Topic: Metal TMP connie and Excelsior, Lakota, Saladin, Federation and Ptolemy WIP. (Read 4741 times)

DuctTapeWonder · « **on:** November 09, 2005, 12:29:56 am »

It's been a while since my last release. I figured it was time to turn something out. This has been a royal pain in the a**. But I think it was worth the effort. I created the hull plating on these textures from actual pictures I took of brushed steel and aluminum and a picture of titanium i found online. The darkest areas of the plating are from the titanium, the middle shade brushed steel and the light shade found on the bottom of the secondary hull are from brushed aluminum. 95% of the textures I made from scratch. The only things that i borrowed were the deflector dish and intermix shafts (P-81), inboard grill on the nacelle and botanical garden (Willard Decker). The only original textures by Khaliban are the decals, shuttle bay doors, docking rings, running lights, windows and bridge paint. Modified original textures include the impulse crystal and torpedo tubes and other painted areas along the pylons and secondary hull.

Hope you all enjoy her. I look forward to reading your feedback.

DTW

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OlBuzzard · « **Reply #1 on:** November 09, 2005, 07:38:01 am »

Your attention to detail is excellent bud !

VERY good !

Starforce2 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 09, 2005, 07:42:40 am »

Was there any remapping involved? I'd like to release this to the BC'ers who use Khalibans connie.

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #3 on:** November 09, 2005, 08:14:43 am »

Quote from: Starforce2 on November 09, 2005, 07:42:40 am

Was there any remapping involved? I'd like to release this to the BC'ers who use Khalibans connie.

No remapping was done. These should work with any version of the ship that has the original textures. Feel free to pass it on to them. If you could, please send me a few screenshots of her in BC, as I dont have that game.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #4 on:** November 09, 2005, 01:06:36 pm »

WOW that's hot !!!!!!!!!!! DTW can you bash at all ? If so could you release a version with a Saucer section and a Battlebridge like it was meant to be in TMP ?

jayvt3 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 09, 2005, 02:02:04 pm »

...and it's got the proper NCC registry to boot.

DTW you have never let me down always bringing the best to the table.

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #6 on:** November 09, 2005, 04:46:34 pm »

There are some faults I have with it. Namely the registry number; It's too bunched up to the point of overlapping, and the name's outline seems not apparent enough. I especially noticed this when I compared it with this picture as well as other pictures. Also, I'm not fond of P81's deflector dish anymore; It looks more, "fake", so to speak, when compared to the model, almost like a blue paper plate rather than a blue glow to a clear dish that I remember the Constitution-class (refit)'s deflector dish as. I'm also if-iffy on the Intermix Shafts (that blue line on the inner-sides of the warp nacelle pylons?), wondering (when looking at the pictures) if it's supposed to be prominent or not-so (and if so, how much so).

However, those are just minor griefs. I really like what you did to the textures. When it's properly lit in-game (your fourth, fifth, and eighth screenshot), it looks very impressive, almost as if it was really metallic, that the model was made out of tritanium. The illumination maps you gave it are also nicely done.

I remember Khaliban stating that he based his model on the actual Enterprise model and the textures on it from the actual studio model of the Enterprise-A, and I really liked what he had done with it, and still like his textures even after seeing your model. But you give this model life when you actually make it more metallic-looking, it almost looks as if I were looking at an actual photograph of the Yorktown if she was a starship that appeared in real life. That illustrates how good it is, regardless of any nitpicks of mine that I have with it. It still stands out to be one of the best retextures I've ever seen. Excellent work.

I have a question, though. Do you have any "blank" textures (as in without the name and registry decals)? I'd like to have a shot at creating a name and registry decal with what I have on that retexture, if you allow. If no, then that's alright, I don't mind. *shrug* But if yes, I thank you and it would be appreciated.

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #7 on:** November 09, 2005, 04:59:54 pm »

DTW is back! Awesome to see a post by you.

Qapla!

KF

Starforce2 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 09, 2005, 06:33:46 pm »

Will do. I'll ask some peeps with the high end cards to do some pix. Mine wont look that great because it's turned all the way down, and the monitor has blacked out for a sec a couple tims while doing registries, I dunno if that means my vid card is going or if it's something else, but I'm not going to push things making substandard pix for this thing. I'll let ya know when it's up.

