Topic: GRRRHRHHHH!!!! (Read 1987 times)

FPF-DieHard · « **on:** February 04, 2006, 12:12:34 am »

PC is dead, I think it the Motherboard. I can't find install disks for latop.

And I'm drunk to! Grrrhhhh!!!!!!

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2006, 12:45:19 am »

Your not alone with this difficulty, I'm drunk too

IAF Lyrkiller · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2006, 03:40:03 pm »

Break out the black coffee. and lots of it.

GDA-S'Cipio · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2006, 04:12:02 pm »

Quote from: KBG-K'hunt on February 04, 2006, 12:12:34 am

PC is dead, I think it the Motherboard. I can't find install disks for latop.

And I'm drunk to! Grrrhhhh!!!!!!

Are you SURE it's dead? Maybe, after you sober up, you'll realize you've been banging on your etch-a-sketch trying to make it power up.

(Here's a hint; to make it reboot, hold it upside down and shake it.)

-S'Cipio

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #4 on:** February 04, 2006, 04:15:57 pm »

It's not the Motherboard, it's not the Power Supply, IT'S THE FRICKING ON-SWITCH!!!! That's right, the fricking on-switch is broken. Glad I tested that before I started ordering new parts.

PS, does anyone know of a Mother board that support AGP and a Dual-core Interl/AMD chip?

GDA-S'Cipio · « **Reply #5 on:** February 04, 2006, 11:56:03 pm »

Quote from: KBG-K'hunt on February 04, 2006, 04:15:57 pm

It's not the Motherboard, it's not the Power Supply, IT'S THE FRICKING ON-SWITCH!!!! That's right, the fricking on-switch is broken. Glad I tested that before I started ordering new parts.

I told you that you were drunk. You bang away for hours at a start button with a cork screw and you still expect it to work?

You're wasting your time anyway. Screwtop wine bottles don't need corkscrews. Now tell the rented woment to get out of your house and get yourself back on the game.

-S'Cipio

Wraith 413 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2006, 11:26:19 am »

DH, what CPU and MB do you have right now? For an AMD motherboard with an AGP slot, you're looking at either an NVidia nForce3 or a VIA KT800 chipset. All the major MB makers make these. I don't use Intel stuff, but I know VIA, Nvidia and Intel chipsets are available with an APG slot. Shop around on Newegg for something that fits your needs/price range.
VIA makes a stable chipset for AMD and the KT800 pro chipset does support Dual Core, wiith a BIOS update usually involved.
nVidia nForce 3 chipsets are generally great overclockers. If you go the nVidia route, DO NOT INSTALL the nVidia FIREWALL, it's crap and corrupts all DL's.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2006, 11:39:28 am »

Quote from: Wraith 413 on February 06, 2006, 11:26:19 am

DH, what CPU and MB do you have right now? For an AMD motherboard with an AGP slot, you're looking at either an NVidia nForce3 or a VIA KT800 chipset. All the major MB makers make these. I don't use Intel stuff, but I know VIA, Nvidia and Intel chipsets are available with an APG slot. Shop around on Newegg for something that fits your needs/price range.
VIA makes a stable chipset for AMD and the KT800 pro chipset does support Dual Core, wiith a BIOS update usually involved.
nVidia nForce 3 chipsets are generally great overclockers. If you go the nVidia route, DO NOT INSTALL the nVidia FIREWALL, it's crap and corrupts all DL's.

Running a Pentium IV 2.53 GHz, built this PC in 2002 right before the original "Attack of the Kitties" server. I recently purchased an ATI Radeon X800 All-in-Wonder AGP card that is wonderful. I have however shot myself in the foot with this AGP card as I have tied myself to leagcy hardware, none of the Dual-core Intel boards use AGP, all are PCIe.

If I upgrade soon, the Asus A8V has an AGP slot and I THINK is supports the dual-core chips as it uses the same socket. Intel or AMD are fine by me, performaqnce per dollar spent works aout about the same.

Wraith 413 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2006, 07:22:52 pm »

Asus make good boards, as does Gigabyte. I have the Gigabyte K8U, that the wife is using now. Good stable board, so far. Newegg seems to be letting the AGP boards slowly fade from their inventory. The Asrock dual board might be something to consider, with both AGP and PCIEx16.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128307
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128286
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157081

These are all AMD boards, as I'm more familar with them. At least with AMD, all the chipsets support Dual Core. Is there a particular reason you need Dual Core? Not many app's or games really utilize dual core, ATM. I have an AMD 3800 X2, which runs cool and great for me. With the AMD route, atleast you should be able to use the CPU and memory whenever you have to upgrade to a PCIE video card.

