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Pataflafla

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Another FASA retexture
« on: March 08, 2003, 11:44:01 am »
This is a retexture of P81's Northampton. I'm using the same textures used on my Chandley retexture so they will basically match.
She's got new nacelles and 1024x1024 textures both like the Chandley I did. I've also futzed with the mesh to make a new impulse engine.
She's not done. This is very much a WIP pic. Should be done in a few days.



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Ducttapewonder

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2003, 12:17:52 pm »
Lookin good Pata. Cant wait to see it finished.  

Arcilte

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2003, 01:30:07 pm »
Lookin' good  

Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2003, 04:58:04 pm »
Pataflafla,

Nice Northampton! Wow! just about every FASA ship made for SFC has been an IMPROVEMENT IMHO. The only thing that is eating at me is that this varient is better armed in the aft section than the Chandley.

I was speculating that between P81's original, Hig's version and this one this would make a great tug for Firesoul's OP+ specfile; the only problem though is the Northampton would get more "screen time" than the Chandley (FCL), at least on my specfile...

Qa Pla!

KF

sandman69247

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2003, 05:00:09 pm »
Lookin' good PATA! Did you notice, SEDL is gone. I was closed. Oh well, made me work on my new site more. If you can send me some pics of the Remora, I'll mesh one out for ya. Learned some good stuff from frost-works. You are still 100% better than me at texturing, so I'll let you do that. Really good to have ya back, bud.  

Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2003, 05:30:08 pm »
Quote:

Lookin' good PATA! Did you notice, SEDL is gone. I was closed. Oh well, made me work on my new site more. If you can send me some pics of the Remora, I'll mesh one out for ya. Learned some good stuff from frost-works. You are still 100% better than me at texturing, so I'll let you do that. Really good to have ya back, bud.  




Cool!

The Remora can be found here: http://www.sub-odeon.com/stsstcsmua/federation/remora.html

I also have an unlit SFC1 Remora too in my FASA to SFC collection.

Qa Pla!

KF
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Captain KoraH

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2003, 09:05:06 pm »
Truly a great looking ship! I'd love to have this in my TNZ mod when it's finished! She'll fit right in with the other FASA ships!

Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2003, 11:20:44 pm »
Pataflafla,

I like the planet that your Northampton is orbiting. Any chance you could either get us the textures to redo a stock planet or point us to where we can get the textures for that great terraformed moon?


KF

James Formo

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2003, 11:28:38 pm »
great looking ship!

Pataflafla

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2003, 05:50:43 am »
Ok, I've basically completed the impulse unit. I've taken a great deal of artistic license here since it isn't shown in the FASA diagrams. Besides.....I think it looks cool.:)

KF, unfortunately that is a wallpaper I downloaded from someone's site.  I'll send it to you if you like. It may be a Star Wars planet.

I'm not sure what a TNZ mod is, but I have no problems with this being incuded in it. Make sure and ask P81 as this is really his model.

And now the impulse unit pics...........





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Bernard Guignard

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2003, 09:22:15 am »
Very Nice Pataflafla I like it a lot. Looking forward to downloading her.
Keep up the fantastic work.  

Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2003, 10:08:25 am »
WOW! It looks like a completely new model entirely!

You do realize that if you don't add the torpedo/phaser "arrangements" to the Chandley, I'll be forced to, LOL! We can't have the Chandley's sister ship showing her up now can we


BTW: No luck with the planet link. Thanks for trying though.

KF

 

Pataflafla

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2003, 10:24:38 am »
Ok, I mispelled that link. Just sent you the correct one.

I hope I don't disappoint anyone, but those aft photorps are just an experiment. One I'm not entirely happy with. They don't fit with the FASA specs nor the specs of any SFC ship that uses the FCL UI. (The latter is more important to me since this isn't going to be used in a FASA game.)  I'll probably use something like those textures for the forward launchers though.

Hope nobody minds the nacelles glowing on both sides. It's not canon, but otherwise you just can't really see the glowing stuff in game. Just looks better in this situation IMHO. I like it on one- and three-nacelle ships, too. More symmetric.

