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Offline Mazeppa

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GameSpy: what up?
« on: December 04, 2005, 10:12:54 pm »
I went to Gamespy planning to play some chess or poker, and did not find those gaming venues any more.  Are they gone?
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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2005, 12:02:04 am »
Zeppa,

The overly political sig?  What's up with that?  As I am sure you must know, a number of world organizations have determined that a majority of those people being held in Gitmo as you call it are indeed not terrorists and have been not been charged with anything, nor do these so-called enemy combatants have any access to American Courts to determine whether or not their detention is even legal.  And as far as I know, their detention is not legal under International Law and the Geneva Convention which I believe the current administration that I assume that you also "heart" characterized as quaint and irrelevant.  Considering the excesses of Abu Garabe which I believe John McHain, a Vietnam POW, Senator from Arizona, and a firm supporter of Geneva Conventions, has publicly denounced, and the thousands of civilian deaths due to American tactics in Iraq, and the instability brought to the entire region by this illegal war, I find little reason to support the actions of this adminstration in their supposed War on Terror, be it the imprisonment of countless people uncharged in Gitmo, the policy of extraordinary rendition that sends prisoners to countries in which torture is not illegal, or the torturous twisting of principles of human decency and rights to propose a redefinition of torture itself such that it would be perfectly legal at the request of this adminstration.

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Axe the jingoistic sig and let's keep it light and breezy where it supposed to be light and breezy.  Express your poltical opinions in Hot and Spicy with your words and not some trite iconography here.
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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2005, 12:37:10 am »
In before the lock!
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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2005, 02:43:23 am »
In before the lock!

Me too  :popcorn: :drink:

Oh here Mat let me share  :popcorn:

oh okay I'll give you a beer too.....

 :drink:

 :drinkinsong:

I knew I shouldn't have givenMatt that beer  :P




P.S.  I have to agree with Lepton on the general principle, excepting the soul judgement part as I don't think anyone here is qualified to do that..
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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005, 05:32:21 am »
P.S.  I have to agree with Lepton on the general principle, excepting the soul judgement part as I don't think anyone here is qualified to do that..


You'd have a point except that it's well within Lepton's power to turn off sigs if he finds some so offensive. That, and calling it an illegal war pretty much just made his whole post ' political ' as well.

Now hand me another Guinness, bar boy.  ;D
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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2005, 06:08:34 am »
Zeppa,

The overly political sig?  What's up with that?  As I am sure you must know, a number of world organizations have determined that a majority of those people being held in Gitmo as you call it are indeed not terrorists and have been not been charged with anything, nor do these so-called enemy combatants have any access to American Courts to determine whether or not their detention is even legal.  And as far as I know, their detention is not legal under International Law and the Geneva Convention which I believe the current administration that I assume that you also "heart" characterized as quaint and irrelevant.  Considering the excesses of Abu Garabe which I believe John McHain, a Vietnam POW, Senator from Arizona, and a firm supporter of Geneva Conventions, has publicly denounced, and the thousands of civilian deaths due to American tactics in Iraq, and the instability brought to the entire region by this illegal war, I find little reason to support the actions of this adminstration in their supposed War on Terror, be it the imprisonment of countless people uncharged in Gitmo, the policy of extraordinary rendition that sends prisoners to countries in which torture is not illegal, or the torturous twisting of principles of human decency and rights to propose a redefinition of torture itself such that it would be perfectly legal at the request of this adminstration.

If you believe in a god, I lament the fate of your soul in that afterlife you must hold so dear.

Axe the jingoistic sig and let's keep it light and breezy where it supposed to be light and breezy.  Express your poltical opinions in Hot and Spicy with your words and not some trite iconography here.

So do you know anything about Gamespy?
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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2005, 07:02:30 am »
P.S.  I have to agree with Lepton on the general principle, excepting the soul judgement part as I don't think anyone here is qualified to do that..


You'd have a point except that it's well within Lepton's power to turn off sigs if he finds some so offensive. That, and calling it an illegal war pretty much just made his whole post ' political ' as well.

