Topic: I'm back !!! Now working on another OP Enhancement Package... (Read 2127 times)

Pestalence_XC · « **on:** February 28, 2006, 06:18:12 am »

Hi all,

I have returned and I have a new computer.. after installing 30 GB of software, I am ready to make another OP Enhancement Package, this time using a Purchased Pro version of Click Team Installer.. this means no ad page at the end of the installer..

Anyhow, so far the only thing I have seen to be updated for the package is the mission scripts to include the Tracey G scripts added to The Forge server..

Other than that, have there been any other updates?

Anyhow, glad to be back in the community and it is wonderful to see everyone here.. I want to thank all of you who helped me out and those that also posted in my happy birthday thread.. I should have an OP Enhancement Package v3.3 available and ready for Download this coming Thursday...

Anyhow.. Have fun guys and thanks for your best wishes..

C-Los · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2006, 06:30:23 am »

Welcome back !

KBF-Kurok · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2006, 09:02:37 am »

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2006, 12:59:26 pm »

Age · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2006, 03:02:11 pm »

Welcome Back Pestalence.

Bonk · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2006, 06:09:23 am »

Coolness!

(NSIS, everybody's using it, it'll make ya feel good!

It continues to grow in popularity and capability. The download and patch capabilites might be particularly handy for the enhancement pack...)

Sorry, just had to throw that in there, use what works for ya, I'm just a rabid NSIS fan and push it at every opportunity.

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2006, 11:08:08 am »

Quote from: Bonk on March 01, 2006, 06:09:23 am

Coolness!

(NSIS, everybody's using it, it'll make ya feel good! It continues to grow in popularity and capability. The download and patch capabilites might be particularly handy for the enhancement pack...)

Sorry, just had to throw that in there, use what works for ya, I'm just a rabid NSIS fan and push it at every opportunity.

I use NSIS for some of the installers.. it makes a great packager for the scripts, however Install Creator rechecks all install files for duplication and thus uses a copy method instead of packaging each and every individual file.. thus it works great for model packages...

Using NSIS for a model pack for the D2 models High Res, the package is 82 MB.. using the Install Creator, the model package is 64 MB.. that is a big difference...

on top of that, Install Creator can still compress most of the NSIS installers.. take Chris Jones UAW mod.. I was building a version that worked with OP Enhancement..

His original version was just over 1 GB to get the DL and updates.. I put it all into 1 package and made an installer with OP Enhancement included that was 486 MB using Install Creator .. when I tried with NSIS, the package was 628 MB.. Install Creator works great for models.. I use them in combination with each other.. plus the Install Creator allows me to utilize command line functions easily just like using batch files, this way i can string multiple installs in order..

but to each their own.. I like using both for where their capabilities are maxed out.

Bonk · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2006, 01:05:27 pm »

Quote from: Pestalence_XC on March 01, 2006, 11:08:08 am

... however Install Creator rechecks all install files for duplication and thus uses a copy method instead of packaging each and every individual file...

Most interesting... I must check that out. Thanks for the info!

(I assume you made these comparisons using a "SetCompressor /SOLID /FINAL lzma" in the NSIS installer...)

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2006, 02:21:10 pm »

Quote from: Bonk on March 01, 2006, 01:05:27 pm

Quote from: Pestalence_XC on March 01, 2006, 11:08:08 am
... however Install Creator rechecks all install files for duplication and thus uses a copy method instead of packaging each and every individual file...

Most interesting... I must check that out. Thanks for the info!

(I assume you made these comparisons using a "SetCompressor /SOLID /FINAL lzma" in the NSIS installer...)

yeppers.. I use the maximum compression available, which is why i use install Creator for models.. the personal edition does not have a compression selection menu, thus it only uses the basic/easiest compression.. in the Pro version, I set it to maximum compression..

now comparing NSIS to Install Creator Personal.. NSIS wins hands down..

Comparing Pro version to NSIS, they both have their strong points.

That is why i use both.

MelbuFrahma · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2006, 02:38:07 pm »

hey old buddy.. !!

check your PM's hehehe

Chris Jones · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2006, 04:44:08 pm »

Hey Pesty! Love to talk to ya.. Speaking of UAW, have you seen the roster on the Dynaverse?

FYI, I have a team working on balancing a CUGS version of UAW, and I'll be addressing bugs on the Dynaverse Shiplist. When all is said and done, can we (you) do up an installer for the whole thing..

Models-specs-batch files-audio (including music).

It'll be a while yet as both shiplists are still in beta..

Welcome Back!!

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2006, 07:20:18 pm »

Quote from: Chris Jones on March 01, 2006, 04:44:08 pm

Hey Pesty! Love to talk to ya.. Speaking of UAW, have you seen the roster on the Dynaverse?

FYI, I have a team working on balancing a CUGS version of UAW, and I'll be addressing bugs on the Dynaverse Shiplist. When all is said and done, can we (you) do up an installer for the whole thing..

Models-specs-batch files-audio (including music).

It'll be a while yet as both shiplists are still in beta..

Welcome Back!!

Sure can do.. NP here on doing that..

IIRC, you may want to take time and adjust the shiplist with Excel and put the UAW models outside the Models directory.. IIRC, about 4 of the *.mod files for UAW overwrote the original OP model locations.. that is one thing my installer did was back up the original models and then installed the UAW models.. but editing the shiplist to point to a different directory.. as well as adjusting the model.siz file to show the same locations.. this would save ton's during the install process.. little difference to the installer creation, but the install process would go much faster.

basically all you would have to do is put all your models into a UAW folder in the Models Directory and put the path to

Assets\models\uaw\[name of model folder here]\*.mod

instead of

Assets\models\[name of model folder here]\*.mod

that is my only recommendation to stream line the install process.. the copy - move - delete - create folder - copy - move - delete method may be too taxing on some HDDs which is how it is installing with my last installer package... it really jams up a system for a good 3 to 10 min on the models alone because of decompressing, then another 5 to 10 min moving files and directories.. that is a lot of batch file writing..

anyhow.. just a suggestion...

but once you have a distributable version ready.. I'll compile it in stand alone (SFC OP Out of Box to UAW Full Installer), a SFC v2552 Upgrade (versions without mods but patched to v2552), and OP Enhancement version UAW for games already using OP Enhancement.. and finally an all in one that includes OP Enhancement and UAW for use on out of box SFC install...

will that work?

CaptJosh · « **Reply #12 on:** March 02, 2006, 10:02:06 am »

Geeze Pesty. You don't know how to ease back in to things slowly, do you?

Good to have you back, ole buddy. I've missed our teamspeak conversations and flying with you. Hopefully, soon I'll be able to actually fly again. My roommate helps run an ISP and while I have internet right now through his direct link to his office, Qwest Business Services needs to get its collective head out of its ass and fix the 5 routable IPs Sparks is supposed to have before I can get one of those and actually open the ports I need for Dyna play. Sparks won't open them on his personal network because of the kind of programming work he does.

Bonk · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2006, 09:49:00 am »

Heya Pestalence... check this one out:

http://upx.sourceforge.net/

I just came across it while working on building firefox. Might come in handy for our SFC stuff?

also:

http://www.7-zip.org/

http://compression.ca/act/index.html

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