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Another Trek TV Series?
« on: March 25, 2006, 09:26:28 pm »
Anyone seen this or heard it from another source?


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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2006, 09:32:53 pm »
I have not, but I hope it's true! Love Star Trek and just purchased all four seasson of Enterprise!

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2006, 12:06:56 am »
Well, I agree with him.  I don't think that in the end folks are going to say "Hey, you know that franchise we have that has rabid fans all around the world?  Yeah, let's just shelf it, there's no money to be made there."

I think I read an article where they were looking at the viability of straight to video stuff for Trek, though.  As long as they don't just crap stuff out I'd be ok with that, but I have a feeling it would be low budget.

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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2006, 12:26:07 pm »
Trek will be back, hopefully with new blood and a new creative spirit.   The last season of Enterprise was awesome after the got someone else beside B&B running the show.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2006, 06:21:56 pm »
The history channel was running a week long series called "How William Shatner changed the world" In it he said there would be no more Star Trek TV series.

God I hope he was wrong

I have also heard that a possible remake of the original has been tossed around as has a mini-series dealing with the return of Sisko to DS-9. Granted I also heard that the DS-9 Sisko thing may also be incorporated into the next movie.

But who knows. This is Trek after all.

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2006, 04:43:48 am »
Well guys, I might regreat this, but I would like to give my opinion on Star Treks future.

I grew up with Star Trek since I was a kid.  Watched Star Trek 2 TWOK as one of my first Star Trek experiences and still consider it one of the best Star Trek episodes.  I read that article and Bakula seems enthusiastic about a new Star Trek series.  Even though some critisized him, I thought he did a pretty good job on Enterprise.  If Paramont/Viacom did decide to do another Star Trek series, I personally would be very wary of watching it.  Not that I have grown tired of Star Trek, I just wonder to myself if a new Star Trek series is "just not for my generation anymore".  I like watching some of the old TNG and DS9 eps on Spike and such, but i wonder if there are hardly any new story plots for them to think of anymore.  Maybe I'm getting too old and unimaginiative, but TOS, TNG, and DS9 really hit on a lot of stories and issues and wonder if they could ever build (let alone top) on them with a new series.  And with the problems Star Trek: Enterprise had with its first 3 seasons, wouldn't you think it would be wise for Paramont too take a time out before trying to go at it again? 

And why do a series right now?  How about going back too making a Movie or two and test out the waters again?

P.S.  I must admit, a movie or a small mini-series based on Sisko would be rather interesting.  And I will say that the last season of Enterprise written Manny Koto (I think that was his name) was by far some of the better stories of the series.  If they are going to get writers for a new Star trek Stories, Manny would be a good start. 
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2006, 08:16:46 am »
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2006, 05:24:31 pm »
I'm not sure about that.  I still think a Movie would be best.  Test the waters like I said above.  I don't know about species8472, why would they worry about the Feds (or anybody else in the Alpha quadrant) when there are whole other Galaxies and civilizations that could threaten them just as much. 

there is still a huge amout of the Galaxy left unexplored.  And with Voyagers pitstops along the way back to the Alpha quadrant, there are tons of unexplored space left in the Mikyway.  As for Enterprise, I do agree, the Era was a difficult one to do right.  If your going to do preqeuls, you got to do your homework because its part of the history of series. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2006, 12:04:50 am »
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

I absolutely disagree with this.   Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did.  The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly.  The problem wasn't that it was a prequel.   The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation.  (But most of the writing would have stunk even if it had happened in Next Generation.)

Personally, I would find an early era show far more interesting than moving further down the timeline.

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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2006, 03:45:53 am »
Ya, I do agree with many of your points S'Cipio.  That is why I suggested a Movie or a small mini-series, to test the waters.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2006, 04:27:30 am »
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Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did.  The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly.  The problem wasn't that it was a prequel.   The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation.

This statement is quite accurate.

We saw some of what that show could've accomplished with occasional great episodes and a much improved fourth season.  Just enough goodness to frustrate fans with hints of competence.

Special effects and fanboy-pleasing uber ships mean nothing.  If they did, shows like Battlestar Galactica and Firefly might suffer for the lack...instead they've replaced Trek as the best of TV sci-fi.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2006, 05:02:50 am »
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

I absolutely disagree with this.   Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did.  The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly.  The problem wasn't that it was a prequel.   The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation.  (But most of the writing would have stunk even if it had happened in Next Generation.)

