blatant disregard for the franchise and it's future value.  Oh, wait!  They thought they were going to make it better than all that crappy stuff that had been said in all those other series, right?  You know, all those awful episode that spawned a cultural phenomenon?  Yeah, we're so much better than that.  Ugh!   ::)

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2006, 08:57:31 pm »
Well, I don't know about doing an early era show is the best thing for Paramont right now.  B & B still run the show and I would be cautious in letting them have the Driver seat again in writing the eps.  But as the 4th season of Enterprise showed, an Early era series is not out of the question.

Having a show just after DS9 or Nemisis is also a possibility.  After the battle between Sisko and Dukat in the Fire Caves, at lot happened in the Alpha Quadrant.  Gem H'dar soilders all over the place with no war to fight.  Is the Worm hole off limits now after the Dominion war?  The Distruction of the Cardassian empire must have left a lot of uncertainty in the whole region.  And what about the Breen?  I'm sure many races and empries don't trust them as much as they use too.  Lots of interesting stories can be made with just what happened in the previous series then trying to introduce a new bad guy all the time. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2006, 01:34:34 am »
I think that's where they falter all the time.  They seem so desperate to make all the main enemies into friends.  What's so wrong with having an enemy that wants to stay enemies?  Surely there must be some race in the universe who won't latch onto a human's version of reason and decide that the universe would be better off without those pesky Federation folks (I know a lot of humans think we'd be better off without those pesky UN folks, so they've got to be somewhere, right?).  As long as B&B are attached in anyway, I would pray Paramount just sits on Trek.  When they are gone, then start pumpin' out the Trek goodness using folks who really know what they are doing.  I'd go with post Nemesis because of the damage B&B have done to the idea of a prequel.  I'd bring back an old enemy.  make them even more hell bent on causing havok within the empire.  Heck, I'd bring them all back, Romulans more of an enemy than ever, Klingons decide to go back to the way of the warrior...  It makes it a more interesting universe when you are having to look over your shoulder for Klinks and Roms while you're negotiating that peace treaty with "planet of the week". ;)

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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2006, 11:00:20 pm »
Having a show just after DS9 or Nemisis is also a possibility.

You are definitely onto something there.  Just remember there is only one "i" in Nemesis but two "e"s.

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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2006, 12:08:10 am »
I don't know.  From your sig pic, you look like a Teletubby.  Now, carrying your own communicator in your belly is a novel sci fi idea, but I'm not sure people on these forums are into Teletubbies!   ;D

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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2006, 01:57:19 pm »
That's Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, baby!  Love that guy.  :D

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2006, 02:06:42 pm »
That's Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, baby!  Love that guy.  :D

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