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Do you think Hexx should include the D7T in the Klingon War Server?

Yes, I want my Magic Photons!
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No, Photons are for Feddies!
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Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« on: December 15, 2005, 06:33:14 pm »
Just wondering how people felt about this, so Hexx could get some feedback if he wanted it or not  ;D

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2005, 06:54:49 pm »
Didn't Hexx already say that it wasn't going to be appearing in its normal form?

Personally, in a land where the bulk of the fleet will be beating each other senseless with disruptors, I think the addition of photons might add a little bit of tobasco to the tomato soup, but that is just me (A Fed ;) )
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2005, 07:00:31 pm »
Actually Hexx said that it's either going to be expensive or a modified form.
Probably strip the AMD out, or reduce the excessive Ph1's to Ph2's.
Or both..
or just price it at 15K or so

And again, why is the E3Y never brought up in these questions?

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2005, 07:05:02 pm »
Actually Hexx said that it's either going to be expensive or a modified form.
Probably strip the AMD out, or reduce the excessive Ph1's to Ph2's.
Or both..
or just price it at 15K or so

And again, why is the E3Y never brought up in these questions?

What's with the D7h8?

Why not change the ADD12 to ADD6 and change the Ph2 to Ph3?
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2005, 07:13:04 pm »
Well Hexx, then lets get the skinny on this so we know whether to get the tar and feathers ready  ;)

Irregardless, there are some who might like to do without all the Klingon Photon boats, so I still think the poll is applicable.  With modifications or not I'd prefer a photon free Klingon Civil War.

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2005, 07:14:10 pm »
let them have their photons

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2005, 07:29:20 pm »
Well Hexx, then lets get the skinny on this so we know whether to get the tar and feathers ready  ;)

Irregardless, there are some who might like to do without all the Klingon Photon boats, so I still think the poll is applicable.  With modifications or not I'd prefer a photon free Klingon Civil War.

At least I can vote for both options! ;)  Might want to look at that hehe
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2005, 07:33:09 pm »
And again, why is the E3Y never brought up in these questions?


It has been

I think it could be fun to fly the E3Y or E4Y especially in a Nebula where you don't have to worry about being captured due to lack of boarding parties.  The F5Y is defective in that it has disruptors and cloak which is not an effective combination.
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2005, 07:52:54 pm »
Hmmm... C7T?

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2005, 08:20:00 pm »
Hmmm... C7T?

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.... Now there's an ecellent suggestion...
why should I bother with the stock C7's when I can add punch to them
by using them with photons!

So we can put C7T's in to replace the standard C7's!

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2005, 08:23:09 pm »
Why not just cover all the bases: C7TMm

Add a Mauler and some MIRVs and we have ALL the bases covered  :P
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2005, 08:23:50 pm »
You missed the PPDs

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2005, 08:31:51 pm »
and the I torps


Edit: but that would only be for late era ships

Edit Edit: are photons found in SFB klingons out of curiousity?
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2005, 08:44:40 pm »
and the I torps


Edit: but that would only be for late era ships

Edit Edit: are photons found in SFB klingons out of curiousity?

IIRC...no...But they are in the movies and several series...

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2005, 08:54:31 pm »
and the I torps


Edit: but that would only be for late era ships

Edit Edit: are photons found in SFB klingons out of curiousity?

The very first Klingon X-ship had photons. (oddly enough I actually had an SSD of this.. didn't have the game or any other ships though)
and I *think* in SFB lore- one ship modifed by "the masters" had them.
(Or it may have just been the original Xship)

But no,SFBwise no Klingon ship currently available has them.
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2005, 09:20:41 pm »
BTW...of all the "T" varients so far...the D5T is my personal favorite...

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2005, 10:11:03 pm »
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2005, 11:40:31 pm »
Mini if they need photons so be it, ya won't hear me bitch or whine

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2005, 01:06:52 am »
Bah Photons are for ridgehead Targs!

Let them eat disruptor!







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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2005, 01:25:39 am »
I agree Ducky I wont bitch or whine once its done but I also feel they don't belong.  Just saying my piece before it happens, after it starts its killing time!

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2005, 06:36:25 am »
On another note.... how about 'captured' ships?

This site has some interesting captured ships.... since each house is closer to one enemy or another... make captured kzinti, fed, & hydran ships available after conversion to 'superior' (:rofl:) Klingon technology to the houses (ie two houses can have kzinti, 2 houses get Fed, & 2 get Hydran; assuming we are at 6 houses that is).....
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2005, 06:45:51 am »
Why not let only the faction being 'supported covertly' by the Feds have the D7T?

If you wanted to go down this route, you could allow a little ( just a little ) tech leak from each majot power supporting a faction in their shipyards only.  Say, an ESG instead of AMD, G Torps ( but not a KRC in disguise as you would be stuck with Ph 2), Cloak variants, and of course a C7 with Two PPD FX arcs instead of the 4 Disruptors just for ME! ;D

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2005, 07:45:18 am »
We should be flying real Klingon ships.   I do not feel the D7T belongs but it is no big deal either way.