Personally, I would find an early era show far more interesting than moving further down the timeline.

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Right on! B&B blew enterprise and the 4th season showed that you could do a prequel and all you had to do is fill in all the backstop holes left by TOS and other treks. I just finished watching the vulcan arc from the 4th season and it was awesome. The andorian tellarite stuff was great too. If Enterprise had been this way out of the gates, they wouldn't have lost half the audience and might have grown it some.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2006, 05:47:33 am »
Yep, but they always get the wrong message.  They walk away saying "Gee, prequels are tired and don't work" and "maybe the franchise just needs a rest" instead of "Gee, these guys who are writing and in charge are tired and didn't work out and didn't pay attention to any kind of continuity the fans were looking for, at all"  OK, now they aren't working there anymore "technically" but they'll be back (one is working on a movie, right?).  With Threshold off the air (cancelled before it could finish a season.  Surely not! ;))  I would bet money Bragga is going to want to worm his way back into the fold.  Unfortunately I didn't see all of the fourth season, but what I did see was tremendous (with a few exceptions... Romulan Ridges!  Aaaaargh!).  It certainly wasn't the casts fault, I've maintained that they were my favorite next to TOS, but the plots and writing were just so ghastly and then the trouncing of established trek lore... Man, there should be a lawsuit in there somewhere for mishandling of property, shouldn't there?  If I put someone in charge like that again, I'd want a clause in the contract that would give me compensation for such blatant disregard for the franchise and it's future value.  Oh, wait!  They thought they were going to make it better than all that crappy stuff that had been said in all those other series, right?  You know, all those awful episode that spawned a cultural phenomenon?  Yeah, we're so much better than that.  Ugh!   ::)

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2006, 08:57:31 pm »
Well, I don't know about doing an early era show is the best thing for Paramont right now.  B & B still run the show and I would be cautious in letting them have the Driver seat again in writing the eps.  But as the 4th season of Enterprise showed, an Early era series is not out of the question.

Having a show just after DS9 or Nemisis is also a possibility.  After the battle between Sisko and Dukat in the Fire Caves, at lot happened in the Alpha Quadrant.  Gem H'dar soilders all over the place with no war to fight.  Is the Worm hole off limits now after the Dominion war?  The Distruction of the Cardassian empire must have left a lot of uncertainty in the whole region.  And what about the Breen?  I'm sure many races and empries don't trust them as much as they use too.  Lots of interesting stories can be made with just what happened in the previous series then trying to introduce a new bad guy all the time. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2006, 01:34:34 am »
I think that's where they falter all the time.  They seem so desperate to make all the main enemies into friends.  What's so wrong with having an enemy that wants to stay enemies?  Surely there must be some race in the universe who won't latch onto a human's version of reason and decide that the universe would be better off without those pesky Federation folks (I know a lot of humans think we'd be better off without those pesky UN folks, so they've got to be somewhere, right?).  As long as B&B are attached in anyway, I would pray Paramount just sits on Trek.  When they are gone, then start pumpin' out the Trek goodness using folks who really know what they are doing.  I'd go with post Nemesis because of the damage B&B have done to the idea of a prequel.  I'd bring back an old enemy.  make them even more hell bent on causing havok within the empire.  Heck, I'd bring them all back, Romulans more of an enemy than ever, Klingons decide to go back to the way of the warrior...  It makes it a more interesting universe when you are having to look over your shoulder for Klinks and Roms while you're negotiating that peace treaty with "planet of the week". ;)

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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2006, 11:00:20 pm »
Having a show just after DS9 or Nemisis is also a possibility.

You are definitely onto something there.  Just remember there is only one "i" in Nemesis but two "e"s.

                                 A show based on ME would be excellent, an instant smash hit.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2006, 12:08:10 am »
I don't know.  From your sig pic, you look like a Teletubby.  Now, carrying your own communicator in your belly is a novel sci fi idea, but I'm not sure people on these forums are into Teletubbies!   ;D

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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2006, 01:57:19 pm »
That's Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, baby!  Love that guy.  :D

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2006, 02:06:42 pm »
That's Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, baby!  Love that guy.  :D

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2006, 02:53:01 pm »
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

I absolutely disagree with this.   Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did.  The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly.  The problem wasn't that it was a prequel.   The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation.  (But most of the writing would have stunk even if it had happened in Next Generation.)