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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2003, 11:50:34 am »
From: http://www.sub-odeon.com/stsstcsmua/federation/northampton.html

"The weapons array is similar to that found on the Chandley Class frigates, though the arrangement is not the same.  Both classes mount 6 FH-11 phasers, but the fields of fire are quite different, with the Northampton having better aft-firing capabilities and the Chandley having better forward-firing capabilities.  Unlike the Chandley, the Northampton has concentrated all three of its torpedo tubes forward, which makes it offensively powerful."

FASA had SOME good ship designs, but sometimes they could be really out of touch with reality.  These ships are clearly cruisers and not frigates.

I like this version of the Northampton and I say, "Lets keep the weapons arrays you have there!" Only I'd also add them to the Chandley as well.

BTW: Can you tell I like your retexture work?

Please release her soon. I am rethinking my stock ship arrangements because of these two retextured ships.

Qa Pla!

KF
 

Pataflafla

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2003, 12:07:09 pm »
It's good to have fans.
I'm a drummer by training in my non-SFC life, so I'm admittedly a bit of a crowd junkie. lol

If you like the aft photorps, I'll see about making them work. BTW, those weapons units also have a single phaser bank in them. Shouldn't be too difficult to adapt them to the Chandley retexture.

BTW, there will also be a USS Bremerton registry for this model. This is the only other ship name in this class mentioned in the FASA Fed Ship Recognition Manual I have. If anyone has any official FASA sources that give other ship names for this class or the correct registry numbers for the USS Northampton or USS Bremerton, post it here so I can make the appropriate registries.

Just a little teaser........I think my boondogle of a Remora project from last summer may be getting a new life!! Sandman has offered to mash this for me since I can't mesh complex surfaces in 3d max. Not sure when though. He has plenty of projects going and I still have several other things (including RL) to keep me busy.

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Bernard Guignard

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2003, 05:39:32 pm »
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From: http://www.sub-odeon.com/stsstcsmua/federation/northampton.html

"The weapons array is similar to that found on the Chandley Class frigates, though the arrangement is not the same.  Both classes mount 6 FH-11 phasers, but the fields of fire are quite different, with the Northampton having better aft-firing capabilities and the Chandley having better forward-firing capabilities.  Unlike the Chandley, the Northampton has concentrated all three of its torpedo tubes forward, which makes it offensively powerful."

FASA had SOME good ship designs, but sometimes they could be really out of touch with reality.  These ships are clearly cruisers and not frigates.

I like this version of the Northampton and I say, "Lets keep the weapons arrays you have there!" Only I'd also add them to the Chandley as well.

BTW: Can you tell I like your retexture work?

Please release her soon. I am rethinking my stock ship arrangements because of these two retextured ships.

Qa Pla!

Actually KF
Fasa was right in a way. It all depends on which time line your looking at in earths history. The SFB timeline
uses earths WW1 and 2 timeline to base its ship's designation on. FASA uses an amalgation of the the early sailing man of war, Horatio Hornblower period of time and ww1 and 2. During this time period a frigate was a fast heavily armed ship that was the workhorse of the fleets. While the big 2 deckers and 3 deckers stayed in port with admirals aboard during times of peace.  During the run of TOS it was never mentioned that the Enterprise was a heavy cruiser it was always called a starship. The term heavy cruiser came from Franz Joseph and became canon during STMP or STWOK when Franz's diagrams came on screen.  Gene modeled some of James T Kirk and some of  the star trek nautical background after Horatio Hornblower. Fasa just took that Idea and ran with it regarding some of the ships designations .

Makes for a heck of a time reconciling the design differences in the ships. Some of those frigates are more
powerfull than a heavy cruiser and could be called battlecruisers in thier own rights.

   


 

Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2003, 06:48:24 pm »
Yup BG, I know all about the Horatio Hornblower and Trek connection.

That was a nice "Reader's Digest" version of what STSSTCSMEU has posted on that site about ship classification. I admit, it was VERY hard for me to break out of "the Frigate is not a small ship mode" When SFC1 came out. Especially since I was a FASA TMP Trek player!

