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Offline J. Carney

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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #60 on: December 23, 2005, 02:12:49 am »
Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on December 22, 2005, 11:04:11 pm
One of the main problems I have with the civics systems, is that you can have both Universal Sufferage and Slavery.  Can't afford to buy the production? just whip a few civvies and now you've got it.

And why not?

Rome had both, and stood for a couple thousand years in one incarnation or another.

Slavery and uniersal sufferage aren't mutually exclusive, especially if like on Civ4- as in Rome- the slaves are POWs. Your citizens do indeed have universal sufferage... but people that aren't your citizens don't.

Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on December 22, 2005, 11:04:11 pm
Uh...Swordsmen or Axemen are desperately needed to do the early land grab, you COULD make do with Horse Archers.  But to try to take over the world with Archers, especially with Greece and their strong Phalanx, that's just asking to get run over.

As long as an archer is in a city, he's virtually unbeatable- especially a longbowman.

Get them on the field, and the loose almost all value.
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2006, 08:01:17 am »
I have trouble deciding when to build my second city, so I found a faster solution:

I build 4 scouts and send them to the 4 winds.  As soon as the last one is gone, I start building archers (if I am lucky one of my scouts finds a village that gives me a settler).

Then, I find everyone else that's on the same continent and use the archers to knock them out of the game while they only have 1 city.  I then have a couple of other cities and a continent to myself, so I can concentrate on domestic building and save other continents for the gunpowder era.

The above is very *interesting* with barbarians set to raging...
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2006, 08:00:37 pm »
I've recently started playing this game and am adapting to it much more easily than I did to Civ III.  I started out on Civ II and it has been one of my favorite games since, but I could never really get the hang of Civ III.  So far, my normal strategy of founding as many cities as I can and placing them so they cut off the areas where my rivals can expand into is working great.  I've played one game on Chieftain just to get a feel for the game and see what's different, and now I'm working my way up the difficulty levels.

I just finished a game on Warlord difficulty with a space race victory.  I almost got through the entire game without going to war (either declaring war or having war declared on me), but when I was halfway finished building my space ship, France (who was one of my friendliest allies) just randomly decided to declare war on me.  I managed to stomp him into the ground in a few turns, but I was seriously annoyed that I had to spend so much gold and divert so much production in order to wage war so late in the game and he managed to destroy several improvements before I retaliated.

Now I'm going to play one on Prince, but this time I won't be so nice.
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2006, 09:21:32 pm »
This game plays so smoothly that I think it's the most addictive yet...


Have you gotten the newest patch?  It has a speed setting even slower than epic.
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2006, 11:11:08 am »
What's the newest patch?  I ought to head over to civfanatics and check it out, although I really don't like very long games.  That was the main thing I had against Civ III.  That and I usually won in the industrial age and only got to the modern age if I held myself back.

By the way, I meant that I'll play a game on Noble instead of Prince.  I forgot that they added a few new difficulty levels here and there.
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2006, 01:24:55 pm »
I don't even know.  I clicked "Check for Update" on the advanced screen and it went and got it.  It's the second patch released so far and is supposed to correct the memory leaks.  It was a late December release.
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2006, 12:20:45 am »
In that case, I don't have it yet.  Can you still play saved games from before the patch is applied?
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2006, 12:28:38 am »
Yes, So far every version of the patch has been backward compatable with previous Save Games.  Of course now that I've said it, the next patch will change the game so much that you can't... ::)
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2006, 02:57:48 am »
They do anything about that damned memory leak?
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2006, 08:12:50 pm »
As a matter of fact, they did.  I can now play Huge Maps, with a slight slowdown.  Although I haven't yet gotten to sattelites, so...maybe I should hold my tongue until then...
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2006, 12:21:23 am »
I like the music.

Stacking is cool too.
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2006, 12:13:49 pm »
Somebody rescue me from this addicting CRACK.

HELLLPPPP!!!!!
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2006, 11:05:42 pm »
There a website called civaholics anonymous that can help.  But the first step to treatment is to find the site yourself.  ;D
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2006, 05:07:43 pm »
I can't. That would take away from my playing time.
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #74 on: February 01, 2006, 08:22:45 pm »
Another buddy also recommended this to me, picked it up some weeks ago. 
Only lost a couple days since I have had it installed.

No complaints here, cept from my CoH buddies who think I got picked up by aliens or something.

Spouse noted I have not used the phrase "Just one more turn" since Ascendancy...
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2006, 10:15:48 pm »
All I want to know is this...

Let's say that I beat the game with a Space-Race victory- the easiest one. Do I still get to see the vids for all the other videos if I get that kind of victory afterwards in the same game?
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2006, 09:09:22 am »
Nope.  I've won a lesser victory and gone on to eliminate everyone, and nada.  This one lets you win once.
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2006, 10:29:19 am »
Quote from: RazalYllib on February 01, 2006, 08:22:45 pm
No complaints here, cept from my CoH buddies who think I got picked up by aliens or something.

Commando Bob, Infinity. ;D
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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2006, 08:01:01 pm »
-->coh content--@Razawere on Victory as Hero, Guardian = Villain...of course the IRIS SG/VG (Imperial Romulan Information Service aka Improvised Response Is Superior) is a nod to my SFC addiction as well...still mess single modified campaigns after all these years...

Civ4 has been taking me away from the other distractions like no other...BFME....couple months finished the good campaign...it was eh....ok....B/W2... another good attempt, the RTS factor got old...havent checked in awhile to see if new content/patch out yet, if so I may reinstall on the new box. I feel Civ4 is best of the bunch...good art, good gameplay...and the XML + Python scripting makes the underpinning engine very mod friendly.

I understand Ascendancy 2 will be a MMORG and that is very interesting idea. I wonder what they will come up with.

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Re: Civilization IV
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2006, 05:07:15 pm »
Man this game is a horrible drug (second to coffee) but it'll never replace sex or paintball. LOL!
I just got done talking with Stepen a.k.a. Sirgod about doing a PBEM thing.  I was wondering if we should so a DYNA match and if so gin=ve me ideas on settings and rules options.
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