Personally, I would find an early era show far more interesting than moving further down the timeline.

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I couldn't agree with you more and it would be nice to see something from the 23C. for a change to much TNG except DS9.The link isn't working btw.

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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2006, 11:16:13 am »
hmm.

link fixed..

I'd like to see a series with Riker and the USS Titan, as a follow up to Nemesis.

OR

More of the Mirror Universe from the Enterprise perspective.
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2006, 02:05:29 pm »
Chris, I'd love to see Big Bad Admrial Picard running Starfleet Command in such a series, one to whom all Starfleet captains quake in their boots, Klingons ask favors of, and Romulans test wits against.  Problem is, I don't Patrick Stewart would accept such a role anymore.

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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2006, 06:25:14 pm »
Prob'ly not.  But Admiral Janeway is already there.

Dammit man...Janeway is the boss NO ONE can bitch to.  She's been across the galaxy lost trying to get home with no resources, had to deal with the borg and numerous threats, had to deal with Q, was present at the big bang, and a myriad of other stuff...

I feel sorry for starfleet...no one can complain about anything anymore.

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2006, 05:15:28 am »
Well, the parallel dark side Universe might not be a too good ideea.
Practically the Federation was gone and there was total chaos.
Everything would be turned to a fight of a resistance cell against everyone else.
As for the USS Titan + Riker... this would be good to have, but some old crew  "infusions"would probably become necessary.
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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2006, 07:22:25 pm »
I personally would like to see a series more or less modeled on a book series i read recently...about IKS Gorkon..captain Klag(Ryker's friend from the cultural exchange)..it takes place after the Dominion war..the Klingon Empire needs to expand to recover..and it is an excellent series...doing a show in that vein might be refreshing


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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2006, 07:52:41 pm »
Klingon civil war with the TOS Klingons returning to power and making the Empire a power house once more.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2006, 05:54:46 pm »
Klingon civil war with the TOS Klingons returning to power and making the Empire a power house once more.

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2006, 08:24:23 pm »
I'll tell you the problem with Trek right now.  Prepare to flame away.  It's the captain as hero.  This is such a tired formula. The hierarchy, the pseudo-military feel, the navy in space. the same old dialogue again and again.  "Set course".  "Engage".  "Fire photon torpodoes". Yada Yada Yada.  It's so lame.  It is lame in trek.  It is lame in Andromeda.  It was nearly lame in Firefly, although they expanded, distorted and played with the captain as hero thing on that show.  It's a tired paradigm and no longer engaging as far as I am concerned.  The whole call and response, crew as extension of the captain's will, yada, yada, yada.  The future is not like this and if it is, I want no part of it.  If you're not a captain, you are merely a cog, a dialogue call and response box.  Perhaps you will say this is merely symptomatic of bad writing, but I think there is a deeper thing going on here.  The most popular sci-fi I have seen in the past ten years has been based on more of a cyber-punk, anti-hero/persecuted man sort of thing.  This "to boldy go where no one has gone before" stuff is not cutting it in a cynical world.


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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2006, 10:55:21 pm »
they could try "Star Trek meets The Matrix"

Imagine a story telling about how the Borg came to be.  A people much like ourselves except that they think it would be cool to be in an alternate machine reality

But what happens when they want more?

sounds very complex and quite interesting if done properly


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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2006, 11:34:58 pm »
You mean like Professor Moriarty exploring virtual space in a virtual shuttlecraft inside a memory module?  I hope it wasn't made by a factory in a land that cares more about immediate profit than quality of the product using underpaid, abused labor... Moriarty would really pay the price, not virutally!

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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2006, 02:13:58 am »
I'll tell you the problem with Trek right now.  Prepare to flame away.  It's the captain as hero.  This is such a tired formula. The hierarchy, the pseudo-military feel, the navy in space. the same old dialogue again and again.  "Set course".  "Engage".  "Fire photon torpodoes". Yada Yada Yada.  It's so lame.  It is lame in trek.  It is lame in Andromeda.  It was nearly lame in Firefly, although they expanded, distorted and played with the captain as hero thing on that show.  It's a tired paradigm and no longer engaging as far as I am concerned.  The whole call and response, crew as extension of the captain's will, yada, yada, yada.  The future is not like this and if it is, I want no part of it.  If you're not a captain, you are merely a cog, a dialogue call and response box.  Perhaps you will say this is merely symptomatic of bad writing, but I think there is a deeper thing going on here.  The most popular sci-fi I have seen in the past ten years has been based on more of a cyber-punk, anti-hero/persecuted man sort of thing.  This "to boldy go where no one has gone before" stuff is not cutting it in a cynical world.


