Topic: what about a cugs vs dynaverse server?? (Read 5448 times)

TraumaTech · « **on:** November 03, 2005, 07:46:42 pm »

i think a good idea for a server,plus give an oppratunity to increase player base,would be a server between CUGS,and DYNAVERSE players. What do you guys think??maybe do it on a mirror/mirror concept,so that all races can fly

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2005, 07:48:07 pm »

How many players can CUGS muster?

Dizzy · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2005, 08:19:31 pm »

Hrmmmm Like a mirror universe. Each side has the same list. That'd be cool. GI, TT!

shin · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2005, 09:03:16 pm »

well i threw the idea to hoggie........but i really need to talk to josh to get anything done...you guys set it up and ill relay the info to them...in the mean time why dont i get them the info to get on dnets ts to talk to some one? (dizzy...lol)

Riskyllama · « **Reply #4 on:** November 03, 2005, 11:32:35 pm »

we could take em

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2005, 04:37:20 am »

Quote from: Riskyllama on November 03, 2005, 11:32:35 pm

we could take em

I'm inclined to agree.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2005, 07:13:40 am »

Sign me up, a mirror list could make this a blast to.

shin · « **Reply #7 on:** November 04, 2005, 07:40:28 am »

well cugs would probably be able to muster more guys than we could from what ive seen on past servers, and from playing with them on gsa...they have some EXCELLENT pilots, but im not so sure they remember about being able to be captured on d2

...lets do this with a gorn, rom, or klingon list to make it interesting. mirak and lyran would make it too tough for some of us...specially those of us who cant fly lyran

lol...or we could use isc hmm....now THERES an idea, an isc mirror server for cugs vs dyna

...and if they dont go for it we can use it just for another mirror mirror lol

Hexx · « **Reply #8 on:** November 04, 2005, 07:53:00 am »

Why wouldn't the mirror list include ships from all races?

That way no one gets left out because someone else is to incompetent
to fly their ships.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #9 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:22:27 am »

Sure include all races, or screen out isc and hydran and have them fly mid era as all most of them will fly on GSA is 300+ advanced. Take G2 pahsers and X-isc ships away and they are in trouble. I find it rare to get anything but advanced hydrans and isc from gsa/CUGS players when I play there.

Hexx · « **Reply #10 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:25:35 am »

Uhmm, not to question this then, but if they do usually use X2 ships
aren't they going to get annihilated?

Dizzy · « **Reply #11 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:26:49 am »

We are so competitive and focused on winning, hehe. Its human nature. Prolly better to focus on integrating them into the dynaverse community than setting them up to get pwnd or organizing a pissing contest. Personally, I wouldnt mind having one cheese server with X2 ships just to get them to get their feet wet over here. To have them grasp the basics of the dyna server, what its all about and introducing ourselves to them and flying with them is a big important step.

Hrmmm. If they really need to play X2 tech, sure. Let em. I can reclass the shiplist for X2 tech in such a way that if they want to use em, they will have to invest a lot of pp into getting them. That means they will all find out what it means to be a nutter...

The longer they spend on the dyna they better. Gotta hook em like a drug. Make it cheap and getting em hooked on the high, then gradually raise the price and the dose till we get em where we want em.

Soreyes · « **Reply #12 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:41:24 am »

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Hrmmm. If they really need to play X2 tech, sure. Let em. I can reclass the shiplist for X2 tech in such a way that if they want to use em, they will have to invest a lot of pp into getting them. That means they will all find out what it means to be a nutter...

Oh that would be kind of fun. Heck I figure after 3 days on the server, I could afford a Z-XCF

Dizzy · « **Reply #13 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:43:46 am »

Quote from: Soreyes on November 04, 2005, 08:41:24 am

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Hrmmm. If they really need to play X2 tech, sure. Let em. I can reclass the shiplist for X2 tech in such a way that if they want to use em, they will have to invest a lot of pp into getting them. That means they will all find out what it means to be a nutter...

