Topic: Will Vista Suck? (Read 7829 times)

Mr_Tricorder · « **on:** March 08, 2006, 10:20:07 pm »

Here's an article from www.extremetech.com called "Why Windows Vista Won't Suck"
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1931914,00.asp

and here's a rebuttal by Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols from www.desktoplinux.com
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8288296398.html

I side with Vaughan-Nichols on this one. When I first read the extremetech article, there were a few things that came to mind that Vaughan-Nichols addresses.

Javora · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2006, 09:37:24 am »

Well given your preference toward anything Linux I'm not really surprised. I will say that Nichols article did hold my attention from start to finish, something Extremetech has a hard time doing for me regardless of the article it posts. In fact had an easier time reading the comments about the article than Extremetech's article itself. The problem is that unless Linux can some way play HD-DVD's let alone legally (in the US anyway) regular DVD's or Games, Microsoft is (sadly) still the only game in town. Now that might not matter to some people but lets face it we are posting on a gaming site, so I'm guessing that games matter to some people here like me.

Given that I don't currently run a Linux OS on my system I have to take Nichols word that Linux Audio programs have some catching up to do compaired to Windows. Well IMHO Linux could also trim down the number of Linux distros out there, make the installation and file system more user friendly. It could also legally allow DVD playback and have gaming support (and not just for servers) in the US, wait that would require DRM support... *Sigh*. I've only written three sentences and I can already see why Linux is not a common place in desktops and Laptops across the US. I want Linux to succeed, to that end people like us need to push Linux and the people behind Linux to make it the OS that people really want. Otherwise Linux will continue to be the niche OS that it is.

Sorry if I'm offending anyone but that is just the way I see it. Linux needs work, a lot of work, but it also needs our support.

Dracho · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2006, 10:54:58 am »

Re: Will Vista Suck?

Will the Pope wear a pointy hat?

prometheus · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2006, 05:31:44 pm »

In a word, yes it will...

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #4 on:** March 09, 2006, 07:11:54 pm »

I'll still use it. I'm happy with windows XP. Last time any of my computers at work or home crashed was probably 6 months ago. And that was a minor crash.

Then again, I spent weeks tweaking my systems to make sure they have good performance and stability.

Commander Maxillius · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2006, 12:15:55 pm »

Linux is the anti-DRM, thus it would be stupid to build DRM support into it.

Verroc · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2006, 01:15:57 pm »

Will Vista Suck?

In ways we cant yet even begin to imagine!

Nemesis · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2006, 01:19:54 pm »

If you upgrade your system(s) incrementally like I do Vista will suck as any time you replace the motherboard you have to factor in the cost of a new full install of Windows. XP activation kept me from converting to XP (except the laptop I bought before Christmas which came with XP). New Motherboard = New Windows will block me from using Vista. Hasta la Vista Microsoft.

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2006, 05:18:55 pm »

The real question is will it blow...

Nemesis · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2006, 06:59:34 pm »

Quote from: Punisher NCC-2000 on March 18, 2006, 05:18:55 pm

The real question is will it blow...

It will be "gay as the wind", it'll blow anybody - even you.

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2006, 07:57:27 pm »

So the wind is gay now? No wonder whenever a good breeze gets going I have the sudden urge to go shopping at Saks.

Nemesis · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2006, 06:40:31 pm »

Quote from: Punisher NCC-2000 on March 20, 2006, 07:57:27 pm

urge to go shopping at Saks.

What is a "Saks"?

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2006, 08:31:13 pm »

Sacks? Saks? You know Saks fifth avenue.

Some expensive store I've never been too.

Mr_Tricorder · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2006, 11:51:40 pm »

I've been to a Saks with my girlfriend in the Galleria mall in Houston. They've got some fruity stuff there, and it's expensive as hell. The employees there took one look at our casual non-designer t-shirt, jeans, and worn-out sneakers and promptly ignored us and waited impatiently for us to leave.