I disagree. Sorry. Everyone gets their own opinion. I don't think the idea is of a Captain as hero is bad. I think the Captain should be a hero, and I wouldn't care much about a ship that was otherwise. The challenge is to make that hero human and vulnerable and not perfect. Same with the crew. They're people, and they have stories to tell.... I think it is just a matter of genre, and which you like.
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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2006, 11:32:02 am »
What they should do (and send me royalties when they do) is have a show basically like Firefly.
Show an ex maquis trying to make it as a smuggler or something. -And have them stay ex maquis, not like Voyager where
they seemlessly integrated unless the discord was needed for a plot point.

I honestly believe (after watching Firefly, BSG and even some SG! episodes) that I probably won't watch another ST series unless they stay away from the "Flagship of the Fleet" "Best Crew " angle.
How many times can you seriously watch a show where (as mentioned) every alien race encountered seems to eventually  decide it would be better to be more like humans. How many times can you watch a show where for all intents and purposes the only race that ever seems to be able to adapt is the human one. -When the Borg were introduced they were cool, the ulitmate bad guys, able to adapt to anything. Been adapting to overcome for ages. Few years later they're seemingly incapable of out adapting one tiny ship.

Smaller scale so the writers don't have to invent a 'Super Enemy"
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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2006, 04:55:24 pm »
they could try "Star Trek meets The Matrix"

Imagine a story telling about how the Borg came to be.  A people much like ourselves except that they think it would be cool to be in an alternate machine reality

But what happens when they want more?

sounds very complex and quite interesting if done properly

I'm imagining a very artistic approach...  anime-styled scenes...  unconventional storylines.... 

Ugh!  I don't know.  I use to like the Movie the Matrix when it came out back in 1999 (consider it one of the best Si Fi stories I ever saw), but now I'm actually a little scared to watch that movie anymore.  Morpheous wasn't kidding when the story said we was there too "Free your mind".  I haven't watched the last one, but the first two movies felt like they wanted to tackle the topic of "what is existance" then trying to make a fun story out of it.   

I don't know, is the Matrix Trilogy really just an "Anime" type Film??
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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2006, 05:08:57 pm »
I think I agree with the points that KBF-Kapact and Hexx stated above.  Ya, the "super captain" role may be a little over done, but then again, in The Original Series of Star Trek it was mostly Kirk, Spock and Mecoy as the main characters.  I don't recall many TOS episodes the doved into topics of the other crew.

And just too point out, the new series of BSG and Stargate do try to do eps similar to waht KBF-Kapact and Hexx suggested.  I think it might be best if Star Trek just took a break for a while, it broke into a lot of new territory in Si Fi, but it has a lot of competition now.
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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2006, 08:37:37 am »
they could try "Star Trek meets The Matrix"

Imagine a story telling about how the Borg came to be.  A people much like ourselves except that they think it would be cool to be in an alternate machine reality

But what happens when they want more?

sounds very complex and quite interesting if done properly


I'm imagining a very artistic approach...  anime-styled scenes...  unconventional storylines.... 

But your thinking of it in too obvious of a way. 

The Borg past and present is portrayed in a way that is inconsistant - so there is a mystery to solve. 

The Borg supposedly wish to assimilate other cultures to improve themselves.  They do so by attempting to totally assimilate the technology and biology of other races.  That is self defeating.  To explain, if they were to attack Kirks Federation and assimilate it they would never gain anything from the future, by raiding it instead they could come back in a century or more and gain once more.  So the question becomes what are the Borg really after?

There is also the Borg strength and weakness to account for.  On the one hand the Federation always survives fighting them on the other Guinans people were forced to scatter across the galaxy to survive.  The same Guinan who makes Q nervous with her power.  How can a race that can scare the Q be defeated by the Borg but the Borg be defeated by the Federation?

It will take a little to get back to the Borg so be patient with the next section I will come back to the Borg.  ;)

Imagine instead the USS Intrepid NCC-38907 (Excelsior class) ship being launched on a very special mission (with a supporting fleet of freighters and liners etc) of indefinite duration.  Survey for duplicate planets and cultures and find their origin.  The Enterprise found planet IV, system 892 with a copy of the Roman Empire whose history matched that of the Earth Roman Empire but one that didn't fall.  The Exeter found the planet Omega IV which was a total copy of Earth up to the late 20th century but more than a 1000 years older than Earth itself. 