Oh that would be kind of fun. Heck I figure after 3 days on the server, I could afford a Z-XCF

If we ever have a server that picks players and I'm team captain, you are the 1st player I'd pick, lol.

trO · « **Reply #14 on:** November 04, 2005, 10:31:41 am »

You all don't mind if I throw down a little bit of friendly poison do you? And post the link to this thread in the RFA forums, were I know a lot of Cugs players will see it..
It might fuel up enough emotions to get something like this off the ground...
But I must say I think your over confidence might be your down fall.. My experiance of GSA players( now I'm going bac a ways back) Are that there are some excellant players in there.. And from what I have seen in the forums and the past few weeks on SGO5, alot of faces that I recognise from GSA ..
And yes some rooms play alot of Adv games, but the majority of the players don't even like Adv era.

BTW wots a Mirror server?

shin · « **Reply #15 on:** November 04, 2005, 12:17:05 pm »

guys thats untrue...i protest against x ships when im flying with them....they do just as good without x as they do with..........at least some of them.........i know josh from over there can own me x tech or not.........hoggie as well......and a few others, much like dh or diz or frey could own me 1 on 1......quick and easy for them, so dont knock'em they have a lot of flying experience, i just dont know how theyd do on an acual server lol.....before you start knockin dem guyz i want you more experienced excellent pilots to go face them 1 on 1, see what ya think

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #16 on:** November 04, 2005, 12:24:06 pm »

Quote from: 32nd_ltctri_shin on November 04, 2005, 12:17:05 pm

guys thats untrue...i protest against x ships when im flying with them....they do just as good without x as they do with..........at least some of them.........i know josh from over there can own me x tech or not.........hoggie as well......and a few others, much like dh or diz or frey could own me 1 on 1......quick and easy for them, so dont knock'em they have a lot of flying experience, i just dont know how theyd do on an acual server lol.....before you start knockin dem guyz i want you more experienced excellent pilots to go face them 1 on 1, see what ya think

Been there, seen it, bought the t-shirt.

Riskyllama · « **Reply #17 on:** November 04, 2005, 01:18:16 pm »

Quote from: FPF-TobinDax on November 04, 2005, 12:24:06 pm

Quote from: 32nd_ltctri_shin on November 04, 2005, 12:17:05 pm
guys thats untrue...i protest against x ships when im flying with them....they do just as good without x as they do with..........at least some of them.........i know josh from over there can own me x tech or not.........hoggie as well......and a few others, much like dh or diz or frey could own me 1 on 1......quick and easy for them, so dont knock'em they have a lot of flying experience, i just dont know how theyd do on an acual server lol.....before you start knockin dem guyz i want you more experienced excellent pilots to go face them 1 on 1, see what ya think

Been there, seen it, bought the t-shirt.

Bring me back a hat next time Tobin.

FA Frey XC · « **Reply #18 on:** November 04, 2005, 05:13:48 pm »

Quote from: 32nd_ltctri_shin on November 04, 2005, 12:17:05 pm

guys thats untrue...i protest against x ships when im flying with them....they do just as good without x as they do with..........at least some of them.........i know josh from over there can own me x tech or not.........hoggie as well......and a few others, much like dh or diz or frey could own me 1 on 1......quick and easy for them, so dont knock'em they have a lot of flying experience, i just dont know how theyd do on an acual server lol.....before you start knockin dem guyz i want you more experienced excellent pilots to go face them 1 on 1, see what ya think

That's hilarious, Shin. When ever we get on GSA and host a room, since we (XenoCorp) as a Fleet don't play X ships on GSA (except when Kroma insists.....you know how THAT is) we've seen what was once a once in a while thing turn into a almost nightly occurance:

In room on GSA:

FA_Frey_XC: "BPV / Era?"

(Identity hidden to protect individual)450 Adv !!!!! Speed 10 !!!!"

FA_Frey_XC: "Umm no, cmon pick a reasonable BPV / Era."

