Topic: OT: Anyone else play MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries?

[KBF MalaK]

LoL
More like do everyone else a favor and don't speak.
I keep remembering something Hexx said: "people who don't have DSL don't deserve a computer"

I think I was booted because I asked for the IP numerous times and was ignored so while I was opening up the mic to check for a loose wire it went open and killed everyone else's comms- when I cought the mistaKe and all 6 of the others we're screaming the IP at me I left TS to fire up the game and connect.

I don't believe 'Lord_MalaK' was not recognized by the game host, I think it was payback.

[762_XC]

I remember one game where someone showed up as we were about to launch, and it was most definitely not "Lord Malak". He was booted because we assumed the server was advertising publicly. If that was you, you should do one of two things:

1) Use a name we will recognize so we know it's you

2) Get a mic so we know it's you

As far as being booted off TS, yes, if you are causing painful feedback which hurts ppl's ears, that will happen. Sorry.

Payback for what? We have done everything reasonably possible to include you in our games, but if we can't communicate with you, what do you want?

[KBF MalaK]

I remember one game where someone showed up as we were about to launch, and it was most definitely not "Lord Malak". He was booted because we assumed the server was advertising publicly. If that was you, you should do one of two things:

1) Use a name we will recognize so we know it's you

2) Get a mic so we know it's you

As far as being booted off TS, yes, if you are causing painful feedback which hurts ppl's ears, that will happen. Sorry.

Payback for what? We have done everything reasonably possible to include you in our games, but if we can't communicate with you, what do you want?

Payback for interrupting comms.
And I was booted out of the 'game ready room', not TS. I don't remember if I was using 'MalaK' or 'NOOB- NO MIC'

I tried appologising

But thanks for reminding that whatever happens it always MY fault.

[762_XC]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize it was anyone else's fault that you don't have a mike. We all forgot to enable our Telepathic Interface that day.

/sarcasm off

Honestly Malak, I don't know what you expect anyone else to do about being UNABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU.

[FA Frey XC]

LoL
More like do everyone else a favor and don't speak.
I keep remembering something Hexx said: "people who don't have DSL don't deserve a computer"

I think I was booted because I asked for the IP numerous times and was ignored so while I was opening up the mic to check for a loose wire it went open and killed everyone else's comms- when I cought the mistaKe and all 6 of the others we're screaming the IP at me I left TS to fire up the game and connect.

I don't believe 'Lord_MalaK' was not recognized by the game host, I think it was payback.

Malak, the ONE time we've booted anyone out of the MW4 game lobby was when someone just showed up, out of nowhere, and then sat there - and it wasn't "Malak" or "NEWB - NO MIK". In game chat is a wonderful invention, it allows you to communicate the "old fashioned way" by typing out communications, such as messages that say "Hey guys it's me Malak !!! I made it WEEEEEE !!!" or "Hello I'm Malak from the forums!".

While I'd love for you to join up and play a few (although with your current attitude I doubt you'll believe that) I'm beginning to question that as I'd hope you'd atleast say something HERE, on this thread when it happened. Not a week later...but that's just me.

Bottom line is, if you perceived something, then I am telling you it was perceived WRONG. Now if you want to continue to think it's some type of "personal crusade to not play Mechwarrior 4 with Malak", well, that's your right too, but my perception is that's kinda silly.

Stop taking things personal, ASK  - COMMUNICATE - and have some understanding that when something unexpected happens - like a mic shorting out - people will do what they do - it's not personal, it's just reality. Perhaps if you had checked your mic and made sure it was working correctly before you connected out of etiquette then you wouldn't have gotten booted when your mic was broadcasting massive feedback CONSTANTLY at a very HIGH pitch for an extended period of time.

If your angry, then that's fine. Be angry. Just don't assume everyone here hates you. That's not angry, again, that's silly.

Hope to see you on TS AND on the MW4 battlefield soon!

Regards,

Frey

[KBF MalaK]

Ya, I was on a bit late, and I'm not just some 'noob' Mr. Frey. I got TS set up properly finally and was waiting to get into a game but nobody gave up the IP number. Will someone PLEASE enable the text option on Dyna's TS server so others know I'm alive until I get a mic.

Text messages will work on TS, but you have to be able to SEE the text message, something you can't always do if you're in a gameroom.
Another advantage of Ventrillo...you can simply type a message and you hear a computerized voice repeat your text message for all to hear...

Will ventrillo work on a TS server ??
Is it possible to make a wav file in advance and dump it into TS via the mic circuit when needed ??

[KBF-Crim]

Lord Malak...chill.

Not a request.

An explanation was given...and should be accepted at face value.