Other planets were found to have transplanted cultures from Earth such as the Indians visited by Kirk and protected from an asteroid impact.  The transplanted cultures were moved by a race called the Preservers who seem to attempt to preserve human (and humanoid cultures).  Searching them out would also be part of the Exeters mission.

Next there are the Ur-Humans the creators of the later races and just perhaps also the Preservers or their ancestors. 

Finally there are the Organians, humanoids evolved past a material form.

The questions being:

1/ Who made the duplicate worlds and cultures?
2/ Why?
3/ What connection do these powerful and ancient humanoids have (if any) to the duplicates and humanity?

As the Exeter explores far outside the Federation they would encounter duplicate worlds other than Earth, Klingon, Vulcan and Romulan to name 3.  They might even discover that the twin Romulan worlds are themselves duplicates of Vulcan that met early in their stellar explorations and merged into a united culture.

So what would the Exeter ultimately find out?   

1/ The Ur-Humans are still out there, evolved past the Q.
2/ The Organians are the most advanced along the path the Ur-Humans want humanoids to follow and act as intermediates between the Ur-Humans and the Preservers
3/ The Preservers are an advanced humanoid race (possibly similar to the Talosians) and are well on the way to Organian levels and act under Organian direction to preserve lesser races
4/ The Borg are a tool created by the Preservers to help save lesser races.

Under this outline Guinans people are a small step below the Preservers but were stagnating so the Preservers sent in the Borg (with Preserver enhanced powers to beat them) to disperse them and cause them to develop.  The result is Guinans people have evolved further and the Borg only harrass them to keep them going.

The Borg attacking the Alpha quadrant do so because (like Sargons people before us) the Quadrant is on the verge of the next big technological leap and would destroy themselves in war (like Sargon) unless faced with a common threat to unite against.  The Borg are that threat, difficult but scaled to be beatable with detectable flaws.

Perhaps a complex enought concept to last several seasons.  It also could be based in a duplicate Federation and the Intrepid could meet the Enterprise NX-01 with Captain Archer in charge.  The audience shock when they found there were multiple Federations would be interesting.

It would have the added benefit of curing some continuity errors as Kirks Federation need not be Picards or Archers.
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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2006, 04:17:31 pm »
I still think a series set soon after DS9 involving a group of characters who are brought into the secret spy society of the Federation (the one that involved Dr. Bashir in DS9) and how they deal with various tough issues, grow and change over time would work well.  You could have 8 or 9 key characters, with different initial views, that meet at the start of their "secret spy" career.  They stay in loose contact, and episodes of interest and intrigue with one or more of the characters spin over the galaxy on different ships and sectors of space.
 
If the writing were done correctly, the characters could grow and evolve, making the story fascinating.  Spy stuff can inherently be somewhat action and mystery oriented.  Tough questions can be brought up and a whole new area of Trek could evolve. 

I personally loved the DS9 story where Sisko drew the Romulans into the Dominion war.  Tough ethical issues, done properly, can be very powerful. 

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« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2006, 01:49:26 am »
Riker, Titan...can include cast members from other series (excluding Enterprise)...
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2006, 01:04:59 am »
they could try "Star Trek meets The Matrix"

Imagine a story telling about how the Borg came to be.  A people much like ourselves except that they think it would be cool to be in an alternate machine reality

But what happens when they want more?

sounds very complex and quite interesting if done properly


I'm imagining a very artistic approach...  anime-styled scenes...  unconventional storylines.... 

But your thinking of it in too obvious of a way. 

The Borg past and present is portrayed in a way that is inconsistant - so there is a mystery to solve. 

The Borg supposedly wish to assimilate other cultures to improve themselves.  They do so by attempting to totally assimilate the technology and biology of other races.  That is self defeating.  To explain, if they were to attack Kirks Federation and assimilate it they would never gain anything from the future, by raiding it instead they could come back in a century or more and gain once more.  So the question becomes what are the Borg really after?

There is also the Borg strength and weakness to account for.  On the one hand the Federation always survives fighting them on the other Guinans people were forced to scatter across the galaxy to survive.  The same Guinan who makes Q nervous with her power.  How can a race that can scare the Q be defeated by the Borg but the Borg be defeated by the Federation?