Now hand me another Guinness, bar boy.  ;D

Agree about Lepton's "illegal war" line too, Hot and Spicy stuff there,a very good point but you disqualified it with the turn off the sigs  remark since  noone has to read that either they can just turn off the  thread.. Such an argument works for me on Hot & Spicy because it is somewhere you ask to be admitted to, but not here.


Oh and here is your beer, we don't agree but we are still buddies,   :drink:  same for you Zeppa political diferences can be good among friends, after all you like them enough to listen to them more, if all my friends thought like I did I'd have very boring friends. Have a beer on me Zeppa  :drink:

I would ask you to reconsider the sig too however in a polite and non assuming way.  Either way I'm going to Shut the hell up after this post so I won't be bothering anyone further, just serving beers to all  :drink: :drink: :drink:    ;D

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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2005, 11:18:46 am »
Zeppa,

The overly political sig?  What's up with that?  As I am sure you must know, a number of world organizations have determined that a majority of those people being held in Gitmo as you call it are indeed not terrorists and have been not been charged with anything, nor do these so-called enemy combatants have any access to American Courts to determine whether or not their detention is even legal.  And as far as I know, their detention is not legal under International Law and the Geneva Convention which I believe the current administration that I assume that you also "heart" characterized as quaint and irrelevant.  Considering the excesses of Abu Garabe which I believe John McHain, a Vietnam POW, Senator from Arizona, and a firm supporter of Geneva Conventions, has publicly denounced, and the thousands of civilian deaths due to American tactics in Iraq, and the instability brought to the entire region by this illegal war, I find little reason to support the actions of this adminstration in their supposed War on Terror, be it the imprisonment of countless people uncharged in Gitmo, the policy of extraordinary rendition that sends prisoners to countries in which torture is not illegal, or the torturous twisting of principles of human decency and rights to propose a redefinition of torture itself such that it would be perfectly legal at the request of this adminstration.

If you believe in a god, I lament the fate of your soul in that afterlife you must hold so dear.

Axe the jingoistic sig and let's keep it light and breezy where it supposed to be light and breezy.  Express your poltical opinions in Hot and Spicy with your words and not some trite iconography here.


So do you know anything about Gamespy?




The perspicacity of your political ideology mirrors that of your Gamespy search for your games of interest.  From Gamespy Parlor Games Lobby:
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GameSpy Arcade's Parlor Games: Shutdown Notice

Dear GameSpy Classic Games Users:

As of October 24 2005, we have discontinued offering all of GameSpy Arcade's free "Parlor Games." This includes Backgammon, Checkers, Chess, Hearts, Poker, Spades, and Y.A.R.N. These games have been shut down and removed from the Arcade software.

While we understand that this removal is sudden, it is of crucial importance; we discovered that a flaw in their code poses a newly emerging security risk to our users. We do not tolerate these risks, and so have taken immediate steps to shut this particular issue down while we investigate the feasibility of a fix.

We would like to highlight that this issue extends ONLY to Arcade's Parlor Games and NOT to any other areas of GameSpy Arcade; the rest of the software is stable and safe. We also have no evidence to suggest that any users were affected by the vulnerability; we believe we acted before any damage could be done. Whatever risks were posed have been completely removed.

The parlor games lobbies will remain open so that loyal users of these games can continue to communicate with one another and possibly migrate to another parlor games service. You may also continue to enjoy Arcade's support for over 600 PC-based multiplayer games, all of which may be played risk-free.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact GameSpy Customer Support at http://support.gamespy.com




If you'd like to play poker online, there are many venues for that.  PokerStars, PartyPoker, FullTiltPoker, Hold'emPoker, etc, etc.  I am sure there are any number of other venues from those type of games including those offered by Yahoo, MSN, pogo.com, what-have-you.  Don't know what the best site is for any of that, but I'm sure you can find one to your liking.


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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2005, 03:35:17 pm »
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While we understand that this removal is sudden, it is of crucial importance; we discovered that a flaw in their code poses a newly emerging security risk to our users. We do not tolerate these risks, and so have taken immediate steps to shut this particular issue down while we investigate the feasibility of a fix.


translation:  this portion of gamespy was losing money and we didn't want to update it so we got rid of it.  We thought that we'd screw those who played them...