You are wearing the fleet uniform of the KBF...as such...while getting blood on your uniform is perfectly acceptable....getting dirt on it is not.

I hope I have made myself clear on the matter.

[Riskyllama]

wav file in advance i believe it supports; VT and TS have no intercompatibility to the best of my knowledge

[KBF-Crim]

Risky is correct..VT and TS are not cross compatable...

Vt works well for some....and not so well for others...

TS works well for some...and not so well for others...

We generally run VT because it works the best for the most number of people on our team....and VT seems to work slightly better for people on dial up....of which I am one...

I know that several people with good connections and good PC's run both at the same time without ill effects...

[KBF MalaK]

Lord Malak...chill.

Not a request.

An explanation was given...and should be accepted at face value.

You are wearing the fleet uniform of the KBF...as such...while getting blood on your uniform is perfectly acceptable....getting dirt on it is not.

I hope I have made myself clear on the matter.

Aye sir, always have been. Just trying to debug an 'issue' without another usless investment to show others what I already know as I've had lag issues years ago when I ran netmech with BFC over a dial up. And believe me I have experience with overconsumption whilst playing.

If you feel I'm soiling the uniform please cite the specific infraction and I will make ammends.

With all due respect
<S>

[KBFLordKrueg]

If you'd like to try VT, we can get you the DL. However, most of the MW crowd seems to use TS.
As far as the other things here...I think we've had enough of that. 
You get my PM, Malak?

[KBF MalaK]

If you'd like to try VT, we can get you the DL. However, most of the MW crowd seems to use TS.
As far as the other things here...I think we've had enough of that. 
You get my PM, Malak?

yep, just got it.
really, I was never mad nor did I intend to accuse anyone of anything. If I offended anyone, sorry. no more problem, ok ?

I TOTALLY uninstalled everything again trying to get those missing files installed. This time I'm installing vengence first, patches, black knight, both meck packs, update everything, then I will re-install mercs with all the candy.

UPDATE: 7 hours later, got everything installed again and it seems to work pretty good on the 'zone'
  no more missing files.

But now I remember why I retired this game: the unconfigurable controls.
   I need to totally disable the Y axis of my joystick, and the mouse scroll but I haven't figured out how to do it in the game menu's... any ideas ??

[KBFLordKrueg]

unconfigurable...?
From your main menu screen...
Go to Options...
then to Controls.
you can change virtually everything single hotkey and/or joystick control if you want.
That's I set up my joystick. 

[KBF MalaK]

well, I'll look again but as I tried years ago when I first got mw3 (which carries over to mw4) I usually have my torso on the mouse but the y axis on the joystick also tilts the head up/down and I never could get that disabled. I also couldn't disable the throttle from the joystick (it is NOT enabled in the config menu, but it still working whilst ingame), and it is also on the mouse scroll, so I have 3 throttles- mouse scroll/ joystick/ keyboard.

anyhow, everything installed correctly and works good on the 'zone' but thismorning I d/l 'd the mektek 3.01 bugfix and when it installs it says I have 2 files in my game that are incompatable with the patch. Since I have ONLY what I D/L'd from mektek in my game I'm confused. Anyone else have this issue with the bugfix ??

[KBFLordKrueg]

No issues with the bugfix patch, very strange. What 2 files does it say are incompatible?
As far as your controls...well...donno about all that.
IMO, you need to be able to look up (at jumpers) and down (from the hilltops)...but, maybe that's just me. 
I have a Joystick/throttle combo and keep both hands on those controls, with a quick keystoke now and then.

You could try registering on the MekTek forums and posting some of your issues there (can't make a post there unless you register first.). Just like here, fellow players are usually happy to offer helpful suggestions. 

[KBF MalaK]

the second time I ran the 3.01 bugfix only 1 file came up as bad (props.mw4).
The 3rd time I ran it the 2 files from the first attempt came up.
here is the complete message:

WinPatch Errors
WinPatch encountered the following errors when verifying if the update can be applied:

The following file does not match the file to be updated:
D:\Program Files\Mechwarrior Mercenaries\resource\props.mw4
The following file does not match the file to be updated:
D:\Program Files\Mechwarrior Mercenaries\resource\textures.mw4


The WinPatch process was aborted, because of the previous errors. The files that you were updating have not been changed. You should contact the following company to resolve this problem:

Jehosephat2k, www.mektek.net

I dunno if it has to do with the clan or IS mechpacks from microsoft that are installed, or a mektek pack but I've not seen any errors in the installs up to this point and don't know if my current install is now corrupt. I just thought maybe someone else has seen these errors and knows if it's normal, or if a fix or workaround is known.

