Topic: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE (Read 22120 times)

Death_Merchant · « **Reply #80 on:** February 16, 2006, 01:28:11 pm »

Quote from: Villa64 on February 15, 2006, 09:30:15 am

I wonder if the bumped off Billy because he was the only character that everyone can agree that they like.

According to the podcast, the actor was written out to free him for other offers.

NJAntman · « **Reply #81 on:** February 17, 2006, 10:21:11 pm »

Wow, another kick-ass episode. I love the way they're weaving so many plots into each show. No spoilers this time, this one deserves to be seen raw so it can hit ya all at once.

TheJudge · « **Reply #82 on:** February 17, 2006, 10:39:09 pm »

It's recorded on Tivo so I'll be watching it as soon as I get done cooking dinner. Only worked ten hours today...it's pretty bad when four months before the damn election I'm thinking a ten hour day is a short one...

TheJudge · « **Reply #83 on:** February 18, 2006, 12:01:28 am »

Holy FRACK! Holy FRACK! Holy by the Lords of Kobol FRACK!

This really IS the Star Trek of the twenty-first century. They tackled the big A, big CL, and lost another over at the Beast all in one fracking episode, plus Baltar declared!

Everything was fracking awesome tonight...I especially loved Pegasus firing her bow cannons...I mean wow.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #84 on:** February 18, 2006, 01:54:04 am »

Damn...I missed the last two weeks $:-\$

Sirgod · « **Reply #85 on:** February 18, 2006, 04:53:08 am »

I missed last nights also. Had the family show up for the weekend, well, most of them, to spend time For Dennies Birthday.

oh Judge, dear friend...

Stephen

Commander La'ra · « **Reply #86 on:** February 18, 2006, 05:10:54 am »

Quote from: TheJudge on February 18, 2006, 12:01:28 am

This really IS the Star Trek of the twenty-first century.

Ya' know, I think you're right.

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #87 on:** February 18, 2006, 03:50:16 pm »

Those of you who are just realizing this are a bit late...

I loved the ending talk between Adama & Apollo....

"Off the record, what was Garner's flaw?"

"He was used to working with machines, command is about people" (or something close to that)

Indeed!!

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #88 on:** February 18, 2006, 03:59:29 pm »

Also... a BIG WOOT!!! on seeing the Peggy's big guns!

TheJudge · « **Reply #89 on:** February 18, 2006, 04:24:15 pm »

Quote from: Capt_Bearslayer_XC on February 18, 2006, 03:50:16 pm

Those of you who are just realizing this are a bit late...

I loved the ending talk between Adama & Apollo....

"Off the record, what was Garner's flaw?"

"He was used to working with machines, command is about people" (or something close to that)

Indeed!!

Earlier I've said it might be, now I know for certain that it truly deserves that title. BSG really does claim the champion title when it comes to good science fiction, as science fiction has always been at its best: A study on the moralities of the day set in the future/other worlds.

I really think this is the right line of work for Commander Adama (the new one, the son). He is much more command material than the brash pilot like Starbuck, and even Starbuck is maturing a bit, fitting into a better role when given half a chance (the old Pegasus commander didn't get that).

Next week's episode is one I've been waiting for a lot (and that's a gay man saying that about an episode that revolves almost exclusively around three women).

Villa64 · « **Reply #90 on:** February 18, 2006, 05:25:10 pm »

DAMN THE TORPEDOES, FULL SPEED AHEAD!! --- sorry, Apollo, that one has already been done.

I thought that the Pegasus commanders decision to go to engineering was a good one, and probably better than in some other movies I have seen where the captain is on the bridge on the intercom saying "get the engines on line dammit!" The commander went to where he could make his weight most felt in the battle. That made sense. The illogical part was he should have ordered some flunky into the compartment.

However... I think the Pegasus is poisoned. Under peacetime conditions, you would have to wait until the command and crew rotated in order to have any chance at all at solving the operating atmosphere problems aboard that ship. In wartime, the ship is destined for disaster. I hope it doesnt take Apollo with it.

Frack the recon, we are getting our men?! Get the scouts out front, and never never never go in blind.

Villa

The_Joker · « **Reply #91 on:** February 18, 2006, 09:28:23 pm »

I may have missed something here, but I'm not sure I agree with the decision to give Lee command. I think he can handle it, and I also think that this is definately the time for a battlefield promotion, but two in less than two months? And skipping a rank, also? It seems to me that, technically, the command should have went to Tigh, though he's probably not the best man for the job, and lee should have been made XO.

That said, the better choice was made, as Tigh isn't exactly fit for command, but he's a decent enough XO. Thing is, the wife's gonna have a fit, and he's going to end up on the sauce worse than ever. If this isn't the case, I'll be surprised and also greatly think the wrong decision was made. If Tigh is man enough to see that he's not ready, it could point to the fact that now he is.....

I don't know...

Villa64 · « **Reply #92 on:** February 20, 2006, 10:04:34 pm »

Joker you got it, bro. Sink or swim, Tigh was the right choice. The other choice basically torpedoes both Tigh (aboard Glactica: hey, what up with that drunk?), and Apollo (aboard Pegasus: daddy's pick) as far as credibility go. Getting Tigh over to Pegasus would have given Tigh a fresh start, and he already demonstrated command ability when Adama went down. Didnt like it, but that's the breaks.