Dracho · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2006, 09:12:34 am »

Quote from: Mr_Tricorder on March 21, 2006, 11:51:40 pm

I've been to a Saks with my girlfriend in the Galleria mall in Houston. They've got some fruity stuff there, and it's expensive as hell. The employees there took one look at our casual non-designer t-shirt, jeans, and worn-out sneakers and promptly ignored us and waited impatiently for us to leave.

You should go up to one and ask where the sacks are. Tell them you came to buy some sacks, but all you can find are clothes and appliances and crap. Where are the sacks?

Promise you it'll be worth it.

GE-Raven · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2006, 09:59:37 am »

Quote from: IKV Nemesis on March 18, 2006, 01:19:54 pm

If you upgrade your system(s) incrementally like I do Vista will suck as any time you replace the motherboard you have to factor in the cost of a new full install of Windows. XP activation kept me from converting to XP (except the laptop I bought before Christmas which came with XP). New Motherboard = New Windows will block me from using Vista. Hasta la Vista Microsoft.

Huh? That isn't how I understand it... of course we just have a Microsoft Site license, and have been talking implementation with a two MS techs.

What would they know...

:-)

GE-Raven

Dracho · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2006, 11:38:54 am »

Well, it won't suck until 2007 now.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060322/D8GGMPVG0.html

Sirgod · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2006, 12:44:49 pm »

just beat me to IT Draco...

Microsoft has delayed the release of its forthcoming Windows Vista operating system to 2007.

Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin in a conference call said that the company decided to push back the release date of the consumer version of the operating system because computer manufacturers required more time to test and prepare their systems.

Delays have plagued the operating system throughout its development. The software was originally planned as an upgrade to Windows XP and was expected to come out in 2003. Development however was delayed after Microsoft decided to add features and pulled developers off the project to work on the security oriented Service Pack 2 update for Windows XP.

The decision to delay the release of the consumer version of Windows Vista will cause the software to miss the 2006 holiday shopping season. That could have a negative impact on PCs sales for this year, analyst firm Gartner warned earlier this month.

source:
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2152422/microsoft-delays-windows-vista

from ms
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/mar06/03-21WindowsVistaDeliveryPR.mspx

Business availability for Windows Vista in November 2006, consumer availability in January 2007.
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Stephen

Mr_Tricorder · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2006, 01:30:59 pm »

I had a strong feeling that Vista would get at least one more delay before it got released.

You could say, "It's been five years since the last version of Windows was released, what does one or two more months matter?" However, missing the holiday season is a BIG deal. I don't think Vista will catch on quite as quickly because of this since now nobody is going to be buying a nice shiny brand new computer with Windows Vista pre-installed for Christmas. Since I would much prefer to hang on to XP for my Windows needs, I consider this a good thing.

Nemesis · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2006, 04:17:35 pm »

Quote from: GE-Raven on March 22, 2006, 09:59:37 am

Quote from: IKV Nemesis on March 18, 2006, 01:19:54 pm
If you upgrade your system(s) incrementally like I do Vista will suck as any time you replace the motherboard you have to factor in the cost of a new full install of Windows. XP activation kept me from converting to XP (except the laptop I bought before Christmas which came with XP). New Motherboard = New Windows will block me from using Vista. Hasta la Vista Microsoft.

Huh? That isn't how I understand it... of course we just have a Microsoft Site license, and have been talking implementation with a two MS techs.

What would they know...

:-)

GE-Raven

Link to Microsoft doc file on Microsofts site.

Quote from that file

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An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer." Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from one computer to another. Therefore, if the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect then a new computer has been created, the original license expires, and a new full operating system license (not upgrade) is required. This is true even if the computer is covered under Software Assurance or other Volume License programs

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12. If I upgrade some of my PC components, do I have to purchase a new operating system?
ANSWER. The answer depends on the components that are upgraded or changed in the PC. The operating system licenses must remain with the device that retains the motherboard, chipsets, and chassis that include the serial number of the device. The operating system may be installed on a new/replacement hard drive as long as the operating system is first removed from the old hard drive.

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