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By Chief Journalist Michael Foutch, Task Force Uniform Public Affairs

WASHINGTON (NNS) -- Outfitting the Sailor of the future took another step forward last week when Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Mullen approved plans for a single working uniform for all ranks and a year-round service uniform for E-6 and below Sailors.

Based on recommendations made during a comprehensive briefing by Task Force Uniform Feb. 24, Mullen agreed to production of both a BDU-style working uniform for all Sailors E-1 to O-10 and a more practical, year-round service uniform to withstand day-to-day classroom and office-like environments where the service uniform is typically worn.

“These are good uniforms, designed to support the modern Sailor,” said Mullen. “Durability, safety, ease of wear and cleaning were all factors that weighed heavily on my mind, as did, quite frankly, the survey data and the opinions of wear testers. This wasn’t a popularity contest by any stretch, but we would have been foolish not to consider the opinions of the men and women who will wear these uniforms.”

The BDU-style working uniform, designed to replace seven different styles of current working uniforms, is made of a near maintenance-free permanent press 50/50 nylon and cotton blend. Worn with a blue cotton t-shirt, it will include an eight-point cover, a black web belt with closed buckle, and black smooth leather boots, with black suede no-shine boots for optional wear while assigned to non-shipboard commands.

“When I walk down the piers, I see a Sailors standing watch as a pier sentry in January and it's 30 degrees and freezing rain,” Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (SS/AW) Terry Scott said. “You have to ask yourself, does the uniform that we currently issue protect us, and the answer is no.”

To meet the all-weather requirement, the new working uniform will include several cold weather options, such as a unisex pullover sweater, a fleece jacket, and a parka. It will also be made in three variants, all in a multi-color digital print pattern: predominately blue, with some gray, for the majority of Sailors and shipboard use; and a woodland digital pattern and a desert digital pattern for Sailors serving in units requiring those types of uniforms.

“The intent of TFU always has been to give our Sailors a uniform in which they can work comfortably everyday and is more appropriate for the joint environment in which we operate,” Scott said. “Even better, we’ve created a uniform that’s also easier to maintain, is longer lasting, helps reduce the size of the sea bag, while at the same time recognizing the tradition and heritage of serving in the Navy.”

The service uniform for E-6 and below is comprised of a short-sleeve khaki shirt for males and an over-blouse for females, made from a wash and wear 75/25 polyester and wool blend, with permanent military creases, black trousers for males with belt less slacks for females and optional belt less skirt, and a black unisex garrison cap. Silver anodized-metal rank insignia will be worn on shirt/blouse collars and cap. The service uniform will also include a black relaxed-fit Eisenhower-style jacket with a knit stand-up collar and epaulets, on which petty officers will wear large, silver anodized-metal rank insignia. Those entitled to wear gold chevrons will continue to wear gold chevrons on the large metal rank insignia on the jacket.

“In our research, we found the group most dissatisfied with their present uniforms were E-6 and below,” Scott said.

The manner of wear for both of these new uniforms remains under development by TFU and will not be effective until guidelines on prescribed wear are incorporated in the Navy Uniform Regulations.

“There are a lot of concerns about the manner of wear for the working and service uniforms that we need to address, so we have a smooth transition when the time comes,” TFU Director CNO-Directed Command Master Chief Robert Carroll said.

The working uniform and service uniform are not expected to be available for purchase and wear until late fall of 2007, after which they will be introduced to Recruit Training Command and eventually distributed to the rest of the fleet. Details on when the uniforms will be available for purchase and wear at specific geographic locations will be released at a future date.

Until the new uniforms are available for wear, all existing uniform regulations will apply. During the expected two-year transition period, Sailors will be required to maintain a complete inventory of sea bag items with each reflecting a professional appearance.

“We want our Sailors to keep a professional appearance,” Carroll said. “We don’t want people wearing worn-out uniforms because they’re waiting for the new ones to hit the shelves.”

Once the working and service uniforms are adopted, Sailors will receive a uniform maintenance allowance appropriate to support purchase and wear.

The announcement of the new uniforms, Carroll said, is the culmination of a three-year project that began with the charter of Task Force Uniform to deliver a proposal to reflect the requirements of a 21st century Navy. An analysis of a fleet-wide survey conducted during the summer of 2003 led to the creation of concepts for working and service uniforms for a wear test and another fleet-wide survey last summer.

“I just can’t say enough about how meticulous and thorough TFU Director Master Chief Rob Carroll and his team approached their work,” stressed Mullen. “The process they established and maintained was rock solid -- measured and analytical. They looked at hundreds of options, studied countless pattern and color designs, and fretted over every minor detail, from button style to stitching. I am enormously proud of their effort, and every Sailor can be, too.”

