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What should be done to the design ?

Leave it alone and just retexture it
2 (10.5%)
Leave it alone and build a better model
7 (36.8%)
Loose the 'Miranda' influence
1 (5.3%)
Loose the 'Oberth' influence
1 (5.3%)
Loose both 'Miranda' and 'Oberth' influence's
0 (0%)
Create a new design that makes more sense
8 (42.1%)

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Voting closed: January 03, 2006, 04:34:15 pm

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Missouri Class BB
« on: December 20, 2005, 04:34:15 pm »
Ok here we go. I figure to give everyone a voice I'd start a poll about this idea.

MISSOURI CLASS BB



The Missouri class Battleship is one of the best classes of ships in the Federation. It has a very strong set of shields backed up by a strong hull and large amount of weaponry. An interesting fact about its hull design is that it appears to be a hybrid of an Oberth class ship and with a Miranda class saucer section (both sections enlarged of course). This design has allowed the Missouri to carry an unusually large amount of torpedo tubes (five) and still have enough space to mount an assault phaser on the lower pod's spine and have enough spare power for one QCB. The power drain of all of these weapons means that the Missouri class ships have a large set of fusion reactors, separate from the impulse reactor system, which constantly supply power to the main grid during battle. This means that, whenever the a Missouri class ship enters battle, it will definitely have enough power to charge all of its weapons. But unfortunately, it has an almost pathetic top speed (compared to other Federation ships) and a low maneuverability. It has three warp nacelles mounted, directly it seems, on the hull of the ship. This is a great testament to the ship’s strength because warp nacelles are put on pylons for a reason: so that when they warp space they don’t accidentally tear the ship that they are on apart.



SPECS:
Length: 793 meters
Mass: 2,150,000 metric tonnes
Crew: 1,100
Marines: 90
Maximum Impuse: 1,140 kellicams per second
Hull Rating: 9.4
Shield Rating: 198.3
Maneuverability Rating: .24/.06 1,300

WEAPONS:
Fore: 6 phasers, 6 photons, Quantum Carrier Beam
Aft: 5 phasers, 4 photons
Port/Starboard: 4 phasers each

This is what we have to start with, question is ......Where do we go with it, if anywhere ? Imput please folks  ;D
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2005, 05:15:01 pm »
The Missouri is not a carrier ..  it's a BB
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2005, 05:37:37 pm »
Seriously: Since when are Trek ships generally plausable enough a design, let alone one from the specific time frame it comes from?  We have the NX-01, a 24th Century-lookin' 22nd-century Starship.  The Constitution-class that has quite the thin neck for a saucer like that and probably wouldn't realistically hold on tight.  We have a Voyager-esque shuttlecraft goin' at Transwarp speeds mutating people in 'em into reptiles.  We have a class of starship where you can put torpedo launchers everywhere and it looks like performance hasn't changed a bit aside from an implausable weapons upgrade in order to face the super-fanboy ship in our last Star Trek movie...

So I wouldn't fret over the design of the Missouri-class.  I'd say leave it as is and maybe make a model of it if you want.  Tinker around for variants, maybe.  But it's your call, you decide what you want, Ol'.
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2005, 09:14:30 pm »
I think it'd be interesting to see what could be done with the KA Missouri's basic layout... 
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2005, 11:11:36 am »
So far looks like the original ship just updated is winning.
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2005, 12:33:55 pm »
Ok here's a first attempt WIP ...........

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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2005, 12:44:26 pm »
why is it latelly im finding tmp era ships likeable ROFL usually i like just tng but these latest designs the missouri and yamato im totally loving them awesome work modelsplease cant wait to see the complete version
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2005, 01:18:06 pm »
Ok did 2 more nacelles varients to look at ....................
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2005, 02:00:11 pm »
I like the nacelle configuration on the right the best !
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2005, 02:22:55 pm »
Personally, I'd go with the X-form nacelle configuration. I just think that it fots the design better.

Also, not to nitpick, but the 'necks' look a little thin. ON the Oberth, the engineering hull is automated and only accessed in spacedock- but on this monster, it's goign to have to be manned. Unless those guys are going to beam to their battlestations, well, I think the necks would need to be a bit thicker.

Right now, they look like they'd snap the first time the ship tried a turn.
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2005, 03:34:48 pm »
make it into two models then

have the one on the right from this one


and keep this one also
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2005, 07:12:29 pm »
They all have a certain FASA quality about them which isn't working for me personally.  And I'd have to agree with J. Carney about the "necks"--this is a battleship, f'cryin' out loud, it should be built like one.  :)
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2005, 08:25:50 am »
Quote from: Captain Pierce on December 22, 2005, 07:12:29 pm
They all have a certain FASA quality about them which isn't working for me personally.  And I'd have to agree with J. Carney about the "necks"--this is a battleship, f'cryin' out loud, it should be built like one.  :)

I guess thanks would be in order if you think it has a FASA quality to it because it wasn't intentional at all. FASA and SFB don't even come to my mind when I designed this one. I just looked th the original and thought...'how do I beef this ship up without getting ubber stupid with the design ?' and 'what makes sense?'. "what can I do without straying too far from the original design ?' . Like I stated earlier, I'm just throwing out ideas here, and am gladd it's getting a varied response. I'll beeef up the 'necks and post a new wip shortly  ;). Personally I would like to see GAFY? retexture the original model. ;)
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2005, 09:09:40 am »
the only critique I would make might to be to change the angles of those areas that are "swept" back.  They just seem a bid odd.  ( Yeah ..  I know ..  a bit pickey).  Take a look at it and see what ya think.

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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2005, 01:56:21 pm »
WIP Update. I thinkened the supports as everyone requested..............

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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2005, 02:02:50 pm »
Ooops almost forgot, do we really wanna go with the x-wing nac formation ? Or does it stray to far from the original configuration ? I'm going to make one more WIP with 3 nacelles and we'll see what the popular opinion is after that. BTW all the previously posted versions are ready to go, one we get the final tally I'll get the selected one(s) off to texture  ;).

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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2005, 05:17:42 pm »
id keep the 2 nacelle and 4 nacelle config and keep it at that 3 nacelles dont look right
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2005, 11:32:32 pm »
Ok she's ready to be towed to paint. So as soon as I can she'll be leaving OutaLance Shipyards and be towed to her temporary home at Starbase 777 for completion.  ;)
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2005, 10:16:51 am »
I like the quad-nacelle config with the X, not inline. - Perhps a 4-nacelle config with two off the saucer ala Mars might be neat too.
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Re: Missouri Class BB
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2005, 12:35:34 pm »
Hey Fury are you going to be doing any bashing soon. I'm still wondering about the Excelsior bash I had asked ya about ways back.

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