It will take a little to get back to the Borg so be patient with the next section I will come back to the Borg.  ;)

Imagine instead the USS Intrepid NCC-38907 (Excelsior class) ship being launched on a very special mission (with a supporting fleet of freighters and liners etc) of indefinite duration.  Survey for duplicate planets and cultures and find their origin.  The Enterprise found planet IV, system 892 with a copy of the Roman Empire whose history matched that of the Earth Roman Empire but one that didn't fall.  The Exeter found the planet Omega IV which was a total copy of Earth up to the late 20th century but more than a 1000 years older than Earth itself. 

Other planets were found to have transplanted cultures from Earth such as the Indians visited by Kirk and protected from an asteroid impact.  The transplanted cultures were moved by a race called the Preservers who seem to attempt to preserve human (and humanoid cultures).  Searching them out would also be part of the Exeters mission.

Next there are the Ur-Humans the creators of the later races and just perhaps also the Preservers or their ancestors. 

Finally there are the Organians, humanoids evolved past a material form.

The questions being:

1/ Who made the duplicate worlds and cultures?
2/ Why?
3/ What connection do these powerful and ancient humanoids have (if any) to the duplicates and humanity?

As the Exeter explores far outside the Federation they would encounter duplicate worlds other than Earth, Klingon, Vulcan and Romulan to name 3.  They might even discover that the twin Romulan worlds are themselves duplicates of Vulcan that met early in their stellar explorations and merged into a united culture.

So what would the Exeter ultimately find out?   

1/ The Ur-Humans are still out there, evolved past the Q.
2/ The Organians are the most advanced along the path the Ur-Humans want humanoids to follow and act as intermediates between the Ur-Humans and the Preservers
3/ The Preservers are an advanced humanoid race (possibly similar to the Talosians) and are well on the way to Organian levels and act under Organian direction to preserve lesser races
4/ The Borg are a tool created by the Preservers to help save lesser races.

Under this outline Guinans people are a small step below the Preservers but were stagnating so the Preservers sent in the Borg (with Preserver enhanced powers to beat them) to disperse them and cause them to develop.  The result is Guinans people have evolved further and the Borg only harrass them to keep them going.

The Borg attacking the Alpha quadrant do so because (like Sargons people before us) the Quadrant is on the verge of the next big technological leap and would destroy themselves in war (like Sargon) unless faced with a common threat to unite against.  The Borg are that threat, difficult but scaled to be beatable with detectable flaws.

Perhaps a complex enought concept to last several seasons.  It also could be based in a duplicate Federation and the Intrepid could meet the Enterprise NX-01 with Captain Archer in charge.  The audience shock when they found there were multiple Federations would be interesting.

It would have the added benefit of curing some continuity errors as Kirks Federation need not be Picards or Archers.



Oh wow, I love this idea!  I think it's deep enough to make a mini/maxi series (a season of hour-and-a-half episodes, bi-weekly, and each season separated by a year or so to tell the story in the propper scope).  The idea of a show that meanders along aimlessly for 7 years is an old one, and one that Star Trek has evolved past.  The fans want and need a huge story, one that can play on and use the massive back story of the entire series to augment a new story, evolve an old one, and forge new territory entirely.

One quibble I have with using the Intrepid is that a lot of the same names are used throughout the Trek universe.  It's an interesting idea, however a human-centric one.  The Federation at the time of the Excelsior-class comprises of 125 species.  Using *another* Earth name (Intrepid) for such a far-reaching mission seems to me to send the wrong message.  Of course, I can't think of another name lol!

Also, including a fleeet of support freighters and liners seems to doom the expedition to failure.  the Excelsior can do warp 9.2 out of the dock, but most freighters are likely limited to warp 5 and are pitifully armed.  However, sending a battle fleet with carriers, battle tugs, battlecruiser flagship and smalller frigate and destroyer support ships may undermine the purpose of the entire mission, inciting attack by wary empires fearing such a formidable force.  The first option could very easily degenerate into a Battlestar Galactica clone; the latter more closely resembling Babylon 5.

I'd watch either one, so long as it was shot more like Sci-Fi Channel's Dune series than Star Trek.  It would just rock to get cutting-edge camera work and effects to back up stellar stories.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2006, 06:21:06 pm »
One quibble I have with using the Intrepid is that a lot of the same names are used throughout the Trek universe.  It's an interesting idea, however a human-centric one.  The Federation at the time of the Excelsior-class comprises of 125 species.  Using *another* Earth name (Intrepid) for such a far-reaching mission seems to me to send the wrong message.  Of course, I can't think of another name lol!