The work of TFU will not stop. Next on the agenda is to evaluate additional uniform options, such as reviving the traditional Service Dress Khaki uniform for chiefs and officers, conducting research on the feasibility, cost and distribution of a service-wide physical training uniform, consider adoption of a ceremonial cutlass for chiefs, and investigate adopting a more practical service-wide, all-weather coat that would provide a better military appearance.

“The bottom line for me in making these decisions,” said the CNO, “is culture. Uniforms reflect our culture -- who we are -- what we stand for. I've said all along that no matter which way we go, I want Sailors to look like Sailors. I really believe these uniforms pass that test.”
 

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Nice looking duds, there, sailor.

I think that it's good that you guys are getting your own cammies now. It'll make id-ing someone's branch a lot easier- especially the officers that get offended when some poor little E-1 Private screws up and calls a Captian a Colonel.


Besides... I can't imagine how hard it must be on your Marine boyfriends, what with you guys always borrowing their clothes. ;)
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Ya cant fool us. Those new uniforms are designed to make it harder to spot enlisted men that fall overboard.

Do you hear something?
No.
I swear I hear something. Sounds like someone calling for help.
I dont see a thing. Now go back to your martini and lets talk about that new Gucci handbag you bought while in port.

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Hey Steve and all your kinFolkes ok? I just saw some major Flooding there on Ohau.

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Hey Steve and all your kinFolkes ok? I just saw some major Flooding there on Ohau.

Stephen
Sofar things are okay on my side of the Island.  Most of the rain is hitting the Winward side and as the rain is coming from a really slow moving system the soil is being over saturaed over there.  Alot of the highway there are closed forcing people to drive around the island to get to the city.

  Hopefully the weather clears up over the weekend.  I'd like to do some volunteer time at the local paintball field.
 

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Now that sounds like fun. Esp. if the ground is soft and slick.  ;D

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Nice looking duds, there, sailor.

I think that it's good that you guys are getting your own cammies now. It'll make id-ing someone's branch a lot easier- especially the officers that get offended when some poor little E-1 Private screws up and calls a Captian a Colonel.


Besides... I can't imagine how hard it must be on your Marine boyfriends, what with you guys always borrowing their clothes. ;)
Well there is still a strong chance of that happening, The digi woodlands and desert cammies are going to be available for units working in those environments (Mainly Security, construction and spec ops).


Ya cant fool us. Those new uniforms are designed to make it harder to spot enlisted men that fall overboard.

Do you hear something?
No.
I swear I hear something. Sounds like someone calling for help.
I dont see a thing. Now go back to your martini and lets talk about that new Gucci handbag you bought while in port.

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 ;D  ;D  ;D

LOL! You forgot about the Armani boots man, the Armani boots!! ;)
 

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LOL! You forgot about the Armani boots man, the Armani boots!! ;)

:lol: I cant help myself sometimes. My former brother-in-law was in the navy during GW1. I gave him h*ll for years. I even made up a few songs...

In the Navy.
Where you spend time on your knees
In the Navy.
You get rectal 'zams for free
In the Navy.
Lose the dress and be a man
In the Navy.
Aint no p****, use your...

Well, you get the drift.  ;D




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LOL!
I can proudly say that I'm a sailor and such.

But for the MARINE buddies

My
A**
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment

For the Navy Dress Blues, the flap in the trouser is what we fondly call a Marine serving platter,
And as for their dress uniform,  the reason why they have the extra buttons and length on thier shirts, is for use as a bib when using that naval equipment. ;D
 

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LOL!
I can proudly say that I'm a sailor and such.

But for the MARINE buddies

My
A**
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment

For the Navy Dress Blues, the flap in the trouser is what we fondly call a Marine serving platter,
And as for their dress uniform,  the reason why they have the extra buttons and length on thier shirts, is for use as a bib when using that naval equipment. ;D

Well, at least you can say that in a fight, you actually get to fire a weapon at something. All my B-I-L did was "toe dance" on the deck of a carrier waving little flags at aircraft.

Did you know that there are 105 men on a sub? Thats 52 couples and a wh***.  ;) ;D




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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2006, 02:09:02 pm »
  :rofl: LOL! :rofl:
I love telling that to my ol man.
He was a 20 yr. Subrider.

150 people submerging for six monthis in a large metallic manned torpedo full of seaman for six to nine months, makes you wonder. 
 

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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2006, 05:31:26 am »
  :rofl: LOL! :rofl:
I love telling that to my ol man.
He was a 20 yr. Subrider.

150 people submerging for six monthis in a large metallic manned torpedo full of seaman for six to nine months, makes you wonder. 


