Topic: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE  (Read 22126 times)

0 Members and 6 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Death_Merchant

  • Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 3639
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2006, 11:03:12 pm »
I've not seen an official announcement, and I avoid rumor sites...

but in his blog on scifi.com, Ron Moore talksabout having starting work on season 3.
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams (1952-2001)

Offline Capt_Bearslayer_XC

  • "Sorry I haven't been around much lately. I'm easily distracted by shiney things."
  • XenoCorp® Member
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 9558
  • Gender: Male
  • Virtute non verbis
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2006, 07:40:35 pm »
My only qualm with this episode now is this:

We have already seen that the Galactica has video surveillance of their bridge.... does the Peggy not have that?

B/c Baltar & Gina's little escape attempt should have been foiled by that....
Political Correctness is really Political Censorship

A tax code should exist to procure the funds necessary for the operation of government, not to manipulate human or business behavior.

A nocens dies in loricatus est melior quam a bonus dies procul opus.

A bad peace is even worse than war."  --  Tacitus

"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it" -Claude Castonguay

762_XC

  • Guest
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2006, 09:17:14 pm »
What I'm wondering is why did they not have one in Six's cell? You would think with the obsession they had with exctracting every possible bit of info from Six while abusing the crap out of her in the process, they would have had a fracking camera in there.

Of course maybe they did, and Baltar's in for a real bad day.

Offline Death_Merchant

  • Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 3639
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2006, 09:59:27 pm »
What I'm wondering is why did they not have one in Six's cell? You would think with the obsession they had with exctracting every possible bit of info from Six while abusing the crap out of her in the process, they would have had a fracking camera in there.

Ron Moore (after spending many years doing Trek) would likely respond thus:

Look, I'm sure we could write a few pages of technobabble to explain how she escaped. "bypass security protocols, Cylon virus, Baltar blacks out security while making it look like a Cylon virus remnant, etc." Who cares? It's not a part of the story. Let's not waste time on it.

Ironically, for those of you who are familiar with the original writer's bible: there was a passage warning writers about explaining the technology or happenings: In a police show, the cop doesn't have to explain why his gun just wounded the bad guy & he gets away. He just does...
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams (1952-2001)

Offline Bartok

  • Lt. Junior Grade
  • *
  • Posts: 293
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2006, 11:27:09 pm »
One other thing about this last episode...the huge battle scene was played down by the knowledge of what MIGHT take place after the battle is over, and of course by Apollo's EVA experience, but it was extremely well done.  Seeing two Battlestars blasting away at a Base Star until it started to blow up while the 2nd Base Star maneuvered in for a shot at Pegasus was just fantastic.  Then the way the fighters attacked the Resurrection ship was just a wonderful sight to see...all those cylon bodies going out the shattered plexiglass windows was amazing. 

The whole 'combat' feel is so different from Star Trek that it is a joy to watch...


I was definitely looking forward to the battle sequence too, and while it WAS played down by the assasination/coup possibilities it was AWESOME.  One thing I find really compelling and interesting in how they do battles is the lack of sound effects.  "In Space No One Can Hear You Scream"  ;)

Seeing all that damage occur without the usual sound effects of Trek and other series is unique and refreshing in a lot of ways

Offline TheJudge

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5695
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2006, 12:09:37 pm »
Yeah, the only sound effects they usually use are what you might hear if you were inside one of the ships, something that I also appreciate. 

He who can master the data controls the world.

Offline GDA-S'Cipio

  • Brucimus Maximus
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5749
  • Gender: Male
  • If I took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy.
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2006, 01:36:27 pm »
One other thing about this last episode...the huge battle scene was played down by the knowledge of what MIGHT take place after the battle is over, and of course by Apollo's EVA experience, but it was extremely well done.  Seeing two Battlestars blasting away at a Base Star until it started to blow up while the 2nd Base Star maneuvered in for a shot at Pegasus was just fantastic.  Then the way the fighters attacked the Resurrection ship was just a wonderful sight to see...all those cylon bodies going out the shattered plexiglass windows was amazing. 

The whole 'combat' feel is so different from Star Trek that it is a joy to watch...


I concurr with your combat comments.  I was glad to have this one on tape, so I could just watch it straight through the first time for the story, then go back and replay bits to see the battle unfold.

As for the cylon bodies, that brought up another question in my mind that I should have already thought of.  All the bodies were human.

When humanoid Cylons are killed, their minds upload to the resurrection center and they get reborn in a new body.  (If they are in range.)  What happens to the toaster Cylons when they die?  I must assume that they are as intelligent and as self-aware as the humanoid Cylons, since the toasters built the humanoids.   Do they not care about death?