TheJudge · « **Reply #93 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:11:02 am »

I think you folks are selling Lee Adama short on several levels:

1. Commander Lee Adam has repeatedly shown his independent thinking from his father's several times since the destruction of the colonies. On the day of the attack itself, he defied his father and supported the goals of the new President. When then Commander (now Admiral) Adama ordered the President arrested, Lee Adama refused to carry out the order and was arrested by Colonel Tigh. You better believe the scuttlebutt about those events in the fleet are well known and people know that Lee Adama is not a 'yes man' for his father, but rather has his own mind and is capable of making his own decisions in his own right.

2. As the XO of the Pegasus, even if only for a short time, he showed that he knew what he was doing far better than the Chief Engineer-turned Commander. Apollo knew it was a trap based on the intel pieced together by Starbuck. He told the Commander that, and told that to the Admiral. He was removed from the bridge by the old Commander because he refused to back down from that position. When the three basestars jumped in, he was proven right. You better believe the command crew in the CIC during that event are telling everyone they know on board that Apollo was right all along...

3. Thanks to the efforts of the Commander who never should have left engineering, the Pegasus was able to get out of the mess, but it was their new commander's fighting tactics that kept them alive long enough for the engines to be fixed.

4. When the old Commander left the ship in Apollo's hands, that left a legitimacy to his presence, much like the legitimacy of the Engineer having been a part of the Pegasus's command structure under Cain. Tigh would be seen as nothing but Adama's flunky sitting on their bridge. Apollos is his own man, as he's proven over and over again, and he was there when the dung hit the fan, and he got them out of the jam they were in. That will count for a lot to any crew.

5. Tigh would be the worst possible choice. First of all, you know damn well the fleet hasn't forgotten his martial law at the first part of the season, no one has forgotten his drinking, and his power-hungry wife. Beyond that, he isn't a good Commander, and he knows it, admits it, and reiterates it any chance he gets. He is a good XO, a good right hand man, but he knows the command is not for him and doesn't want it.

The_Joker · « **Reply #94 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:06:10 am »

My main point was this. If I'm correctly understanding the rank structure. It goes Captain, Major, Colonel, Commander. So..basically what we've got here is a guy who jumps from O-3 to O-6 in less than two months. I just don't see this as extremely realistic, even in a time of war.

Had it been me, I'd have given the nod to Tigh, promoted Apollo to Colonel and made him permament XO of Pegasus (as a counterbalance to Tigh), and found a new XO for Galactica. You've got to remember that Pegusus is coming off of a basically inept commander, a corrupt one, and a possibly half insane one. Tigh's drinking problem would be kids play to these guys. I personally think Tigh's problem with command at the time is that it was thrust upon him at the worst possible time and he buckled under the pressure. With Admiral Adama there to offer counsel and Lee Adama as an XO, I think he'd be able to handle it, provided somebody put a bullet in his good for nothing wife.

762_XC · « **Reply #95 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:53:51 am »

Joker, I disagree with you about Tigh. Garner was promoted because he was next in line. Admiral Adama acknowledged his error in doing so - he promoted Garner based on rank and seniority, even though his skill set was totally inadequate to the position.

Adama knows Tigh's weaknesses better than anybody. Aside from the drinking and the wife, Tigh's command style is direct and almost always along military lines, with almost no out of the box thinking. While he undoubtedly would have been more competent than Garner from a military perspective, Lee has consistently shown more imagination and initiative when faced with complex problems.

Adama learned from his mistake - promoting the wrong person for the right reason. He knew Lee was the right person, even if it defied military protocol.

TheJudge · « **Reply #96 on:** February 25, 2006, 06:50:10 pm »

I am so fracking pissed. Our cable company shut off our advanced channels last night saying we hadn't paid the bill (boy are they eating crow this morning when a very pissed off yours truly went down there and had a little chat. I ended up on the phone with the idiot frack-head who had the advanced cable channels shut off, and managed to let her know exactly how upset I am. The fact that the show is repeated on Monday doesn't mean one Gods-Damned thing.

I still missed Friday's episode and I have so been looking forward to it...

Cable's back on now, and with a credit for the inconvenience...I just asked if they could arrange to re-show BSG for me before Monday. No such luck.

Sirgod · « **Reply #97 on:** February 25, 2006, 08:01:42 pm »

Quote from: TheJudge on February 25, 2006, 06:50:10 pm

I am so fracking pissed. Our cable company shut off our advanced channels last night saying we hadn't paid the bill (boy are they eating crow this morning when a very pissed off yours truly went down there and had a little chat. I ended up on the phone with the idiot frack-head who had the advanced cable channels shut off, and managed to let her know exactly how upset I am. The fact that the show is repeated on Monday doesn't mean one Gods-Damned thing.

I still missed Friday's episode and I have so been looking forward to it...

Cable's back on now, and with a credit for the inconvenience...I just asked if they could arrange to re-show BSG for me before Monday. No such luck.

I might be able to Pay ya Back Judge... I watched It via the whole all in wonder thingie on my PC. If It saved, I'll send you the cd.

Stephen

Villa64 · « **Reply #98 on:** February 25, 2006, 08:16:17 pm »

SPOILER!!

Baltar is in #6's head?

Is there a third power here that we dont know about?
Or is Baltar a Cylon?

AAAAAAUUGH!

762_XC · « **Reply #99 on:** February 25, 2006, 09:22:14 pm »

I love that role reversal!

I don't think Baltar is IN her head so much as a manifestation of her guilty conscience.

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