Topic: Anyone interested in an F&E style PBR game? (Read 6063 times)

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #20 on:** March 02, 2006, 07:02:51 pm »

Shadow had a formula to break battles donw into small parts..

Oh...and yeah...count me and as many klinks as I can bring...

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #21 on:** March 02, 2006, 07:35:14 pm »

For those interested in the rules...

Here are two of the rule sets I will be drawing off of....

SFCShadow's Campaign

STOC's rules file & other stuff

also thinking of using CyberBoard again as STOC already has a tile set for every fleet, then again, if I can get MaxPower to send it to me again, someone made an actually F&E map & tileset for CyberBoard already...

so that part of the work will be done.

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #22 on:** March 02, 2006, 07:39:31 pm »

Quote from: Riskyllama on March 02, 2006, 06:13:13 pm

would this be using the SFB fighters and stuff?

That I will leave up to the players...

IF the players want Fighters and PF's... I think DH would be willing to lend us the use of his modified shiplist with Fighters & PF's for all (except Hydrans that is)

Though I think something will have to be done for conjectural ships... probably need to make those ships rather expensive or at least limit the capacity to build them.

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #23 on:** March 02, 2006, 07:40:21 pm »

Quote from: KBF-Crim on March 02, 2006, 07:02:51 pm

Shadow had a formula to break battles donw into small parts..

Oh...and yeah...count me and as many klinks as I can bring...

Good, I hoping for some good Klingon support here... figured it would be right up yours and the KHH's alley!

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #24 on:** March 02, 2006, 07:43:06 pm »

Quote from: D'Emon Fly on March 02, 2006, 06:28:28 pm

I am definitely in

As Lyran I hope?

If so 4 races covered, 4 to go....

Actually, that does bring up a question.... do we want the ISC involved?

762_XC · « **Reply #25 on:** March 02, 2006, 08:03:54 pm »

Um...

NOES

Dfly · « **Reply #26 on:** March 02, 2006, 08:20:41 pm »

Quote from: Capt_Bearslayer_XC on March 02, 2006, 07:43:06 pm

Quote from: D'Emon Fly on March 02, 2006, 06:28:28 pm
I am definitely in

As Lyran I hope?

If so 4 races covered, 4 to go....

Actually, that does bring up a question.... do we want the ISC involved?

ya sure why not, Lyran it is. I will see if any more FSD members are interested.

Lepton · « **Reply #27 on:** March 02, 2006, 10:08:12 pm »

F&E Cyberboard gamebox is here:

http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sfin/Fe-v4_5.zip

I assume this is the latest version but I am not certain of that.

Alphageek · « **Reply #28 on:** March 02, 2006, 10:42:45 pm »

This sounds cool. I'd like to give it a go. Can someone send me a Private Message and explain it in simple form for me? Then I can work out which race I want to be.....probably Federation or Romulan.

Skaren · « **Reply #29 on:** March 03, 2006, 08:02:12 am »

Thanks Bear for those rules sets. I have to say none of them seem simple and quick to implement, I have only scanned them quickly though. I worry you will bog things down with folks dickering with rule section 3b subset 2a, kinda like the old StarFleet Battles board game. It would fall on your shoulders though, so I would not care a bit

Again I am in, and will fly whatever race rounds out the game for you (even if it is a sh*tty race, I will make do), it sucks when a particular race is not chosen for a ref.

-So is the plan to have many players in one race, or just one player per race?

-I think Lepton advice is the best. If this fails, it would suck and set back other attempts like it. If it is kept simple and succeeds then it can be expanded on later or even as the game progresses. The biggest risk to game game being successfull is not players, enthusiasm, battle resolution, etc. The risk is overly complicating it initially, and bogging the game down due to that. Every effort from the ref should be towards the games successfull implementation and running of it, and much of that will be keeping it simple and smooth.

-Our focus and enjoyment is SFC battles with a history and meaning to them. Not fumbling through 33 pages of campaign rules trying to find subsection 3b pertaining to Annexing verse Capturing a territory.

- In the end like every player ought to,.. I support the Ref's final call on any and all decisions. I only offer advice from running dozens of campaigns like this over the years and have seen many reasons for failure. I truly hope and desire for this one to succeed and be enjoyable to all.

Good Luck
S

PS Why did the STOC campaign end ? Please explain its finality to me anyone who was in it. Did it succeed, where was it weak?

Skaren · « **Reply #30 on:** March 03, 2006, 09:27:06 am »

WHAT !!

There is no fog of war ????? I thought that was what a ref was for ???

Is this game going to also have no fog of war ?

No wonder I saw a post a while ago of someone wondering what good scouts were for!

Well, when in Rome,...

S

KHH_Jakle · « **Reply #31 on:** March 03, 2006, 12:24:19 pm »

You should really keep the scale small. Front based if you are imitating the GW, or replay older wars.

Also makes the small size of the engagements easier to swallow...

Riskyllama · « **Reply #32 on:** March 03, 2006, 01:24:42 pm »

are the isc out?...if not i'll fly them

Hexx · « **Reply #33 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:08:36 pm »

Sounds cool.

FPF-Paladin · « **Reply #34 on:** March 03, 2006, 05:29:14 pm »

Count me in!!!

Lepton · « **Reply #35 on:** March 03, 2006, 10:29:42 pm »

Quote from: skaren on March 03, 2006, 09:27:06 am

WHAT !!

There is no fog of war ????? I thought that was what a ref was for ???

Is this game going to also have no fog of war ?

No wonder I saw a post a while ago of someone wondering what good scouts were for!

Well, when in Rome,...

S

Who ever said anything about a ref or fog of war? Such things may be implied in some of the potential rulesets but F&E does not generally I don't think have a fog of war mechanism. I think we are looking some rather simple and straightforward campaign mechanics. If people disagree with this idea, please say so. I'd be willing to participate in this in whatever form it takes. At this point, I am merely making suggestions for what I would hope would keep this thing moving forward once it gets started.

762_XC · « **Reply #36 on:** March 03, 2006, 10:49:31 pm »

I think FoW would add a nightmare of administrative overhead. Not even remotely worth it imho.

And Lepton is correct, there is no FoW in F&E.

Skaren · « **Reply #37 on:** March 04, 2006, 10:12:03 am »

It is a administrative nightmare, but that is what we always use and why the scale of our games is kept small. It does add a tremendous amount to the game though. In some ways the larger the game the less quality allowed, in a small game the FOW is able to be done and if you haven't played with it your missing out. It makes a game very interesting. In reading over the old rules used I noticed that you folks do not use it.

I agree with what is going forward we should not have it. I originally thought (from the original post) it was going to be a small game with one player a nation and maybe like 8 nations, if Bear could get that.

Now with so many people responding positively to Bears ideal, the game seems to have grown a lot in scope.

I am looking forward to seeing the rules for it.

I mentioned ref because someone has to make calls on the rules used and other issues that will arrise, we are not going to agree on everything. I am confussed as to how we could move forward without a ref who sets rules, time tables, resolves other things. What is this going to magical form itself out of the blue or something ?

I am assuming the guy who originally invited us into this is going to ref it. Especially since he said he would miss playing in the game that he suggested we have.

Lepton · « **Reply #38 on:** March 04, 2006, 11:09:58 am »

I suggest the game be referreed by a race of super-intelligent, super-powerful aliens that wager on the outcomes of our struggles. Something like glowing brains in dome. Yeah, that's it. Find those guys and we are set.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #39 on:** March 04, 2006, 11:37:12 am »

I bid 500 quatluze!

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