Topic: Wars that Should Have Been..

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

"Is the idea that
1) Kzin and Fed won't work because everyone would fly against Feds
2) Klinks & Lyrans vs Feds & someone would work better because all those coaltion players that were going to fly
    againts the Feds under idea one will now fly..against the Feds..??"

If you pick option two, the Feds side has a chance to pick up some support. There are those who aren't that comfortable flying fed who would fly Mirak/Kzinti or Hydran. You could also enquire as to how comfortable the klngons would be with a K vs. F & M. That might generate more balanced activity.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

"PS   LOL @ toronto"

Ottawa must be breathing a sigh of relief. Not having to deal with the Leafs upsetting them once again in the playoffs. Maybe a new team that has been dominated by the Sens in the regular season will kick their butts in place of the Leafs. 

I am actually concerned frickin Boston might somehow possibly squeak in... 

What you talkin' about Willis?     The Bruins are 10 points back of 8th with about a dozen games left. Unless Atlanta and Montreals' planes crash, Boston and Toronto will be golfing shortly. I'd put money on the panthers making it before the Bruins. I think I have 2 cents laying around.

[Hexx]

I know it's all but impossible, but those damn Bostonians are about the only team in the East with a winning record vs the Sens..

I don't understand it either

[Soreyes]

~ Kzin vs Hydran

Only if you have a big map, no disengagement rule, and unlimited choice of ships allowed to fleet three ships.

Why?

Just to see how fast we can make t00l have a total mental breakdown 

WOW Three ship fleets.  Hmmmmmmm  Soreyes controlling a three ship squadron of Z-DF's

[Hexx]

we had 47 people show up for the first night of KCW.  we can still drum up players for a big event, keeping their interest in a server after the initial kickoff is what eludes me.

That said, I think we need a little more variety in the next seriosu campaing than a 2 races server.

Actually missed this earlier..

We will have something with a little more variety , we have Burt's Pirate Thingy coming up, and I believe
Jeff mentioned something about Storm Season 3 (or is it 2...) also believe Dizzy mentioned another Slave Girls server (though I'm not sure if he meant he was actually working on it or not)

Or maybe we could do Operation Cavalry, which never really got off the ground..

Oh and one of hte main reasons for the 47 peeps and the initial rush was Chuut's (and other's) recruiting of
old timer players.
The inability to keep everyone interested was due to poor server setup.

I do learn from my mistakes. (I make so few of them it's easy to)

[FPF-DieHard]

Ever notice how canucks can be fighting, and a hockey game breaks out?

[NuclearWessels]

...

I am actually concerned frickin Boston might somehow possibly squeak in... 

<sigh>  I wish.  Tough times for Bruin fans (though it was cool to have Neely at the Giants game here a couple of weeks back.)

dave

[GDA-Agave]

Ever notice how canucks can be fighting, and a hockey game breaks out?

That's almost as bad as a Dynaverse thread turning into a hockey discussion.   


Back on topic.   A 2v2 server would be great.   I would like to see the races include both non-plasma and plasma on both sides.  Example F, G vs K, R.   Any mix of races would do. (even the ISC  )  Let's just include some plasma races since the last few servers have been centered in the Western empires.   Come on!!  Ya know ya wanna!!

PLASMA CHUCKERS UNITE!!!

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Gorns are the least represented race of late. Sorry, but true. 3 legitimate Gorns are the best that I have seen on a server in a long time. You need klingons willing to fly as roms and feds flying as gorn.

[Dfly]

I know not everyone was happy with the wild goose system but it did what it was designed to do.  Could we not use this with Feds vs Klinks?    Also, since I would normally fly any race other than Fed, I would want to be Klink but I also know there is no numbers in Feds anymore so I would fly Feds just for that  reason.  Perhaps there would be a few other pilots out there that would be willing to fly Feds for say 2 weeks.  I know the Mirror Mirror had a lot of peops fly Feds that normally dont.  If you are trying to make numbers more in line with a 4 way, try FED_ROM vs KLINK_GORN.  not a usual pairing, but numbers may be closer to each other.

[Hexx]

How did a thread involving my genius and hockey get turned into some wannbe lovin for the plasma boys?
Not to say anything's wrong with plasma.. but maybe if you can't develop a Heavy Weapon that moves faster than spd 36
you should stick to crocheting pillow covers there momma's boy.


Anyway, ideas, thoughts..

~ I like the idea of the Kzin/Fed server. I'm not sure I like the idea of another 4 powers war server. Mainly because I (personally) had
   wanted to center the heavy units around the Carriers groups. No other race, and certainly no other two races can match Kzin & Fed
   pre 80. Still it's kinda pointless to build a server that only a few will fly on so I'll think about it, maybe I can think of something.
  (F-14's for Lyrans might be the answer I guess...)

