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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2006, 07:12:37 am »
I'm going to swap out the map with the Stock map.

Let me know if their missions work while flying Hydran on the stock map.   I'm at work today but can do this over remote . . .

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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2006, 07:23:12 am »
Map has been swapped with stock, this will let us know if the Hydran problem is Shiplist or Map related.
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2006, 08:09:45 am »
Last night I was drafted into a planet defense by a Mirak player.  There was no planet.  Also, I had my D5 and a D5 AI, and the opposition had a whole bunch of ships. 
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2006, 09:11:52 am »
Map has been swapped with stock, this will let us know if the Hydran problem is Shiplist or Map related.

I can run the "Patrol" (and the other) missions w/ a Hydran with no problems.  Looks like that part is fixed.

On a different issue, there was a B10 in the shipyards.  I bid to see if I could buy it ... sure enough it showed up.  Cost me a whole 2K PP.  Haven't seen if it can be flown yet.  Haven't seen any other ships that shouldn't be in there unless Hexx also didn't want the D5U carrier in the game.

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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2006, 09:26:52 am »
Last night I was drafted into a planet defense by a Mirak player.  There was no planet.  Also, I had my D5 and a D5 AI, and the opposition had a whole bunch of ships. 

yeah that was me an an attempted attack on a lyran colored hex as a mirak player.
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2006, 09:44:50 am »
Map has been swapped with stock, this will let us know if the Hydran problem is Shiplist or Map related.

I can run the "Patrol" (and the other) missions w/ a Hydran with no problems.  Looks like that part is fixed.

On a different issue, there was a B10 in the shipyards.  I bid to see if I could buy it ... sure enough it showed up.  Cost me a whole 2K PP.  Haven't seen if it can be flown yet.  Haven't seen any other ships that shouldn't be in there unless Hexx also didn't want the D5U carrier in the game.

Interesting, Hydrans work on a "stock" but not Hexx's . . .

I'll take care of the shipyards tonight.
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2006, 09:52:39 am »
Yes ...interesting...

So what the <expletive deleted> does that mean?
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2006, 10:01:21 am »
Attach your mvm file to a post (zipped) and I can take a look... edit: er maybe better to e-mail it to me to keep it concealed..

edit: the tensions settings would be helpful too, as I suspect they are related to this issue.

But no need to, just offering to lend a hand in debugging.
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2006, 10:59:12 am »
Attach your mvm file to a post (zipped) and I can take a look... edit: er maybe better to e-mail it to me to keep it concealed..

edit: the tensions settings would be helpful too, as I suspect they are related to this issue.

But no need to, just offering to lend a hand in debugging.

The tension settings are right, I thought that to but they are identical as the allied races
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2006, 11:47:42 am »
Uhmm

Actually I don't know if I put any cartel space at all on the map I sent I think I may have just put
the Empires on- could that be causing the issues?
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2006, 12:14:27 pm »
lyrans UI (assuming that's what I was assigned to) still doesn't work
the mirak still dont draft AI
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2006, 03:10:33 pm »
Flying as a fed everything was ok until I tried attacking Lyran space, then I started getting the "no enemy/instant win" missions.  [Edit: as fed can attack Klink, Gorn, ISC hexes ok, it's just when I start missions in/around Lyran space]

I couldn't spot any major inconsistencies in the shiplist across the races, and since the problems are appearing on the stock map as well as the hexxified one I'd have to guess there's an issue in the political tensions someplace.  But that's from someone who's been away from this for a lonnnnnnnnngggggggg time 

(Though I do remember it's Fluf's fault ;D )

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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2006, 05:33:38 pm »
Did I screw any of these up?


[PoliticalTension/StartingTensions/Federation]
Federation=0
Klingon=1000
Romulan=0
Lyran=1000
Hydran=0
Gorn=1000
ISC=1000
Mirak=0
Orion=500
OrionOrion=500
OrionKorgath=500
OrionPrime=500
OrionTigerHeart=1000
OrionBeastRaiders=500
OrionSyndicate=500
OrionWyldeFire=500
OrionCamboro=500
Monster=500

[PoliticalTension/StartingTensions/Klingon]
Federation=1000
Klingon=0
Romulan=1000
Lyran=0
Hydran=1000
Gorn=0
ISC=0
Mirak=1000
Orion=500
OrionOrion=500
OrionKorgath=500
OrionPrime=500
OrionTigerHeart=1000
OrionBeastRaiders=500
OrionSyndicate=500
OrionWyldeFire=500
OrionCamboro=500
Monster=500

[PoliticalTension/StartingTensions/Romulan]
Federation=0
Klingon=1000
Romulan=0
Lyran=1000
Hydran=0
Gorn=1000
ISC=1000
Mirak=0
Orion=500
OrionOrion=500
OrionKorgath=500
OrionPrime=500
OrionTigerHeart=1000
OrionBeastRaiders=500
OrionSyndicate=500
OrionWyldeFire=500
OrionCamboro=500
Monster=500

