Topic: How often do you get your car's or truck's oil changed?

[FRA.E.Kehakoul_XC]

What a bunch of smartasses hehe;)

Here once again.

They will pay the damage via insurance.. Jack.

That tech is for more then 20 years in production and development even longer,.. it was on the world expo.
It will not damage your motor.
its is however against the interist of certain companys,.. they dont advertise it or put it in  industrial  production because its not their invention, instead they are trying to develop their own system..  but they lag arround 40ty!! years in development time.
You guys craking me up.
Its fact!!,.. ok, face it.
You all spill tons of money down the toilett.

And btw Jack that translation  was not understandable from my pov, i seldom laughed that hard but when i saw that translation. hehe fun.

[The Postman]

What a bunch of smartasses hehe;)

Here once again.

They will pay the damage via insurance.. Jack.

That tech is for more then 20 years in production and development even longer,.. it was on the world expo.
It will not damage your motor.
its is however against the interist of certain companys,.. they dont advertise it or put it in  industrial  production because its not their invention, instead they are trying to develop their own system..  but they lag arround 40ty!! years in development time.
You guys craking me up.
Its fact!!,.. ok, face it.
You all spill tons of money down the toilett.

And btw Jack that translation  was not understandable from my pov, i seldom laughed that hard but when i saw that translation. hehe fun.

To go along, with this here in this country there are class 8 trucks that go 500,000 miles or longer between changes. They use synthetic oil. At up to $15,000 a motor, they don't make this choice casually. What they do however is have the oil tested at a lab and change the filters every 50,000 miles.

[Jack Morris]

That tech is for more then 20 years in production and development even longer,.. it was on the world expo.
It will not damage your motor.
its is however against the interist of certain companys,.. they dont advertise it or put it in  industrial  production because its not their invention, instead they are trying to develop their own system..  but they lag arround 40ty!! years in development time.

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http://www.puradyn.com/

There went that 40 year research & development and production estimate. 

If this proves useful and is certified by the D.O.E., and is cost effective for a average American driver, I might be inclined to consider buying a gadget like that. Until then, it's best left to others to play the guinea pig.

[T' Kang]

The No. 1 question of oil experts: How often should oil be changed?
http://www.generalaviationnews.com/editorial/articledetail.lasso?-token.key=10409&-token.src=column&-nothing

Explaining to the insurance agent how you know more than the engine/chemical engineering team at the factory; futile.

Oil is ˘heap, engine is expen$$ive. Driving around in the rental Taurus while the Mercedes is in the shop; Priceless. 

Now if the cost of the oil change is more than the replacement of the '70 Pinto? 

Just to stir the pot a little...
http://www.ichoosegreen.com/custom.em?pid=287360

[Brush Wolf]

Now if the cost of the oil change is more than the replacement of the '70 Pinto? 

The cost of a quart of oil is more than that!

[E_Look]

Okay, no lectures.

How about you providing a demonstration... well, instead of that, how about some figures or data and maybe a picture or charts?

I mean, if I can save money by changing oil only once every 15,000 mi (or km; either way, that's a lot of driving distance!), I'm for it!

Really, all joking and playing aside, you will be doing a public service if you can post some solid, reputable data here.

Kehakoul, I'm sure the filter is great for trapping all metal particulates and even other particulates from your oil.

But the reason to change oil is not just the solid gritty junk in it.  Given today's engines, the oil is more harshly treated than in the past and it chemically breaks down.  So, it no longer lubricates nearly as well as when the oil was newer.

I suppose you won't have to change the filter ever, but the oil has to be periodically.

No lectures needed,Elook, its exactly the other way arround,..you got to change the filter  after a few years.
With  a modern motor oil the need to change it is virtually wiped out.

Second this is actually a oil filter/ cooler unit  and more its connected to  the motor and gear,you use two ,one for the gear the other for the motor.
Its a German inventon that faced harsh opposition from the Auto industry over here in Germany and most important from the oil industry etc.. guess why??

Fact is its is fielded at the moment in many German towns for public service  cars to anihilate the need to feed the oil scammers further.
And it works as i said, regardless what you guys might think!:)

Have a nice day.

[Jack Morris]

I mean, if I can save money by changing oil only once every 15,000 mi (or km; either way, that's a lot of driving distance!), I'm for it!