The original Intrepid had a crew of 400 Vulcans.  It could easily be presented that the name Intrepid was the translation from the original Vulcan by the Universal Translator.

Also, including a fleeet of support freighters and liners seems to doom the expedition to failure.  the Excelsior can do warp 9.2 out of the dock, but most freighters are likely limited to warp 5 and are pitifully armed.  However, sending a battle fleet with carriers, battle tugs, battlecruiser flagship and smalller frigate and destroyer support ships may undermine the purpose of the entire mission, inciting attack by wary empires fearing such a formidable force.  The first option could very easily degenerate into a Battlestar Galactica clone; the latter more closely resembling Babylon 5.

The idea of the support fleet was to allow the mission to extend to decades if needed.  Remember this is no Enterprise D equiped for families.  What do you do when your Vulcans report that they are entering Pon farr?  Transfer them the Vulcan liner for the duration.

To flesh out the fleet if I was using SFB/SFC for the ships I would have NCL based scouts and DDGs for firepower.  Repair and factory freighters to supply the fleet as needed.  The Intrepid would be a Galactic Survey Cruiser.  Liners for families and recreation.  Possibly even towing along a couple of FRDs.  I'd equip the fleet with P/Fs for defense and research missions (attrition craft - major ships would be irreplacable).

Basically the idea was that the Scouts would range ahead and off to the sides finding the interesting stuff when the Intrepid would be called in.  The fleet would be kept well back in previously explored areas, which doesn't mean that they couldn't run into unexpected troubles. The Intrepid would mostly be with the fleet.  The action would be out front with the 1st contacts - which sometimes would mean the Intrepid would be called in by the Scouts.

Each episode need not use the same crew.  One episode a Scout is out exploring and runs into something "interesting" and resolves it, next episode might result in calling in the Intrepid and several destroyers or a repair freighter to solve issues of an alien encounter.  It would need a more diverse set of actors but that diversity would allow more flexibility if actors left or returned.   A helmsman is missing?   Transferred to another ship as 1st officer.    The Intrepids Captain is making a movie that ran over time?  Film episodes that don't use the Intrepid.
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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2006, 08:56:07 pm »
I always thought an anthology series would be cool. Different characters each week, anybody can die.

A Romulus story during the Romulan War. Charlie Evans' early life on Thasus or his later life there. Spock's childhood, no time travel required. O'Brien & Stumpy serving under Captain Maxwell. Sarek's first trip to Earth. Young Harry Mudd adventures. Captain Pike's Academy days. The EMH from the distant future trying to get back to Earth.

There are hundreds of ideas. Just crack open your Star Trek Chronology or Star Trek Encyclopedia & think of a few!

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« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2006, 04:53:25 pm »
The EMH from the distant future trying to get back to Earth.

But.... I thought the EMH did make it back too Earth in the last Ep of Voyager???   :huh:   :huh:   :huh:

An interesting suggestion for a Star Trek Show, but it would require a lot of Actors too play there parts in the past.  And didn't the guy that played Surak in Star Trek die a few years ago?
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« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2006, 02:34:01 pm »
The Backup module for the EMH was stolen by a Delta Quadrant species.  Centuries after they stole it, the finally figured out how to activate it.  By that time their version of what had happened when they stole the module had been greatly distorted, and they didn't even know what they had until the EMH showed up.  After correcting the distortion, the EMH served as the planet's Surgeon General before retiring, purchasing a ship, and heading off after Voyager.  We're probably looking at a 34th Century Federation by the time he gets there.
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« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2006, 09:19:38 pm »
Wow!  There are a few eps of Voyager I missed, and I think this might have been one of them.  Feel sorry for the Doctor, seems like he is always running into unfortunete situations.
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« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2006, 10:49:58 pm »
Actually was a pretty well done episode, if you didn't mind seeing Voyager and Co. portrayed as heartless savages.  See...the people that stole the Back-up Module and other things (even a Photon Torpedo) were petty thugs, who eventrually came to power after Voyager had moved on.  When the Doctor corrected the Lies...the house of cards fell apart.
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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2006, 03:02:12 am »
Hmm.... I guess I would have too try too see this Ep of Voyager then.  I did see one ep once where some "Thugs" (I don't know what exactly they were, a few Delta Quadrant Races impersonating a few of the Voyager crew, and were doing it quite poorly) were taking advantage of Voyagers Situation and stealing stuff.  Was this the same group?  This race that had the EMH, what were some of the "lies" that they thought Voyager did?
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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2006, 07:58:34 am »
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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2007, 09:01:17 pm »
I'll tell you the problem with Trek right now. .... The hierarchy, the pseudo-military feel, the navy in space. the same old dialogue again and again. "Set course". "Engage". "Fire photon torpodoes". Yada Yada Yada. .