-S'Cipio
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."  - James Madison (chief author of the Constitution)

-----------------------------------------
Gorn Dragon Alliance member
Gorn Dragon Templar
Coulda' used a little more cowbell
-----------------------------------------


Offline Bartok

  • Lt. Junior Grade
  • *
  • Posts: 293
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2006, 01:58:48 pm »

I concurr with your combat comments.  I was glad to have this one on tape, so I could just watch it straight through the first time for the story, then go back and replay bits to see the battle unfold.

As for the cylon bodies, that brought up another question in my mind that I should have already thought of.  All the bodies were human.

When humanoid Cylons are killed, their minds upload to the resurrection center and they get reborn in a new body.  (If they are in range.)  What happens to the toaster Cylons when they die?  I must assume that they are as intelligent and as self-aware as the humanoid Cylons, since the toasters built the humanoids.   Do they not care about death?

-S'Cipio

Interesting Point.  I see the humanoids as the "evolved" higher order Cylong, hence = more valuable.  Since their goal seems to be to find an alternate means of "reproduction" by crossing w/humans they're more precious to the cylon community in the long run...

As emotions/love seem to be the missing link in achieving this the higher cognitive abilities -- the self awarenes may be limited to the humanoid versions?  Imagine how love can screw with your programming :D

No doubt the toasters retreated and evolved.  We know cylon computer programs are heuristic and advanced along a path in their isolation.  Perhaps the self awareness is a byproduct of early repeated replications??  A la, Heinleins Starship Troopers.  "A colony gets to a certain size and it makes the brain bug" so to speak. 

In a semi "Trek" way they may likely have some components which are "borglike"   I'm anticipating that (if more comes out of it) the raider craft (250+ on a basestar!!!) will be considered just another type of cylon.  Not having 3 pilots as in the original cheeze version.  To be sure, they have craft which carry the toasters, but when there's a need to do so, troop deployment, commando raids etc.

Just chiming in

Offline Death_Merchant

  • Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 3639
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2006, 03:22:02 pm »

As for the cylon bodies, that brought up another question in my mind that I should have already thought of.  All the bodies were human.

Possible explanation (from the twisted mind of DM)

1) Graphics guy at Zoic is asked to depict the "Ressurection Ship" going boom...
2) Graphics guy creates several mental images of concepts
3) Blow up robots?  See Naked Sixes?
4) Hmmmmmmm
Conclusion reached as the insidious effects of testosterone does its work....

NAKID SIX NAKID SIX NAKID SIX!!!!!
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams (1952-2001)

Offline TheJudge

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5695
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2006, 07:35:33 pm »
The graphics in this episode really were top-notch. 


Now this upcoming episode for tomorrow night really does look quite interesting.  The abortion story with the cylon/human baby will be interesting to watch, especially since I've stayed away from spoilers.  Also interesting will be how they show these 'cylon sympathizers'.

Maybe Fisk will shoot them all from the pegasus.


Back to the space battle, I thought it was really well done from a tactical point as well.  Galactica and Pegasus jumped in nearest one of the two basestars and both of them started hammering the cylon ship.  Then they launched vipers to go after the Resurrection ship (after it was disabled from FTL jump).  By the time the first base star was blowing up, the second had closed on Pegasus and was just starting to hammer her hard when the Resurrection ship blew up.  At that point, all the cylons jumped away, in retreat.  Not a bad battle at all...
He who can master the data controls the world.

Offline NJAntman

  • Lt. Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 1565
  • Gender: Male
  • Jusssst short of a 1000 Taldren posts, damn!!
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2006, 03:54:13 pm »

As for the cylon bodies, that brought up another question in my mind that I should have already thought of.  All the bodies were human.

Possible explanation (from the twisted mind of DM)

1) Graphics guy at Zoic is asked to depict the "Ressurection Ship" going boom...
2) Graphics guy creates several mental images of concepts
3) Blow up robots?  See Naked Sixes?
4) Hmmmmmmm
Conclusion reached as the insidious effects of testosterone does its work....

NAKID SIX NAKID SIX NAKID SIX!!!!!


Are you saying there were naked Sixes in those shots?! Dammit, I didn't Tivo. >:(
G.R.I.P. - Great Rid of Incumbent Politicians

Offline TheJudge

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5695
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2006, 04:17:06 pm »
I tivo'd..and yes naked sixes.  Of course I tivod for the battle scenes and the jamie bamber floating in water scenes.  Hunk-a-licious!
He who can master the data controls the world.