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Mobil One already has a 15,000 mile full synthetic oil, the two gadgets mentioned are supposed to go way beyond that.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Oils.aspx

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance.aspx

Notice key words: You've never seen an oil like this before. Mobil 1® Extended Performance is a new high-endurance motor oil with 36 percent more anti-wear additives and 37 percent more cleaning agents than current Mobil 1 formulations. It is a fully synthetic formulation that helps extend engine life, reduce oil breakdown and minimize engine wear -- all while helping to keep your engine clean. Improvements that add up to exceptional protection for 15,000 miles. Guaranteed.

GUARANTEED, I love it! 

[Fedman NCC-3758]

You mean to tell me "changing" the oil doesn't mean putting the oil from the Dodge into the Olds and from the Olds to the Dodge?

Man, this place is great! 

[E_Look]

I mean, if I can save money by changing oil only once every 15,000 mi (or km; either way, that's a lot of driving distance!), I'm for it!

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Mobil One already has a 15,000 mile full synthetic oil, the two gadgets mentioned are supposed to go way beyond that.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Oils.aspx

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance.aspx

Notice key words: You've never seen an oil like this before. Mobil 1® Extended Performance is a new high-endurance motor oil with 36 percent more anti-wear additives and 37 percent more cleaning agents than current Mobil 1 formulations. It is a fully synthetic formulation that helps extend engine life, reduce oil breakdown and minimize engine wear -- all while helping to keep your engine clean. Improvements that add up to exceptional protection for 15,000 miles. Guaranteed.

GUARANTEED, I love it! 

I don't know Jack, Kehahoul, etc.  It kind of sounds too good to be true!

[FRA.E.Kehakoul_XC]

I know E_look:). Even when i write it down i realize how unbelievable it is, and i woulndt have even bothered to post it here, if i wouldnt know several people who use it now for years,.. and had talked to the guy who makes them.
But we were blinded by the Auto companys for decades now.
Everyhwere you talk to people its the same even over here, or maybe especially over here, you know the Germans  are heavy into cars.. and are brand freaks,its simply not thinkable for them that Mercedes,Porsche ,Bmw ,Vw etc would ignore a feature that would spare them thousands  of money just to support the oil industry,or support the spread of diesel cars,.. oil driven,.. without particle filters although they know that the exhaust is highly cancerogen. if you got a basic grasp on chemistry you that, yet they kill people just to make money.

That filter is easyly useable with that new oil or additives  , the combo should be even better.

And one more thing about Germany, public services dont easyly make themselves dependant on services.
Believe me when i say that in that in PB services they never would field them if there were any rumors of them ,not working  or producing breakdowns.
 Btw as said, the company offers insurance in regard to any damage caused. But they never had to compensate anyone yet.
The rest is all a publicity problem.
I will look, if i find the time, and see what i can translate of that site ,in a understandable form.

[Brush Wolf]

Kehahoul, while that filter system probably does work very well I think the payback period for most drivers makes traditional oil filters just as good and likely cheaper. For myself the same can be said about that Mobil One synthetic, when you only drive five to six thousand miles a year there is little or no cost savings over more conventional oils.

[Dracho]

I take the Germans seriously when it comes to engineering.  Any people that can make oil & petrol from potatos, and fuel enough tanks and planes to fight a war must have something on the ball.

[KBF MalaK]

Oil is the life blood of your engine. 3000 miles is a pretty good interval for conventional oil as it's mostly parrafin wax that does lose it's lubricating properties, and does have a shelf life. When it's exposed to air it starts to deteriorate and even if the motor isn't run the oil is 'spoiled' after about 3 months. Synthetics are a different animal, it doesn't 'go bad' over a short amount of time. Synth blends are a cheap intermediate solution- it 'goes bad' over time but has better lubricating qualities than conventional oil, but not as good as a full synth oil. Oil changing is cheap insurance against costly bearing and ring replacments, not to mention valve guides, clogged oil pump pick-up tubes/oil galleys, and other moving parts.

Rule of thumb:
conventional oil- 3 months or 3000 miles
blends- 4 months or 4500 miles
full synth- 6 months or 10,000 miles

*** note*** - I was a Mercedes Benz mechanic for 15 years

[Commander Maxillius]

2005 Toyota Echo  1.5L 4-cyl

I use Valvoline SYNPower 5W30 in my engine and change it (religiously) every 3500-4300 miles.  I've been known to let the filter go 2 cycles though.