Uh honey is there a family secret you are hiding from me?!

What I think is funny is this guy is going on and on about keeping the traditions of the Navy.  And how are you doing that by dressing up like the other branches of the military?  I mean the cover is like a Jar Head (sorry Stephen) and the BDU (or whatever) looks like the stuff that the Zoomies & Cannon Fodder get to wear.  OK so the color is blue.  Yippie? 
Ya cant fool us. Those new uniforms are designed to make it harder to spot enlisted men that fall overboard.

Do you hear something?
No.
I swear I hear something. Sounds like someone calling for help.
I dont see a thing. Now go back to your martini and lets talk about that new Gucci handbag you bought while in port.

<RUNS>

 ;D ;D ;D


Shadow is on the ball on that one.  Digi Cammies on a ship . . .  Stand up against a bulk head and blend in?  OO OO OO or standing outside trying to hide against the grey of the ship!  "Oh sh*t it's the Old Man!"  "Nah, don't worry about it.  He can't see us since we blend in so nicely!"  *thippth* :P

BUT, I do like the fact that they will (1) pay for it and (2) that damn sea bag will have more room for all the gifts you are gonna bring home to me off of deployments!   ;) :D
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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2006, 09:35:20 pm »
I can't believe she hasn't heard the phrase 'underway gay' and that it applies to more sailors than most people imagine...
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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2006, 10:07:17 am »
Good possibility that this requirement was validated by the creation of the Naval Infantry career path, as well as the others that require field duty ashore.

As to why the Navy (and everyone else) needs service-specific field uniforms, I dont get that one at all.
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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2006, 10:34:20 am »
Nice Uniforms. Me thinks
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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2006, 01:18:13 pm »
Good possibility that this requirement was validated by the creation of the Naval Infantry career path, as well as the others that require field duty ashore.

As to why the Navy (and everyone else) needs service-specific field uniforms, I dont get that one at all.
Well the issue really was to have a genral working uniform (for use on ship and ashore) that the sailor can wear out in the civvie environment which would be allowed.  For the longest time the 'Dungaries' (which are now utilities) were not allowed to be worn as the other services BDU's.
  I guess they were not Military enough or we looked to much like Jiffy Lube attendants or something.   Plus the current uniforms were a poor replacement of the old and were not comfortable to most.  But all in all, the Naval Sea Bag also has the most variety of uniforms than any of the other departments in our armed forces and it was time to trim the fat, hence the changes.

  To accomidate the latest survey and the main gripes coming from all over the chain, the CNO wanted to do major changes to bring us up to speed.  I like the BDU style uniform and I understand the thinking behind the pattern but, I think hiding potentail stains is really camoflauging a sloppy sailor.  I would perfer a solid blue color but, if camo is what that's called for, then camo it is.
 

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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2006, 01:43:21 pm »
at least they ain't making ur "new" uniform in pastel blues, greens and gray...... :skeptic: :screwloose:
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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2006, 02:26:04 pm »
at least they ain't making ur "new" uniform in pastel blues, greens and gray...... :skeptic: :screwloose:
LOL! That's true. Though, with the pattern and the popularity of the modern pop culture, I wouldn't be surprised to see kids wearing the pants and shirts with dangling chains and hood ornaments
 

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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2006, 02:41:53 am »
You people got it all wrong. This should be the new uniform for our women that serve in the military!

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Re: Ferret's bar and grill "New Uniforms for the US Navy has been decided"
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2006, 06:40:39 am »
Personally I don't like it.  I realize that BDUs are very comfortable.  But I don't think they are very "Navy".  If they want to use similiar uniforms in all the services to save money or something that is fine.  Just be honest about it up front. 

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“When I walk down the piers, I see a Sailors standing watch as a pier sentry in January and it's 30 degrees and freezing rain,” Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (SS/AW) Terry Scott said. “You have to ask yourself, does the uniform that we currently issue protect us, and the answer is no.”

To meet the all-weather requirement, the new working uniform will include several cold weather options, such as a unisex pullover sweater, a fleece jacket, and a parka.

And that made no sense.  Don't we have sweaters, jackets and parkas available for our current uniforms?  Last I checked we don't send people to stand watch in January in short sleeve shirts. 

Also, I must have missed it but was is going to be the working uniform for E-7 and above?  Khaki's are gone?  Oh, and my khaki poly/wools are about $100 a set or better.  So I'm guessing these new working uniforms are going to be the same.  Are they going to up the uniform allowance to cover that?  Not sure if the article is talking about a one-time payment or the annual allowance. 

I do agree that something needed to be done with the Navy uniforms, especailly the women's.  Too many uniforms to worry about.  I just think this is an "interesting" way to go with it. 

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