Centurus · « **Reply #9 on:** November 09, 2005, 07:41:04 pm »

Hey DTW, any chance of you releasing a set of textures without registries, for those folks that wish to do their own? :-D Pwease?????

Centurus · « **Reply #10 on:** November 09, 2005, 07:42:22 pm »

Also, I respectfully request your permission to port this beautiful ship to SFC3. If you do not have the authority to grant such a request, I respectfully ask anyone who does have the authority for permission.

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #11 on:** November 09, 2005, 08:41:58 pm »

Quote from: Chris Johnson on November 09, 2005, 04:46:34 pm

There are some faults I have with it. Namely the registry number; It's too bunched up to the point of overlapping, and the name's outline seems not apparent enough. I especially noticed this when I compared it with this picture as well as other pictures. Also, I'm not fond of P81's deflector dish anymore; It looks more, "fake", so to speak, when compared to the model, almost like a blue paper plate rather than a blue glow to a clear dish that I remember the Constitution-class (refit)'s deflector dish as. I'm also if-iffy on the Intermix Shafts (that blue line on the inner-sides of the warp nacelle pylons?), wondering (when looking at the pictures) if it's supposed to be prominent or not-so (and if so, how much so).

However, those are just minor griefs. I really like what you did to the textures. When it's properly lit in-game (your fourth, fifth, and eighth screenshot), it looks very impressive, almost as if it was really metallic, that the model was made out of tritanium. The illumination maps you gave it are also nicely done.

I remember Khaliban stating that he based his model on the actual Enterprise model and the textures on it from the actual studio model of the Enterprise-A, and I really liked what he had done with it, and still like his textures even after seeing your model. But you give this model life when you actually make it more metallic-looking, it almost looks as if I were looking at an actual photograph of the Yorktown if she was a starship that appeared in real life. That illustrates how good it is, regardless of any nitpicks of mine that I have with it. It still stands out to be one of the best retextures I've ever seen. Excellent work.

I have a question, though. Do you have any "blank" textures (as in without the name and registry decals)? I'd like to have a shot at creating a name and registry decal with what I have on that retexture, if you allow. If no, then that's alright, I don't mind. *shrug* But if yes, I thank you and it would be appreciated.

I'll take that as a compliment. As far as the dish goes, I used P-81's for lack of something better IMO. I took a few attempts at creating my own, but they all lead to hangovers

. But I do agree that it has been a little overused and I'll probably make a few more attempts. And as for Khalibans original textures, I think they were vere accurate to the studio model but in more of a "painted" style as opposed to the industrial metallic look of this set.

Last but not least, the blanks. Yes, I do have blank textures. I just wanted to see the how long it took before someone asked

. My ISP web space is maxed out at the moment, so give me a little while to squeeze out a few more MB so I can upload them.

Glad you all like her.

DTW

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #12 on:** November 09, 2005, 08:43:33 pm »

Quote from: Daihak on November 09, 2005, 07:42:22 pm

Also, I respectfully request your permission to port this beautiful ship to SFC3. If you do not have the authority to grant such a request, I respectfully ask anyone who does have the authority for permission.

If there is a SFC3 version of Khalibans original, it should work by just dropping the .mod file into the folder containing the textures. If not you'll have to take up model conversion with him.

Centurus · « **Reply #13 on:** November 10, 2005, 01:32:54 am »

Just direct me to his location, and I shall ask him in person. :-D

Starforce2 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 10, 2005, 01:47:08 am »

I've seen him browsing BCU occasionaly.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2005, 03:38:38 pm »

Check the Permission's Thread. IIRC only credit is necessary for use of Khaliban's ships.

-MP

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #16 on:** November 10, 2005, 08:06:03 pm »

Here are the blank textures. Have fun.

DTW

BLANK TEXTURES

KBF-Kapact · « **Reply #17 on:** November 10, 2005, 08:46:15 pm »

A beauty.....

Anthony Scott · « **Reply #18 on:** November 11, 2005, 05:21:17 pm »

Wecome back DTW!

Nice work indeed, now I am going to have to go back and "upgrade" my ships...

Semeper Fi, Carry On

-LB- · « **Reply #19 on:** November 11, 2005, 09:02:05 pm »

That....right there......

do you see it?

do you??????????????????

THAT is why I come to see what people in the community have been up to from time to time.