Offline NJAntman

  • Lt. Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 1565
  • Gender: Male
  • Jusssst short of a 1000 Taldren posts, damn!!
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2006, 05:24:29 pm »
Not my cup of tea, but still I raise my Tivo remote and salute you for your foresight. Try not to wear out the slow button.
G.R.I.P. - Great Rid of Incumbent Politicians

Offline Capt_Bearslayer_XC

  • "Sorry I haven't been around much lately. I'm easily distracted by shiney things."
  • XenoCorp® Member
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 9558
  • Gender: Male
  • Virtute non verbis
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2006, 08:41:48 pm »
*sigh* getting my BSG fix before I go to work and miss another new episode....

Have to admit that Col Fisk was cool as hell saving Helo & the Chief's butt from the towelling.

Even though he did fall back on the 'can't rape a machine' thing to end it... such duality with every one.

Also love the talk between Boomer & Adama... "I mean 'hate' might not be the word...."

And Apollo should know better than to be doing anything more than watching where he is going in a combat situation....
Political Correctness is really Political Censorship

A tax code should exist to procure the funds necessary for the operation of government, not to manipulate human or business behavior.

A nocens dies in loricatus est melior quam a bonus dies procul opus.

A bad peace is even worse than war."  --  Tacitus

"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it" -Claude Castonguay

Offline Capt_Bearslayer_XC

  • "Sorry I haven't been around much lately. I'm easily distracted by shiney things."
  • XenoCorp® Member
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 9558
  • Gender: Male
  • Virtute non verbis
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2006, 08:44:31 pm »
Oh yeah... you'd think the Colonials would have simple repair kits attached to either the suit or the ejection seat dontcha?

Do the colonials have duct tape?!?!?  After all... it binds the known universe together....
Political Correctness is really Political Censorship

A tax code should exist to procure the funds necessary for the operation of government, not to manipulate human or business behavior.

A nocens dies in loricatus est melior quam a bonus dies procul opus.

A bad peace is even worse than war."  --  Tacitus

"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it" -Claude Castonguay

Offline TheJudge

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5695
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2006, 11:50:18 pm »
Starbuck had duct tape.

Tonight's is DAMN good as well.
He who can master the data controls the world.

Offline TheJudge

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5695
  • Gender: Male
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2006, 12:06:10 am »
GOD DAMN RON MOORE TO FRACKING HELL!


I expected a pure crap episode.  Instead we got a decent episode with one Fracking Hell of an ending!
He who can master the data controls the world.

Offline Capt_Bearslayer_XC

  • "Sorry I haven't been around much lately. I'm easily distracted by shiney things."
  • XenoCorp® Member
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 9558
  • Gender: Male
  • Virtute non verbis
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2006, 03:28:42 pm »
LOL.... you're right.... good episode....

Loved the dream sequences and how Baltar & Six were so prominently seen in them. 

Should prove to be more interesting if they follow thru on those dreams....
Political Correctness is really Political Censorship

A tax code should exist to procure the funds necessary for the operation of government, not to manipulate human or business behavior.

A nocens dies in loricatus est melior quam a bonus dies procul opus.

A bad peace is even worse than war."  --  Tacitus

"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it" -Claude Castonguay

Offline IAF Lyrkiller

  • Semi retired, but I am still around
  • D.Net Beta Tester
  • Lt. Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 1321
  • Gender: Male
  • JAG & Tech Support
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2006, 06:53:56 am »
Can anyone here burn me copies of the second season of BSG?

Please, w/ a cherry on top. ;D




KAT-Lyrkiller
Semi-retired
Captain of the MSC Maus
MEMBER OF KLAW
SILENCE.....I keel you!!!

Offline GDA-S'Cipio

  • Brucimus Maximus
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5749
  • Gender: Male
  • If I took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy.
Re: New Battlestar Galactica Episodes are HERE
« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2006, 11:09:44 pm »
Oh yeah... you'd think the Colonials would have simple repair kits attached to either the suit or the ejection seat dontcha?

Do the colonials have duct tape?!?!?  After all... it binds the known universe together....

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.  That wasn't the point.  He squezed the tear shut for a few seconds, then decided he *wanted* to die.  So any repair kits he had would not have been used.

Death Merchant:  I got a real laugh out of your analysis!    ;D :thumbsup:  You might very well have nailed it on the head!

-S'Cipio
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."  - James Madison (chief author of the Constitution)

-----------------------------------------
Gorn Dragon Alliance member
Gorn Dragon Templar
Coulda' used a little more cowbell
-----------------------------------------