Title says it all, me and Frey were getting pissed off so he recommended i turn ALL start up programs for a diagnostic run, it worked
Afterward i turned some back on, DTools and xfire being both of em, after trying to get back on, low and behold it didnt work :O
killed both Dtools and xfire, ran again, disabled Dtools protection emulation, didnt help, closed dtools, bamg, it worked, so to ANYONE who plays on the dynaverse, close Dtools before playing
solved my problem... if only i had known it were so easy