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« on: November 23, 2005, 11:54:05 am »
OK, so the Xbox 360 is now in stores.  Has anyone bought one or at least played the thing?  How much is it?  How much are the games?  How are the games?  Does the controller suck?  One of the reasons I've liked the PS is that the controller fits my hand and makes more sense to me that the other systems. 

I have never been a big Microsoft guy, in fact I have always gone with Sony so far in the video game wars.  (Well, I do own a Dreamcast and a Gamecube but those have been secondary buys.)  So it is really going to take come convincing to get me to switch.  But to be honest I am not that excited by the PS3 (or the Xbox either) I'm getting up there in years (almost 40 now) and maybe I've just finally outgrown video games.  That is a rather sad thought but perhaps it's true.  I think one of the reasons I don't play games as much is lack of time, or rather other priorities taking that time away from me.  And I have to compete with the kids for TV time!   ;D

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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2005, 12:05:11 pm »
General rule is wait till a couple games you want to play are out before diving into a new console - especially at launch.


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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2005, 05:05:28 pm »
OK, so the Xbox 360 is now in stores.  Has anyone bought one or at least played the thing?  How much is it?  How much are the games?  How are the games?  Does the controller suck?  One of the reasons I've liked the PS is that the controller fits my hand and makes more sense to me that the other systems. 

I have never been a big Microsoft guy, in fact I have always gone with Sony so far in the video game wars.  (Well, I do own a Dreamcast and a Gamecube but those have been secondary buys.)  So it is really going to take come convincing to get me to switch.  But to be honest I am not that excited by the PS3 (or the Xbox either) I'm getting up there in years (almost 40 now) and maybe I've just finally outgrown video games.  That is a rather sad thought but perhaps it's true.  I think one of the reasons I don't play games as much is lack of time, or rather other priorities taking that time away from me.  And I have to compete with the kids for TV time!   ;D

Between my sister and I we stayed on line at our local Circuit City for 11+ hours, but we finally got one for my nephew.  Haven't played it yet because its a Christmas present.

The two available configurations are the $299 "Core" system and the $399 "Premium" system.  With the Core system you get the XBox, a wired controller, and a composite video cable.  The Premium systems gives you the XBox, a wireless controller, a universal remote, a headset for playing XBox Live games, HDTV component video cable, and most importantly a 20GB harddrive.

The harddrive is absolutely needed for backwards compatibility for about 200 titles for the original XBox.  The reason for this is that the original XBox used a NVidia GPU while the XBox 360 uses ATI.  The harddrive contains the emulation software.  Because of this, Microsoft has to pay a royalty to NVidia for every XBox 360 sold.

As for current prices--eBay is ranging from $1000 to $5000 :o.  The harddrives are going for $300+.

The controllers appear to be very similar in size and shape to the original XBox.  As for the games, one of the major complaints is that the XBox 360 doesn't yet offer a game of the caliber of Halo yet.  Most stores I've been in have been showing off the XBox 360 on a Samsung LCD TV.  Most impressive.  If you have an HDTV or a VGA monitor (a special cable is available to play the XBox 360 in high definition on a VGA Monitor) the visuals are incredible.  I would imagine they wouldn't look that great on a conventional TV, though.  One specs for XBox 360 games is that all games must offer 720-line Progressive (720P) playback.

The major thing that annoys me (and many others I imagine), is the Core/Premium divide.  In order to bring the Core configuration up to the Premium configuration, you have to spend an additional $200!  Microsoft said the Core/Premium division was made to give consumers a "choice."  However I believe that it was done to get quick bucks off the accessories.  I wouldn't surprise me at all if Microsoft announced within the next six months or so that sales of the Core system have been "disappointing" and begin only offering the Premium system.  After the holiday season, of course.
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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2005, 06:04:37 pm »
Hey if anybody is looking for the Xbox Premium Package I have one for sale.

Was going to keep it till near Christmas and sell on Ebay but car issues are accelerating my timetable.

I had to take off work to get it so I am looking for a little comp back - but I can get it to you a.s.a.p especially if you live in CO.

If your interested send me an offer/inquiry at ishagroup@yahoo.com

I'm already getting a little local interest on Craigslist so act fast if you are really interested.

(I may be able to take a combo of cash/paypal and trade too)




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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2005, 12:59:24 pm »
Looks like there are some people having technical issues with the console already:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4466688.stm

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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2005, 01:25:27 am »
OK, so the Xbox 360 is now in stores.  Has anyone bought one or at least played the thing?  How much is it?  How much are the games?  How are the games?  Does the controller suck?  One of the reasons I've liked the PS is that the controller fits my hand and makes more sense to me that the other systems. 