Case of oil: $28 (6 quarts, engine takes 3.
filter: $6


Pretty much every 3rd change is free since there are 2 unused bottles from every change.  And I do it myself.  Anyone know where I could dump off about 100 gallons of used engine oil? (mixed grades, but mostly straight-30, but some 5W30 conventional, and some 3W30 synthetic)

[The Postman]

Pretty much every 3rd change is free since there are 2 unused bottles from every change.  And I do it myself.  Anyone know where I could dump off about 100 gallons of used engine oil? (mixed grades, but mostly straight-30, but some 5W30 conventional, and some 3W30 synthetic)

I would take it but MI is too far. If it is good clean (used) crank case oil with no water, somebody with a big truck might take it and blend it off with his diesel. I my self dump up to 10 gallions everytime I fill up. Like I stated above, my oil changes go straight into my fuel tank.

[Dracho]

2005 Toyota Echo  1.5L 4-cyl

I use Valvoline SYNPower 5W30 in my engine and change it (religiously) every 3500-4300 miles.  I've been known to let the filter go 2 cycles though.

Case of oil: $28 (6 quarts, engine takes 3.
filter: $6


Pretty much every 3rd change is free since there are 2 unused bottles from every change.  And I do it myself.  Anyone know where I could dump off about 100 gallons of used engine oil? (mixed grades, but mostly straight-30, but some 5W30 conventional, and some 3W30 synthetic)

Call businesses (like lube shops) until you find one that uses a burnt-oil heater to provide heat.  They'll usually take it right off your hands.

[Jack Morris]

Advance Auto Parts take oil as well. Like brother D said, most lube shops will take it, everyplace for free. People might not know this, but next time you get an oil change, look at your receipt for an "oil disposal fee." It's B.S., wanna know why? They get paid money when the truck comes and sucks all the used oil out of the big tanks, because the companies that pick it up and pay the lube shops turn around and recycle it and make it useful for many applications, one that I'm sure of as I did my research when I invested in maritime oil tankers is that they can run ships off the stuff.

Next time, do it yourself and save that 4-5 buck oil disposal fee. 

[EE]

I use Mobill 1 full synthetic oil and I change every 3,000 miles regardless of color or smell. I do so because I have no choice, I must keep my engine in tip top shape, I cant risk replacing it or the turbo on it.  At $5.99 a quart and 5 quarts of oil plus $10 for a filter, its expensive to do changes on my car even doing them by myself.

As is, my transmission is dumping fluid like crazy and now requires at the minimum, new seals and at the most, a rebuild ( have nto dropped it yet ). Just when I was starting to get comfortable and safe with the new job crap gets screwed up. Truck is dead, voltage regulator went out and it gets crappy mileage and now the car is bleeding and I cant stop it. Its costing me $12 a day in transmission fluid to keep it operational and thats driving it 6 miles round trip from home to work and back home. I am dropping the transmission next friday to see whats up and how all the seals and gaskets are doing.


My car, 1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX


My work truck that doesnt like to work at all, 1985 Mitsubishi Mighty Max SP


My car left, my friends 11 second, 501 awhp Eagle Talon


My baby bleeding all over the driveway

[Midnight Tech]

EE, have you had the filter changed in that tranny lately? It could be that the pan bolts weren't tightened properly. I usually don't tell folks to add stuff to their cars, but if it'll help with that leaking a bit, you might want to add a bottle of ATP's AT-205 Re-Seal(tm). The parts store I work at sells a lot of that stuff and it does work.

[EE]

EE, have you had the filter changed in that tranny lately? It could be that the pan bolts weren't tightened properly. I usually don't tell folks to add stuff to their cars, but if it'll help with that leaking a bit, you might want to add a bottle of ATP's AT-205 Re-Seal(tm). The parts store I work at sells a lot of that stuff and it does work.

The filter was changed before I purchased the car. When I purchased it, it had just gotten all the belts done, new pan gasket and filter, new balance shaft and belt, everything tuned up. I have had the car 8 months ( still owe 58 more payments on it ) and it has 12,000 miles in 8 months. The filter should not need replacement for another 18,000 miles or so. The pan bolts, well 3 of them were loose and I tightended those but thats not the problem. I cleaned the bottom of the transmission/Transfer case and its coming from between the bellhousing and the engine, classic sign that the input shaft seal or pump seal is blown. I am dropping the transmission next friday to replace all the seals and to make sure I dont need a rebuild.