The hull textures on that ship are the BEST I have ever seen on a ship used in a "video game"

I think DTW deserves a *pat on the back* from every one here, especially us "wanna be" texturers

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #20 on:** November 11, 2005, 10:00:26 pm »

Thanks all. Your words make the work all worthwhile. Now if I could only find enough time to learn to make models or atleast kitbash. Speaking of kitbashing, I do have a request to make btw. I would like to make a FJ TMP fleet with these textures. If someone would'nt mind taking the time to kitbash a Saladin, Ptolemy and Federation class from Khaliban's model, I would be much obliged.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #21 on:** November 11, 2005, 10:10:11 pm »

Lol, i will DTW, on one condition... You make this style texture for P81's Excelsior and Lakota as well.

^_^

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #22 on:** November 11, 2005, 11:10:19 pm »

Quote from: Furyofaseraph on November 11, 2005, 10:10:11 pm

Lol, i will DTW, on one condition... You make this style texture for P81's Excelsior and Lakota as well.

^_^

Done deal. I'll start a WIP thread in the next couple days for the Excelsior, Lakota and the 3 I mentioned.

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #23 on:** November 12, 2005, 12:08:52 pm »

These textures are particularly tedious to modify. But heres a WIP shot.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #24 on:** November 12, 2005, 12:09:31 pm »

Rat Boy · « **Reply #25 on:** November 12, 2005, 04:03:45 pm »

You had me at "Yorktown," you had me at "Yorktown."

Johanobesus · « **Reply #26 on:** November 12, 2005, 04:37:25 pm »

You know, when I first saw this, I thought, "damn, that's beautiful, but it doesn't match any of the other models." Now I'll be able to have an entire TMP fleet that matches. Thank you!

What about WZ's ships? I use his TMP Ptolemy. He has pretty much all the ship classes, and then some. What's his policy on fiddling with his models?

Oh, and don't forget the Miranda. It was conspicuously absent from your list.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #27 on:** November 12, 2005, 05:26:01 pm »

Did Khaliban ever make a Miranda? Im getting really tired of p81's since its optimized and the wireframes are ugly.

Shadowfleet · « **Reply #28 on:** November 12, 2005, 07:13:57 pm »

Nice job on the retex DT!!! She looks awesome in game.

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #29 on:** November 12, 2005, 08:45:06 pm »

Quote from: Johanobesus on November 12, 2005, 04:37:25 pm

You know, when I first saw this, I thought, "damn, that's beautiful, but it doesn't match any of the other models." Now I'll be able to have an entire TMP fleet that matches. Thank you!

What about WZ's ships? I use his TMP Ptolemy. He has pretty much all the ship classes, and then some. What's his policy on fiddling with his models?

Oh, and don't forget the Miranda. It was conspicuously absent from your list.

I like WZ's ships. Thing about retexing them is that there are so many individual textures to do, which makes it more of a pain to line everything up and scale correctly. I'm not opposed to retexing his stuff, but IMO it would be faster to kitbash the khaliban model into the others rather than retex another set to look exactly the same.

Quote from: Furyofaseraph on November 12, 2005, 05:26:01 pm

Did Khaliban ever make a Miranda? Im getting really tired of p81's since its optimized and the wireframes are ugly.

I wish I could kitbash so I could do it. But hey. Since you brought it up, wanna volunteer to do the miranda too?

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #30 on:** November 13, 2005, 10:10:39 am »

Well, i dont think im skilled enough to kitbash a Miranda from a Connie, im afraid.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #31 on:** November 13, 2005, 10:18:58 am »

Here's a teaser .............

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #32 on:** November 13, 2005, 11:26:39 am »

Is that what I think it is?

Mackie · « **Reply #33 on:** November 13, 2005, 01:02:23 pm »

Well if it is or in any other case, the mackie is VERY impressed

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #34 on:** November 13, 2005, 02:33:11 pm »

hehehehe one more teaser..............

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #35 on:** November 13, 2005, 04:28:11 pm »

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on November 13, 2005, 03:54:45 pm

that miranda belive it or not is Zombie Zan's ship (you know the guy who pots wicked zombies ships ) Reliant and Bozeman from the mirada pack that outalace is porting over from BC

and you know i can make you a more realitic deflector dishif ya want

I was thinking it was something else then. As for the dish, thanks but no thanks. If I had someone else do it for me, I would feel like I gave up. I reckon I'll give it another shot. But thank you again for the offer.

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