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We would like to highlight that this issue extends ONLY to Arcade's Parlor Games and NOT to any other areas of GameSpy Arcade; the rest of the software is stable and safe. We also have no evidence to suggest that any users were affected by the vulnerability; we believe we acted before any damage could be done. Whatever risks were posed have been completely removed.


translation:  And no, we won't be bringing them back.

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The parlor games lobbies will remain open so that loyal users of these games can continue to communicate with one another and possibly migrate to another parlor games service. You may also continue to enjoy Arcade's support for over 600 PC-based multiplayer games, all of which may be played risk-free.


translation:and if you have any doubts...well...let the above verify that NO we won't be bringing them back, now go buy a game, or go to another website and stop wasting our bandwidth...

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If you have any questions, please feel free to contact GameSpy Customer Support at http://support.gamespy.com


translation:  Where you'll get our 24 hour automated service...known for working wonderful issues such as network problems and ping difficulties via our "new" and "improved" gamespy, and you'll get the same answer they always do...nothing's wrong...I repeat with my attempted Jedi Mind trick...nothing's wrong...

Real life:  Tongue and cheek translation above...failed my save and couldn't resist doing it.
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Re: GameSpy: what up?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2005, 05:20:22 pm »
Zeppa,

The overly political sig?  What's up with that?  As I am sure you must know, a number of world organizations have determined that a majority of those people being held in Gitmo as you call it are indeed not terrorists and have been not been charged with anything, nor do these so-called enemy combatants have any access to American Courts to determine whether or not their detention is even legal.  And as far as I know, their detention is not legal under International Law and the Geneva Convention which I believe the current administration that I assume that you also "heart" characterized as quaint and irrelevant.  Considering the excesses of Abu Garabe which I believe John McHain, a Vietnam POW, Senator from Arizona, and a firm supporter of Geneva Conventions, has publicly denounced, and the thousands of civilian deaths due to American tactics in Iraq, and the instability brought to the entire region by this illegal war, I find little reason to support the actions of this adminstration in their supposed War on Terror, be it the imprisonment of countless people uncharged in Gitmo, the policy of extraordinary rendition that sends prisoners to countries in which torture is not illegal, or the torturous twisting of principles of human decency and rights to propose a redefinition of torture itself such that it would be perfectly legal at the request of this adminstration.

If you believe in a god, I lament the fate of your soul in that afterlife you must hold so dear.

Axe the jingoistic sig and let's keep it light and breezy where it supposed to be light and breezy.  Express your poltical opinions in Hot and Spicy with your words and not some trite iconography here.


So do you know anything about Gamespy?




The perspicacity of your political ideology mirrors that of your Gamespy search for your games of interest.  From Gamespy Parlor Games Lobby:
Quote
GameSpy Arcade's Parlor Games: Shutdown Notice

Dear GameSpy Classic Games Users:

As of October 24 2005, we have discontinued offering all of GameSpy Arcade's free "Parlor Games." This includes Backgammon, Checkers, Chess, Hearts, Poker, Spades, and Y.A.R.N. These games have been shut down and removed from the Arcade software.

While we understand that this removal is sudden, it is of crucial importance; we discovered that a flaw in their code poses a newly emerging security risk to our users. We do not tolerate these risks, and so have taken immediate steps to shut this particular issue down while we investigate the feasibility of a fix.

We would like to highlight that this issue extends ONLY to Arcade's Parlor Games and NOT to any other areas of GameSpy Arcade; the rest of the software is stable and safe. We also have no evidence to suggest that any users were affected by the vulnerability; we believe we acted before any damage could be done. Whatever risks were posed have been completely removed.

The parlor games lobbies will remain open so that loyal users of these games can continue to communicate with one another and possibly migrate to another parlor games service. You may also continue to enjoy Arcade's support for over 600 PC-based multiplayer games, all of which may be played risk-free.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact GameSpy Customer Support at http://support.gamespy.com




If you'd like to play poker online, there are many venues for that.  PokerStars, PartyPoker, FullTiltPoker, Hold'emPoker, etc, etc.  I am sure there are any number of other venues from those type of games including those offered by Yahoo, MSN, pogo.com, what-have-you.  Don't know what the best site is for any of that, but I'm sure you can find one to your liking.



Hey, Lepton, Thanks! 


Fondest Regards,


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