762: "180 Late! No X ships!"

FA_Frey_XC: "Okay, 180 Late, No X Ships"

(Identity hidden to protect individual) "Huh? What? Dude, SFC EAW is over there, this is OP!"

FA_Frey_XC:"Yes, it is. And we're not playing X ships."

(Identity hidden to protect individual) "OMG, whatever !!!! Okay f@(*$*$ fine! Launch LAUNCH LAUNCH LAUNCH"

Game launches, fool gets owned, and then of course disconnects from the game while it's still going on with a cry of "BS" and "You guys SUCK !!!"

We finish the game (if we can because dat fool disconnected, and we ALL KNOW what can happen when peeps do that), come back to the room and there is fool yelling about "Real ships, get a life this is OP not EAW".

Hence da BOOT at that point usually.

The GSA / CUGS players I've played - in my experience - can't play Late / Mid / Early Era. I've consistantly beaten them in said matches, Sir Josh included.

Regards,

Frey

Dizzy · « **Reply #19 on:** November 04, 2005, 05:21:35 pm »

sad but true. But have u beaten them at their game? I have! 400A spd 10 ffa I pwn~!

TraumaTech · « **Reply #20 on:** November 04, 2005, 07:55:32 pm »

Quote from: TRO on November 04, 2005, 10:31:41 am

You all don't mind if I throw down a little bit of friendly poison do you? And post the link to this thread in the RFA forums, were I know a lot of Cugs players will see it..
It might fuel up enough emotions to get something like this off the ground...

BTW wots a Mirror server?

i think throwing down the gauntlet would be fine.nothing like a little healthy smack talk to get the challenge going is kewl.

as for the mirror mirror campaign.think of the episode of star trek in which kirk,bones,scotty and urhura boonce into another universe of an evil federation. good federation vs evil one,but this one i envisioned all races good vs all evil races,perhaps minus isc and maybe hydran

Hexx · « **Reply #21 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:02:04 pm »

Nah strip out the ISC and the Hydrans (just to irritate t00l)
and use the same shiplist for both sides.

KBF-Netman · « **Reply #22 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:04:37 pm »

I like where this is going., It will be alot of fun to play with some of my GSA freinds.. I hope NEO and Dark horse are interested in playing

KBF-Kurok · « **Reply #23 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:13:27 pm »

this looks like it could be alot of fun

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #24 on:** November 04, 2005, 08:20:32 pm »

#1...once again...numbers please...how many players can CUGS field?

#2 skill set....playing in a campign setting isnt the same as playing a ladder set up....PvP is only one aspect...and getting an "even" match is pretty much unheard of...

Ladder play requires extensive knowledge of era ,BPV, and capabilties...

Campaign play requires a different skill set...it requires the abilty to co-ordinate mission selection, just who, is where, with what ship, and what the status is of the hex you are in..

#3 fairness...if we are asking ladder players to come and play in our back yard....we as campaign players should be also willing to step into a tourney arena and lay it down...

This goes back to skill sets....(see above)

#4...endurance.....a campign setting requires the abilty to place focus on tasks and goals over a long period of time(weeks)...will ladder players lose interest if they dont make imeadiate progress?

#5.. endurance...a ladder setting requires the abilty to be on top of your game for long periods of time (Hours) in order to adavce...will campaign players *without full knowedge of BPV and era* lose interest if they cant win the first or second match?

Losing a campaign can be as simple as not showing up....loseing a ladder match can be as simple as picking the wrong ship....

These two issues need to be addressed in the spirit of fairness...