[KBFLordKrueg]

the second time I ran the 3.01 bugfix only 1 file came up as bad (props.mw4).
The 3rd time I ran it the 2 files from the first attempt came up.
here is the complete message:

WinPatch Errors
WinPatch encountered the following errors when verifying if the update can be applied:

The following file does not match the file to be updated:
D:\Program Files\Mechwarrior Mercenaries\resource\props.mw4
The following file does not match the file to be updated:
D:\Program Files\Mechwarrior Mercenaries\resource\textures.mw4


The WinPatch process was aborted, because of the previous errors. The files that you were updating have not been changed. You should contact the following company to resolve this problem:

Jehosephat2k, www.mektek.net

I dunno if it has to do with the clan or IS mechpacks from microsoft that are installed, or a mektek pack but I've not seen any errors in the installs up to this point and don't know if my current install is now corrupt. I just thought maybe someone else has seen these errors and knows if it's normal, or if a fix or workaround is known.

I doubt it's the MS MechPacks, I have them too and had no issues installing the patch.
I still think your best bet is to post your issues on the MekTek forums and I'm sure one of the tech-types there could help you. It is possible there you'll even find a post about the subject that may help without you having to ask. 

[KBF MalaK]

yea, I tried that but every time I go to the mektek site I'm immediately directed to the mp3 d/l page.

[KBFLordKrueg]

yea, I tried that but every time I go to the mektek site I'm immediately directed to the mp3 d/l page.

Well, I see that...
They did it that way probably for the patch release. They did the same when MP3 came out. But it ususally last a couple days and then reverts back to the normal page and you can access the forums. I tried to get to the forums there as well, with no success. 
Since the patch just cam out on Fri, perhaps by Mon they'll put it back up normally.
Sorry I couldn't be more help with the problem.

[KBF MalaK]

Stick a fork in me, I'm done
 This 3.0.1 bug fix has killed ALL mech products on my machine:

I spent 7 hours yesterday installing vengence, veng patch, IS Mech pack, Clan Mech pack, Black knight...then moved onto Mercs, the PR1, MP2, 2.1, 2.1a, and finally 3.0, as well as all the map packs and missions from 'NB' without incident.

I even played about 2 hours on the 'zone' last night after the tourney. I even got in a few minutes this afternoon with Lear (thanks Bud, it was a blast even tho my joystick driver refused to load). Once I got the joystick issue resloved I D/L'd (twice) the 3.0.1 bugfix which gave the errors (above).
Sooo... by suggestion I reluctantly uninstalled Mercs and all it's goodies trying to get that 3.0.1 patch working but to my surprise when I reinstalled mercs and ran the PR1 it said I had the wrong ver of MW4X.exe  (error code 0036). Again I uninstalled mercs, deleted the folder, cleaned the registry, rebooted and tried again,  same thing- error 0036. Being a bit irked I opened the PR1 with winzip (the PR1 is a self extracting ZIP file) and checked the file. Winzip reported the file as 100% OK. So I did it all again- 3rd time=same result, I then uninstalled mercs, removed folder, and ran NAV, spybot S&D, and adaware all to find the problem- no problems found.

So I now run disk cleanup and scandisk on both drives (no problems found), checked again for the mercs folder just to make sure it was gone, and proceeded to install once again- same result (error 0036), so I unzip the PR1 into a temp directory to take a look. After reading the doc file in the PR1 directory it says:

0036: Old file not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match. MW4.exe or MW4x.exe was unable to locate an exact match for a file to be updated, although the patching utility was able to locate a file with the same name as the original file. However, the file found did not have either the same size or checksum as the file that the patching utility is seeking to update. A checksum is a count of bits done for comparison purposes.

You might experience a 0036 error when installing the patch on a Nordic, Italian, or Brazilian game. If you encounter this error, uninstall and reinstall MechWarrior 4: Vengeance and rerun the patch.

I now uninstall all of Mercs, Black Knight, IS mech pack, Clan Mech pack, and finally vengence. I remove the folders and empty the 'waste basket'.

If you've been following along you'll see that I now have a machine with NO mechwarrior games of ANY type, no folders, nothing. Feeling confident I can now get this thing installed I re-install Mercs (always a full install), and run the PR1.  BAM- error 0036.

>> Thank you Bill Gates, May I have another ?? <<

Anyone else think I have a hidden temp file somewhere thats corrupt, or a registry key that won't uninstall ??

I now have NO mechwarrior products installed,
14 hours invested in the last 2 days alone,
a VERY bad attitude,
a headache, bloodshot eyes, a hungry dog, and a pissed off girlfriend because she's been a computer widow this weekend.

But, thanks again Lear, it was fun for a while. (5 minutes gameplay with ALL game this weekend)

I'm done.