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Offline Hexx

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2005, 03:53:49 pm »
Seriuosly what's wrong with it?
It's not an issue unless one side decides to field a BB.

No one fields BB's, no change to the fleeting rules.
( I do think BCH's should be permitted to escort..but that's another server idea)

I mean an I- BBZ with 2 I-CVSZ as escorts will likely be able to handle themselves...
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2005, 03:59:34 pm »
It also brings up another point on disengagements.....
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2005, 04:01:34 pm »
It also brings up another point on disengagements.....

It does?

Damn I'm good
Brining up other points and not even realizing it..
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2005, 04:06:17 pm »
Just like your avatar.

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2005, 04:08:26 pm »
Just like your avatar.

Getting so confused..

What's wrong with my avatar?

I mean sure it's some weird little cat thing dressed as a pirate, but other than that?
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2005, 04:09:39 pm »
Well, other points in this have brought it up....

Every time I see in the mission briefing about how if you are outnumbered or out gunned you should disengage.... but server rules say otherwise....

Forcing a deep strike such as ISC BBVZ that was lost b/c even though the planet and bases couldn't move.... the BB could not get away from them....::)
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2005, 04:12:15 pm »
Just like your avatar.

Getting so confused..

What's wrong with my avatar?

I mean sure it's some weird little cat thing dressed as a pirate, but other than that?

He's raising a point! Duh.

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2005, 04:13:59 pm »
Just like your avatar.

Getting so confused..

What's wrong with my avatar?

I mean sure it's some weird little cat thing dressed as a pirate, but other than that?

He's raising a point! Duh.

I really loathe you sometimes...
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2005, 04:20:02 pm »
Only sometimes?   8)

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2005, 04:20:47 pm »
Ur insane with the fleeting exemption...

The retrying mission thingy sounds good for a one try redo UNLESS the players agree to keep beating a dead horse.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but...
I agree with Hexx...
HOWEVER...
What if BOTH sides have a BB on?

But, Since 16 Capitol ship points is the max after 2275, and the BB takes 11...
That only leaves enough for 1 BCH, so if both sides field a BB, they're not going to have much else heavy metal on... ;)

But, it might prove an interesting option for the side that doesn't have a BB on... ;)
And, IMO, reflect the huge economic cost of operating a BB... ;D
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2005, 04:21:28 pm »
Only sometimes?   8)

Well when I'm beaming marines onboard your ship you're not so bad..  :P
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2005, 04:57:00 pm »
A well escorted BB would be hard pressed to find itself disengaging from any non BB opposition fleet. That said, its still possible to put together a fleet that can catch a BB with one or none of its escorts. I had this happen 2x last night and the fights proved to be spectacular.

Whatever anyone says about a BB not being able to be taken down by a non BB fleet is smoking crack. Its easy. Rock paper scissors. Just make sure u bring all three to the fight and the BB fleet has one less. ;)

and the neet part is, there were no DREDS vs that BB, and the BB disengaged twice vs a HeavyBattleCruiser with a light wing, in 2 missions.  The 3rd one, was vs only the BCH, which the BCH disengaged.

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2005, 05:27:39 pm »
How many MPG does a BB do?  Gas is expensive nowadays. :P

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2005, 05:36:23 pm »
Yeah, krueg, i think its balanced.

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2005, 05:39:24 pm »
Um..what...?
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2005, 05:48:17 pm »
But, Since 16 Capitol ship points is the max after 2275, and the BB takes 11...
That only leaves enough for 1 BCH, so if both sides field a BB, they're not going to have much else heavy metal on...

But, it might prove an interesting option for the side that doesn't have a BB on...
And, IMO, reflect the huge economic cost of operating a BB...
Referring to that post

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2005, 10:19:15 pm »
On GSA we used to do a fun little exercise we called "Sink the Bismarck" having one pilot field a BB of his choice and 5 others take 150 BPV max ships.  In all the times we played I don't think the BB ever won a fight, even when Cougar was flying it, although it would always destroy at least 2 of the smaller ships, killing 4 once.  This suggests to me that a fleet with a DN or BCH in it with good wings should be able to do the trick without the necessity of fleeting.

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2005, 10:20:16 pm »
Heh, I've usually found the opposite playing "Sink the Bismarck".

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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2005, 10:43:42 pm »
There are fleeting rules?  :-[
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Re: I hate BB's- rule proposal
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2005, 02:53:25 am »
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