I have never been a big Microsoft guy, in fact I have always gone with Sony so far in the video game wars.  (Well, I do own a Dreamcast and a Gamecube but those have been secondary buys.)  So it is really going to take come convincing to get me to switch.  But to be honest I am not that excited by the PS3 (or the Xbox either) I'm getting up there in years (almost 40 now) and maybe I've just finally outgrown video games.  That is a rather sad thought but perhaps it's true.  I think one of the reasons I don't play games as much is lack of time, or rather other priorities taking that time away from me.  And I have to compete with the kids for TV time!   ;D

Between my sister and I we stayed on line at our local Circuit City for 11+ hours, but we finally got one for my nephew.  Haven't played it yet because its a Christmas present.

The two available configurations are the $299 "Core" system and the $399 "Premium" system.  With the Core system you get the XBox, a wired controller, and a composite video cable.  The Premium systems gives you the XBox, a wireless controller, a universal remote, a headset for playing XBox Live games, HDTV component video cable, and most importantly a 20GB harddrive.

The harddrive is absolutely needed for backwards compatibility for about 200 titles for the original XBox.  The reason for this is that the original XBox used a NVidia GPU while the XBox 360 uses ATI.  The harddrive contains the emulation software.  Because of this, Microsoft has to pay a royalty to NVidia for every XBox 360 sold.

As for current prices--eBay is ranging from $1000 to $5000 :o.  The harddrives are going for $300+.

The controllers appear to be very similar in size and shape to the original XBox.  As for the games, one of the major complaints is that the XBox 360 doesn't yet offer a game of the caliber of Halo yet.  Most stores I've been in have been showing off the XBox 360 on a Samsung LCD TV.  Most impressive.  If you have an HDTV or a VGA monitor (a special cable is available to play the XBox 360 in high definition on a VGA Monitor) the visuals are incredible.  I would imagine they wouldn't look that great on a conventional TV, though.  One specs for XBox 360 games is that all games must offer 720-line Progressive (720P) playback.

The major thing that annoys me (and many others I imagine), is the Core/Premium divide.  In order to bring the Core configuration up to the Premium configuration, you have to spend an additional $200!  Microsoft said the Core/Premium division was made to give consumers a "choice."  However I believe that it was done to get quick bucks off the accessories.  I wouldn't surprise me at all if Microsoft announced within the next six months or so that sales of the Core system have been "disappointing" and begin only offering the Premium system.  After the holiday season, of course.

Minor technicality, but the HDD has less to do with the emulation and more to do with the fact that most original Xbox games use it already.  I would doubt the emulation software is stored there, although it's definitly possible.
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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2005, 07:49:07 am »
Link to XBox info

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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 10:55:21 am »
Whew!

K - Sold the Box - made costly mistake tho!

Make SURE you add a gallery picture for your listing if it is an Item that Ebay is displaying prominently on the EBAY home page!

That $20 upgrade option would have earned me another $250+ on my auction...

Oh well, live and learn...

Now back to playin CoD2 on PC - where good people have already made a realism mod that fixes that horrible cheesy "wolverine" health system and turns back on friendly fire!

(and a bunch of other amazing improvements to boot)

Why oh why would I want to play a gritty WWII game if I can waltz in like the terminator and beat enemy soldiers with my bare hands while deflecting their rubber bullets? Have we gone soo soft as Americans (or ADD) that we hafta dumb down these console games soo very much??

Well at least you won't find such weak constitutions in these forums...  ;)

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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2005, 10:39:11 pm »
can you say... OVERHEATING POWER PACK?

sad sad sad... this should have been caught by the beta testers...
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Re: Xbox 360
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2005, 10:32:49 am »
Whew!

K - Sold the Box - made costly mistake tho!

Make SURE you add a gallery picture for your listing if it is an Item that Ebay is displaying prominently on the EBAY home page!

That $20 upgrade option would have earned me another $250+ on my auction...

Oh well, live and learn...

Now back to playin CoD2 on PC - where good people have already made a realism mod that fixes that horrible cheesy "wolverine" health system and turns back on friendly fire!

(and a bunch of other amazing improvements to boot)

Why oh why would I want to play a gritty WWII game if I can waltz in like the terminator and beat enemy soldiers with my bare hands while deflecting their rubber bullets? Have we gone soo soft as Americans (or ADD) that we hafta dumb down these console games soo very much??

Well at least you won't find such weak constitutions in these forums...  ;)

Oh I don't know...on hard I found it harder than CoD original.  Then again...in CoD original one could take a shot to the head and survive whereas it seems a shot to the head in CoD 2 will kill ya...I think that's why they actually changed it.

But then most people don't play on hard...and I agree, when I played on Easy it was like Wolverine.

Then again also, it put's you more into the action rather than searching and hoping to find that next health pack.  I didn't play it on a console however, so it might be different on PC to console.

I have to admit, I like friendly fire abilities simply because I'm evil so I'm with you on that one.
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