~ I'd like to also do an "OPAndro" invasion server. I'm pretty comvinced we can't do Andro's right of course but fitted out with tons of
   those beam weapon things and lots of labs + sat ships I thinkw e could get close. Server would essentially be a C vs A server, with a pre selected number
   of pilots from each side running the Andro's attacking the other side. Also thought of a kinda Operation Unity idea where the two sides are "allies" but racing
   to see who can hack through to the Andros Mag clouds base first. Again pilots from the Opposite coaltion would fly the Andros

~ Still have plans for Op Cav (if I can ever convince DH to stop snivelling about no unlimited Fed DNH's)
   Essentially it's morphed from whatver it was before (like I remember) to a Ca based server with very strict OOB on the Heavy Metal
   Server would center around Klink/Feds, but other races would have their expeditionary fleets around.
   Basiclly along the same idea as KCW, the big ships would be set up in accounts before the server started, once it's lost in battle it's gone for good
   There would be BP's for different replacement ships, Not by any means alot of bok keeping, but thre would be some.
   This would likely be a 1week (maybe 2, doubt it) server as again tech progression would be limited.
   Or I suppose it could run as a longer " 5 year mission" along the Fed/Klink border.. hmmm

[NuclearWessels]

Ever notice how canucks can be fighting, and a hockey game breaks out?

That's almost as bad as a Dynaverse thread turning into a hockey discussion.   
...

Well alrightee then, I guess we'll just have to blend the two ... what would a dyna hockey game look like?

Seems to me the pre-PF Gorn would make good Broadstreet Bullies, and the fusion-era Hydrans would make a good trapping team (a real pain if you have to take the fight to them) ...

hmmmm ... going to have to think about this

dave

[Hexx]

It's obvious the Lyrans would be the Sens, an all round excellent team with few flaws.Dangerous in almost any siruation

Feds would have to be the Leafs, a number of over the hill players who still reminisce about their glory days

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

The Sens? That's the team who can never advance in the playoffs when they run into the leafs, post season.  Hopefully the Ottawa trainors are ready to employ the heimlich maneuver when the Sens start choking in the playoffs. 

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

It's obvious the Lyrans would be the Sens, an all round excellent team with few flaws.Dangerous in almost any siruation

Feds would have to be the Leafs, a number of over the hill players who still reminisce about their glory days

Somehow thinking of the combination of Canadians, Hockey, Lyrans, and the Dynaverse gives me a slightly different picture......



 

[GDA-S'Cipio]

"Is the idea that
1) Kzin and Fed won't work because everyone would fly against Feds
2) Klinks & Lyrans vs Feds & someone would work better because all those coaltion players that were going to fly
    againts the Feds under idea one will now fly..against the Feds..??"

If you pick option two, the Feds side has a chance to pick up some support. There are those who aren't that comfortable flying fed who would fly Mirak/Kzinti or Hydran. You could also enquire as to how comfortable the klngons would be with a K vs. F & M. That might generate more balanced activity.

Maybe Hexx should run one of his famous polls on the Fed/Kzin server idea.  I don't think it would automatically be one-sided.  I can't imagine that the Feds wouldn't pick up a lot of players in that one.   I'd certainly fly Fed for it.  Other typical Lyran, Hydran, Gorn, and Romulan might as well.

If you make it one of the early Fed/Kzin wars, the Kzin won't even have to bother turning off their disruptors.   

-S'Cipio

[GDA-S'Cipio]

Gorns are the least represented race of late. Sorry, but true. 3 legitimate Gorns are the best that I have seen on a server in a long time. You need klingons willing to fly as roms and feds flying as gorn.

This has been true lately, but it isn't necesarily relevant in a server with limited race selections.  In servers where players are allowed to "race whore" you see quite a lot of Gorn for limited amounts of time, as the situation calls for it.   The same is true for all the races.

If the Alliance choice is Fed/Gorn, you'll likely see more Gorn than you would in an 8 race game.


-S'Cipio

[Hexx]

... I forgot all about being able to set up polls... new one coming in a second!

My concern at the moment with the mixed race servers is simply the fact that all of you
snivelling wretches have taken to flying mixed fleets, combining wgatver two best ships you can get.
You can make rules about it, but when it comes down to it on the server you're going to
have situations where t00l and DH (names completely picked at random) just happen to accidenetly draft each other time and time again when they're not supposed to.

That and I'm obsessed with carrier tactics atm, and really the Lyrans and Klinks don't stack up well until 80ish.

[FPF-AJTK]

The Dread Pirate Hexx? When did they install a booster seat on the poop deck?

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Dread? I thought it said dead.....