[PoliticalTension/StartingTensions/Lyran]
Federation=1000
Klingon=0
Romulan=1000
Lyran=0
Hydran=1000
Gorn=0
ISC=0
Mirak=1000
Orion=500
OrionOrion=500
OrionKorgath=500
OrionPrime=500
OrionTigerHeart=1000
OrionBeastRaiders=500
OrionSyndicate=500
OrionWyldeFire=500
OrionCamboro=500
Monster=500

[PoliticalTension/StartingTensions/Hydran]
Federation=0
Klingon=1000
Romulan=0
Lyran=1000
Hydran=0
Gorn=1000
ISC=1000
Mirak=0
Orion=500
OrionOrion=500
OrionKorgath=500
OrionPrime=500
OrionTigerHeart=1000
OrionBeastRaiders=500
OrionSyndicate=500
OrionWyldeFire=500
OrionCamboro=500
Monster=500

[PoliticalTension/StartingTensions/Gorn]
Federation=1000
Klingon=0
Romulan=1000
Lyran=0
Hydran=1000
Gorn=0
ISC=0
Mirak=1000
Orion=500
OrionOrion=500
OrionKorgath=500
OrionPrime=500
OrionTigerHeart=1000
OrionBeastRaiders=500
OrionSyndicate=500
OrionWyldeFire=500
OrionCamboro=500
Monster=500

[PoliticalTension/StartingTensions/ISC]
Federation=1000
Klingon=0
Romulan=1000
Lyran=0
Hydran=1000
Gorn=0
ISC=0
Mirak=1000
Orion=500
OrionOrion=500
OrionKorgath=500
OrionPrime=500
OrionTigerHeart=1000
OrionBeastRaiders=500
OrionSyndicate=500
OrionWyldeFire=500
OrionCamboro=500
Monster=500

[PoliticalTension/StartingTensions/Mirak]
Federation=0
Klingon=1000
Romulan=0
Lyran=1000
Hydran=0
Gorn=1000
ISC=1000
Mirak=0
Orion=500
OrionOrion=500
OrionKorgath=500
OrionPrime=500
OrionTigerHeart=1000
OrionBeastRaiders=500
OrionSyndicate=500
OrionWyldeFire=500
OrionCamboro=500
Monster=500

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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2006, 05:41:18 pm »
Are these supposed to be the sides? (so I can verify)

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(pvp)House of wIysuhl -Klingon
(ter)House of K'hnshy'a -ISC
(ter)House of HutDIch - Gorn
(pvp)House of D'emons -Lyran

vs

(ter)House of S'uh'nih -Federation
(pvp)House of Hy'kull - Romulan
(pvp)House of K'hunt- Hydran
(pvp)House of Korgath -Kzin

?

If so, then the above looks correct... Not sure why everyone's at 1000 to the tigerheart though. Also, I used 500 for all the empire vs cartel tensions on the current forge setup and I suspect it of problems; I'd suggest tensions of 700 maybe for all the empires vs cartels? And what about the cartel tensions... if off they could potentialy mess up the tensions matrix.

What kind of donation scheme do we have going on in the shiplist, are all races contiguous in the list?

Also, are the missionmatching settings stock or have they been altered? (I reccomend the attached)
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2006, 05:58:33 pm »
Another problem/bug similar to the one Mezzepa pointed out.

Was flying as a "hydran" in hex 8-13 (klingon) which showed a Station.  Entered the hex and found a Battle Station Assault as expected.

Took the BSA mission and found myself plus a friendly AI vs 2 bad guy AIs.  Killed them both.  No Station.  Mission ended and called it a defeat.

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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2006, 06:01:56 pm »
Just took a look at the shiplist....

Whoah what the heck happened to the Cartels? They're spilt up all over the place... not good.

I take it there is no PF donation going on? (look as if there is not, they are all missing but the Tigerheart's)

I reccomend taking the cartel slots for OP+4 and pasting them back in, overwriting what is there now.

How are the PF races going to react to fighters?

(I'm editing this post as I go...)

A race needs to be donating fighters to the PF empires.... as well as the corresponding changes to the fighterlist.

Also, I reccomend putting the empires and cartels in their normal order except for any fighter/carrier donation scheme used.
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2006, 06:05:03 pm »
Just took a look at the shiplist....

Whoah what the heck happened to the Cartels? They're spilt up all over the place... not good.

I take it there is no PF donation going on? (look as if there is not, they are all missing but the Tigerheart's)

I reccomend taking the cartel slots for OP+4 and pasting them back in, overwriting what is there now.



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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2006, 06:07:36 pm »
Nevemind, I may have found Hexx's Fruckup.

There is a Lyran ship in the middle of the Klingon list.   New Shiolist will be posted soon.
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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2006, 06:07:51 pm »
Can I get way with doing this Server-side?

I don't think so...

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Re: KCW Beta "Stuff"
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2006, 06:09:37 pm »
Nevemind, I may have found Hexx's Fruckup.

There is a Lyran ship in the middle of the Klingon list.   New Shiolist will be posted soon.


What about fighter/carrier donation? As well, the Cartels should be corrected.

Good catch on the lyran didn't see that.

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