IMHO ofcorse...

shin · « **Reply #25 on:** November 04, 2005, 09:03:53 pm »

well frey...the only cugs players ive played (the ones ive playd most any way lol) have been able to fly any era any bpv....and even let me choose it, usually its mid-late no x with a some what kool bpv........those are the players im talkin about, the ones ive playd that have NO objection to era bpv race what ever...after all when cugs sets up tournies the era's n bpv's are all over the place. the last cugs tourny i playd in had early era for the second match....and ya i chose the wrong ship for the job to what my opponent chose....but it was still a very nice ship that i took, and it was well playd on both sides.............so inMY experience cugs isnt limited to advanced era x tech, its all over the place. yes true they PREFER x tech, but when im involved i dont allow it

, oh and one more thing...no matter what ship ive taken into battle no matter what kind of chance it should have, ive always been beaten down like i was nothing...the ones who are LIMITED to x tech are the noobs, the ones who will fly anything without so much as a diagreement are the better cugs players. hope this info helped out a bit

p.s. once i get in touch with josh i can find out for you just how many players they can get, but i assure you they CAN match our numbers easily

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #26 on:** November 04, 2005, 09:05:59 pm »

the last time i logged into cugs successfully, only 75 players had played a game. their best are very good. After the elite, well....

IAF Lyrkiller · « **Reply #27 on:** November 04, 2005, 09:18:07 pm »

I am all for it.

And I just bought an ATI X700PRO

Riskyllama · « **Reply #28 on:** November 04, 2005, 09:34:26 pm »

Quote from: KBF-Crim on November 04, 2005, 08:20:32 pm

3 fairness...if we are asking ladder players to come and play in our back yard....we as campaign players should be also willing to step into a tourney arena and lay it down...

This goes back to skill sets....(see above)

does this mean we're all gonna pile into GSA for some 1v1s and fleet actions against them? Cause that sounds mighty cool too.

Dfly · « **Reply #29 on:** November 04, 2005, 10:07:17 pm »

Flew vs many CUGS pilots. In GSA I still use the KIG signature as well as the TSC. I lead both fleets and KIG did well in some ladder play. TSC never was a ladder team. They had at that time numbers well over our D2 numbers. Now, well, they most likely still beat us in total numbers. Can I beat them, well I used to. Entered one of their first ever tournaments, and the prize was a Klingon Knife. I won that tournament vs Vader, which had over 100 entries. The next time a Klingon Knife was offered for a prize(only twice ever offered btw) I did not enter it, and Vader won. I was very glad for him. I felt kinda lucky to have chosen the right ship at the right time for each time I had too. There are many pilots over there who can fly any era, any bpv, and win much more than lose.

As to who Pwnd who in a campaign, well, sheer numbers can win it, but then PvP can also make a difference as they are USED to PvP, but not hex flipping, so they may get bored with hex flipping and lose interest. I hope that is not the case. I would love to see them come over here for a campaign, but suggest it be only a 2 week, not 3, so that they dont lose interest. As part of the challlenge, I would suggest we go to one of their challenges vs us as well. Be it Ladder style, or tournament style PvP. I personally thing tournament style would be best for us as ladder is much longer. Just my 1.7cents.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #30 on:** November 05, 2005, 08:35:38 am »

they usually have KOTH every saturday night on GSA sposored by CUGS. See ya there maybe...depending on RL.

762_XC · « **Reply #31 on:** November 05, 2005, 08:57:49 am »

We should just all show up for one of their tourneys. It would be funny seeing the top 10 spots get taken by D2 pilots.

Of course that probably means we'd have to deal with Advanced.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #32 on:** November 05, 2005, 09:03:39 am »

Quote from: 762_XC on November 05, 2005, 08:57:49 am

We should just all show up for one of their tourneys. It would be funny seeing the top 10 spots get taken by D2 pilots.

Of course that probably means we'd have to deal with Advanced.

Actually Tool...it's probably a great Idea to do so....it's not like we are still getting a flood of new players...

And every time a new game comes out...we lose a couple more...

I'm sure they could use a few more ladder players just like we could use a few more campaigners....

I know a few people do both....but maybe more of us should too...

trO · « **Reply #33 on:** November 05, 2005, 09:04:19 am »

I've posted this thread link into the RFA forums, done a little bit of stirring.. (as you do)

And invited them to make a responce..