However, as we are essentially converting these ships from one game system to an entirely different one. Itseems like a good idea to use the standard system we are adopting (SFC) in order to include these ships in our game. SFC was for me the way to bring the FASA STSSTCS board game to life and I had no idea how much SFB appears to make more sense than FASA did in many areas of ship combat.

Still, there is plenty of room in my corner of the Trek universe for canon, FASA, SFB and custom Trek to co-exist and even overlap each other.

Right now, I am very passionate about the FASA  Chandley, the ST: New Worlds Romulan TMP Melak Warbird and the Klingon Academy Suvwl' Qeh . They are my top three TMP ships.

I know I will enjoy these retextures of Pataflafla's and any others that come along by other folks.

Qa Pla!

KF

Pataflafla

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2003, 02:29:39 am »
Ok, so I made this little mistake when saving one of the .psp files to a merged format.....and it turned into a whole new variant.
For you FASA nuts out there: Remember that there is one Northampton in the service of Starfleet Intelligence? Well, here is my conjectural rendering of it.

Should be done with her soon. You guys let me know if you want these alternate textures included.

http://nightsoftware.com/compictures/pataflafla/fnh_2.jpg


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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2003, 05:41:36 am »
Bummer! The pic host must be down?

 

Rhaz

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2003, 07:22:02 am »
That Starfleet Intelligence version kicks booty!  Please include it in the d/l

Klingon Fanatic

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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2003, 12:59:22 pm »
Absolutely bad ass!

The paint scheme for the Starfleet Intelligence version is in line with Starfleet [at least FASA Trek] policy to allow for some customization of ships for morale purposes [e.g., the Chandley Class USS Blackheart] on deep space missions...

Time to readjust my spec file and to add those rear firing weapons to my Chandley's.

Nicely done!

KF

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2003, 01:10:44 pm »
that ship is SWEET!!! i love it man. cant wate to D/L it

Pataflafla

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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2003, 05:59:25 pm »
No problem guys. I'll go ahead and include those textures. I'll come up with an appropriate name for the Intelligence Northamptom. Something that is in line with its espionage roll.
 USS Langley or  USS Keyhole?
I'm open to suggestions.

BTW, if anyone wants to they can download a Northampton beta with these textures right now. Tell me of any defects in the mesh. You'll notice I've fixed the mesh hole on the aft end of the starboard pylon. Also, I still need to fix some mapping on the bottom and front of the shoulder or wing or whateveer that non-saucer part of the hulll is called.

http://nightsoftware.com/compictures/pataflafla/fnh_beta.zip
I just started a download of it, so Nightsoft is up right now. Shouldn't have any problems if you can see my signature and avatar. If not.......wait a while and the server will come back up.

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StClair

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2003, 06:45:26 pm »
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Pataflafla, I like the planet that your Northampton is orbiting. Any chance you could either get us the textures to redo a stock planet or point us to where we can get the textures for that great terraformed moon?
KF  




Looks like it was created with LunarCell, by Flaming Pear Software ( http://www.flamingpear.com/ ) - a very nifty plugin for Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, etc.  Just plug in the parameters you want - land and sea color, atmosphere, cratering, sun angle, etc - and it automagically renders you a fractal planet or moon.  I highly recommend it.  

I'm not sure how you'd go about converting the result to a proper planet texture, though.  LunarCell generates round images, not cylinders.
 

Pataflafla

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2003, 11:08:16 pm »
Here are some final pics. All I have left is hp/dp, two more registries and a brk model which I'll do tomorrow.

All the remapping is done so now she looks good from the bottom. Also added a texture so the aft nav lights would have the correct colors on the correct sides. Revamped that Starfleet Intelligence variant a little so the black stripes have a plating texture to them instead of just pure black. Should be out tomorrow.







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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Another FASA retexture
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2003, 09:09:00 pm »
BIG BUMP!

Hmm... I liked the straight black on the Starfleet Intelligence version better IMHO, However, their all GREAT so release them soon please.

On another note Pataflafla,  here's what I did to the USS Fife regarding the rear firing torpedos:



Excellent work sir!

Qa Pla!

KF