The bad news is that AMD is coming out with a new socket standard within 8 months( give or take), along with DDR2 memory support. Not sure if that is going to be noticeably faster than what is out there now.

benbean · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2006, 11:47:52 am »

http://www.asrock.com/product/939Dual-SATA2.htm

I just bought this mobo about 3 weeks ago DH. It supports Socket 939 CPU's, A64, Dual core, and Opteron.

It also has 1 AGPx8 and 1 PCIex16 graphics slots, it also has a 1xPCIe slot and 3 PCI slots.

It supports SATA2 and has a RAID controller on it.

My system specs...

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego Core 64 bit 1MB L2 Cache
Asrock 939 DUAL-SATA2 (939) ULIM1695 Dual core +8x AGP PCI-E SATA2 RAID +LAN +USB2.0 +8 ch. Audio
XFX GeForce 6800GT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP)
Geil® Value 2Gb PC3200 Dual Chan DDR Kit (2x1GB) (Cas 3 8-4-4)
2x 74 GB Western Digital Raptor 10K rpm SATA HDD
2x 80 GB Maxtor DiamondMax Plus10 8MB Cache 7200rpm ATA133
Sony DDU 1613 - DVD-ROM drive
Sony DW-D18A - DVD RW drive
3.5" FDD +7 in 1 Card Reader
Jeantec 650W PSU
LG Flatron L1915S
Satiek Eclipse Keyboard
Logitek G5 mouse

This setup has been running XP-SP2 since I built it, I've had no stability problems whatsoever.

I was in the same situation as you with the AGP gfx card. This board let me use my 6800 AGP with the option of upgrading to PCIe later.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17457881&page=1&pp=30

That link is a users forum for the board. The board has been known to overclock an Opty 144 to almost 3GHz. (CABNE stepping) Not bad for a CPU that runs 1.8GHz standard.

Wraith 413 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2006, 05:07:06 pm »

I'd be interested to know your MB settings, Ben. (i.e. divider,HTT, volts and so on.....)

benbean · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2006, 09:08:03 am »

CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1

Name AMD Athlon 64 3700+
Code Name San Diego
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+
Family / Model / Stepping F 7 1
Extended Family / Model F 27
Brand ID 4
Package Socket 939
Core Stepping SH-E4
Technology 90 nm
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
CPU Clock Speed 2200.1 MHz
Clock multiplier x 11.0
HTT Bus Frequency 200.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 1024 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2200.1 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 128 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer
Motherboard model 939Dual-SATA2, 1.00
BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision P1.50
BIOS release date 12/06/2005
Chipset ALI M1695 rev. 00
Southbridge ALI M1563 rev. 70
Sensor chip Winbond W83627HF

Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 2048 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 200.0 MHz
FSB:DRAM CPU/11
CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge 4 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 8 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 11 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks

Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c

all on stock voltages.

I don't overclock wraith. Scared incase I fry the CPU. After spending over £1000 on this system over the past year, I don't have the money to replace it

Wraith 413 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2006, 10:29:51 am »

Understand that, Ben. I only run a mild OC on my rigs. My 3800 X2 and 3200 venive core I run at 2.2, vice the normal 2.0 speed. I read where the Opty's are getting up to 3.0 mhz, some on air, the rest on water cooling.

Wraith 413

Wraith 413 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:52:34 pm »

DH, did you get a new MB, or what ?

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:40:01 pm »

Quote from: Wraith 413 on February 21, 2006, 08:52:34 pm

DH, did you get a new MB, or what ?

Not yet, need to do my taxes first to see how much money I can spend on something I really don't need

SkyFlyer · « **Reply #15 on:** February 22, 2006, 01:19:46 pm »

Quote from: FPF-DieHard on February 21, 2006, 09:40:01 pm

Quote from: Wraith 413 on February 21, 2006, 08:52:34 pm
DH, did you get a new MB, or what ?

Not yet, need to do my taxes first to see how much money I can spend on something I really don't need

I'm going down to uruguay in 2 months... if you still have that old mobo, chip, and ram... I'll give ya market value for it.

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