KBF-Netman · « **Reply #34 on:** November 05, 2005, 10:19:29 am »

Quote from: TRO on November 05, 2005, 09:04:19 am

I've posted this thread link into the RFA forums, done a little bit of stirring.. (as you do)
And invited them to make a responce..

Yeah , I can see a response, of a full spread of photons on your port bow. I hope your cloak is operational Praetor

TraumaTech · « **Reply #35 on:** November 05, 2005, 01:25:33 pm »

is there going to be a contingent of dynaplayers on gsa tonight?

also....what is the time frame for this or any other server?

FRA.E.Kehakoul_XC · « **Reply #36 on:** November 05, 2005, 01:42:08 pm »

Really, i feel no urge to fight in any tourneys.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #37 on:** November 05, 2005, 03:30:28 pm »

That's cool...and I dont think anyone is suggesting anyone be forced to as a condition of playing on a server....

I was only suggesting that both groups could use a few more active players...that's all..

shin · « **Reply #38 on:** November 05, 2005, 06:41:04 pm »

been a short while since ive playd against them...and i miss it, so ya....lets see when their next tourney is and get involved in it

.......btw their tournies are usually elimination, meaning you lose your out...also its NORMALLY 1v1 tournies, so bring your BEST game if we actually get involved in one

LOD WARHORSE{Adm} · « **Reply #39 on:** November 13, 2005, 01:19:30 am »

i think peeps on gs would have to form a fleet and elect its own higher ups .same goes for d2 peeps .then set up what kind of camp/rules and conditions for play.but put it in a way that peeps dont have to quit the fleet their in just put a 2nd fleet sign .then get some time for recriuting .as for trash talk FUC IT!! we feel the same as u .put your skill/honor to the test .

Father Ted · « **Reply #40 on:** November 13, 2005, 12:15:43 pm »

I like this idea. If necessary, I'll serve as faithfully under Kreug as I would under Wanderer or Jeff.

KHH-MiniMe · « **Reply #41 on:** November 13, 2005, 12:17:30 pm »

Quote from: FA_Frey_XC on November 04, 2005, 05:13:48 pm

Quote from: 32nd_ltctri_shin on November 04, 2005, 12:17:05 pm
guys thats untrue...i protest against x ships when im flying with them....they do just as good without x as they do with..........at least some of them.........i know josh from over there can own me x tech or not.........hoggie as well......and a few others, much like dh or diz or frey could own me 1 on 1......quick and easy for them, so dont knock'em they have a lot of flying experience, i just dont know how theyd do on an acual server lol.....before you start knockin dem guyz i want you more experienced excellent pilots to go face them 1 on 1, see what ya think

The GSA / CUGS players I've played - in my experience - can't play Late / Mid / Early Era. I've consistantly beaten them in said matches, Sir Josh included.

Regards,

Frey

I'm not sure where KHH fits into the scheme of things but we rarely if ever play ADV games. That being said, I can fly a cheese ship as good as the next pilot.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #42 on:** November 13, 2005, 04:23:16 pm »

Does anyone know if CUGS folded? I have not bee able to log into the site for almost a month from my home or work computer. I have not seen anyone on GSA with a room up for CUGS play either.

CaptJosh · « **Reply #43 on:** November 13, 2005, 06:07:31 pm »

Go to http://www.cugs.org/

Looks like they got a new site.

Riskyllama · « **Reply #44 on:** November 13, 2005, 07:07:32 pm »

someone said the location housing the old CUGSs site had a fire..

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #45 on:** November 13, 2005, 08:02:13 pm »

TY gents.

trO · « **Reply #46 on:** November 14, 2005, 09:29:08 am »

Hope this helps Tobin...

http://www.cugs.org/

As far as I can see though its still very much underconstrution.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #47 on:** November 15, 2005, 07:37:59 am »

I noticed, I couldn't login or register.

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