You may be on to something.  For a long time, popular scifi seems to say that in the future, the military/govt will be in charge.  Thats where the stories seem to come from.
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« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2007, 02:38:41 pm »

I don't know, is the Matrix Trilogy really just an "Anime" type Film??

No, because Matrix was good, and anime is utter crap. ;)
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« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2007, 08:58:58 pm »
The ideal new Star Trek series should be set in the mid 2160's, when the UFP is only a few years old and finding its feet. Obviuously there'd be no Romulans because they'd been defeated in 2160 and gone away for a century long sulk until the "Balance of Terror" TOS episode.

Then again, ENT ended only a year short of the Earth - Romulan War kicking off, and did show the build up of tensions between Earth and The Romulan Star Empire, due to Star Fleet's interference in Romulan plans to cause a war between Andor and Tellar, letting them fight it out and then annexing both of them.

If there is a new Star Trek movie or mini-series, then it should be set during the Romulan War. It would certainly parallel some of the space battles in BSG with all the salvoes of "Atomic Missiles" flying around.

They did leave ENT hinting at the coming War!!

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« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2007, 11:21:51 pm »
Seeing as this thread was a year and a half dead when hit with the paddles, is it possible that what someone originally thought was rumor of a new Trek series was actually rumor of the new Trek movie?
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« Reply #51 on: December 25, 2007, 08:57:45 pm »
what i have herd is that they have 2 more movies planned (and i may be rong in this) the 1st will be out some time in 2008 and will be a preqeul of the TOS with Kirk and Spak at Star fleat academy (which i think will be sh*t mainly cos i hate preqeuls) an im not sure about the 2nd iv also been told that the will be NO MORE star trek series because of the slow decent of ratings)
which was made obvious by the last star trek series

TNG - 7 series
DS9 - 7 series
STV - 7 series
Enterprise - 4 series

Even the last movie did poor comperd the the last ones like 1st contact & Gens
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« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2008, 12:34:22 am »
Alot of those ideas are awesome!  I really like the Idea of a Klingon Civil War.  Maybe that's what Star Trek needs... Do a different race. Klingon or Romulan based show. 

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« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2008, 01:06:26 am »
Alot of those ideas are awesome!  I really like the Idea of a Klingon Civil War.  Maybe that's what Star Trek needs... Do a different race. Klingon or Romulan based show. 

Or along that line do a series set in the alternate timeline created by the Enterprise C when it disappeared into the time rift of "Yesterday's Enterprise"  Finally a Federation/Klingon TMP/Pre-TNG war. Blasted Organians.
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Re: Another Trek TV Series?
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2008, 03:10:48 pm »
I like the idea of a Klingon based series, say during the Klingo-Romulan War.  I can see it now:  The ship is an old D-7c w/ a pair of expendable gunboats.  In the series premier, you just borrow a huge chunk from The Cain Mutiny.  Substitute prunes (loot taken from a smuggler) for strawberries, it's a great incident in the book, and have the captain make a complete *** (donkey) of himself.  In battle, the captain shows cowardice, and the first officer kills him with her knife.
    With the new captain, the ship is reassigned to the Federation boarder.  They violate Federation space all through the series, but during the premier, they capture a smuggler with some wonderful Romulan loot, including cloaking devices.  The smuggler happens to be human, and since his ship was confiscated, he is given the choice between enlisting in the Klingon Deep Space Fleet, and walking home.
     The Smuggler makes friend with a Romulan, who enlisted in much the same way, and the two are constantly trying to escape.  The Klingons primary mission is to keep the Federation sufficiently intimidated as not to open a second front, i.e, "Peace through strength."  This allows a nice view of humanity from an alien perspective.  I think it could be suspenseful and hilarious.  Did I mention violent?  Ooh, Yeah!  Lots of starships, too!
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