Hell, nobody even flew the X-variant on SGO5  ;D
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2005, 11:16:44 am »
I say leave them out.   

What self-respecting house would be willing to say that the Feds let them take over the Empire?  "Oh, please Mr. Fed, can I have some spandex jammies to wear as a uniform too?"

Bah!  Those houses honorless enough to use the D7T -- having been naughty in my sight -- shall snuff it.  Eat disruptor death, collaborator!!

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2005, 12:07:34 pm »
Farfarer:

I wonder what house you're flying for.  By your logic (Fed-supported house gets C7T), the PPD-equipped C7 (C7PPD?) would belong to the house being supported and led by a surgically-altered ISC operative...

I'm sure you might be able to figure out which house that is, right??? :D

On the official side, though not in the poll, as we're stripping out or severely restricting most "specialty" ships (droners, C7s, etc.), then I'm for placing the T and Y variants under restriction too.  I just don't know if we want them restricted completely off server yet, or allow a couple of each to fly...

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2005, 01:53:40 pm »
Look at the linne forming at the welfare station hoping for handouts of photons, captured ships, and even PPD.....I guess since its Christmas time they are expecting charity, unfortunatly the salvation army in the Klingon empire just sends you to Stovokor with a swift swing of the blade, I trust Hexx will do likewise.  :P ;D ;)

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2005, 01:58:58 pm »
Stealing Wandy's pic from the What if thread.

If we use the D7T can somebody make a new model that looks like this.....




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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2005, 10:44:58 pm »
Stealing Wandy's pic from the What if thread.

If we use the D7T can somebody make a new model that looks like this.....




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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2005, 11:34:00 pm »
It looks, magic  ;D
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2005, 04:51:24 pm »
This is all bull.  I want a mirak-type ship.  One that has disrupters & drones!  But maybe with a better turning rate...like a klingon ship.

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2005, 10:47:11 pm »
We have a pretty good split going right now, 17 say yes and 17 say no.   :huh:
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2005, 11:11:16 pm »
Well I have abstained for two reasons

#1...it's in the klink list...its a klink ship...end of story

#2..it hexx's server...and up to him to decide....taking a poll only divides the players...

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2005, 11:17:41 pm »
Photons are for Feds.  8)

But my honorable enemy is correct...if it's in the list, cool.
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2005, 01:49:25 am »
taking a poll only divides the players...

Bingo.

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2005, 02:10:00 am »
Those who reply and those who don't.    ;)
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2005, 11:54:09 am »
Is using a shuttle to distract the magic Photons a legit tactics?  ;D
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2005, 06:36:05 pm »
  I would say yes go for it either that or use shipedit and replace the dissies with photons.rofl. ;D :)I may play on this but I never know to much about D2 as I am a little busy over at StGamers it would be nice to hear what is going on over there as well.That inclused GuildWars as well.

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2005, 11:17:48 am »
Don't suppose you could restart this post and seperate it by those who belong to klingon fleets and those who don't.

My gut tells me most of the klingon pilots voted no and many non klingons voted to keep the d7T -- naturally I could be wrong.. but then again

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2005, 02:46:26 pm »
I suspect its more evenly balanced that you guess Ducky, remember War Sears likely voted for the photons  ;D

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2005, 06:44:17 pm »
Don't suppose you could restart this post and seperate it by those who belong to klingon fleets and those who don't.

My gut tells me most of the klingon pilots voted no and many non klingons voted to keep the d7T -- naturally I could be wrong.. but then again

Duck

Actually I voted for it specifically to allow those who don't normally play Klingons to have a few ships that are different and might give them more incentive to fly this server.
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2005, 06:57:00 pm »
Don't suppose you could restart this post and seperate it by those who belong to klingon fleets and those who don't.

My gut tells me most of the klingon pilots voted no and many non klingons voted to keep the d7T -- naturally I could be wrong.. but then again

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I think you got that bass ackwards...

As someone who exclusively flies klink...not only do I not have a problem with it...I'd like a couple other hulls to have the varient also...the C7T was quite popular...and I'd personaly LOVE to see the D5T make a reappearance one of these days...

I can say this with a straight face...

The Photon is the MOST versatile weapon in the simulation.....In fact..I never learned how to use it effectively UNTIL  I started flying klink and got used to the dizzy...

I abstained.....but If I where to vote...it would be to leave em in...

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2005, 07:31:07 pm »
Yeah you big bass... fish... butt thing.

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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2005, 12:00:26 pm »
I voted against it but I do not think it's a big deal either way.   The D7W is a better ship anyway.
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Re: Klingon Civil War and the D7T
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2005, 04:13:41 pm »
 A little OT here but Crim you say this is Hexx's server oh boy Crash and Burn. :D