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some MJ variant examples
« on: October 18, 2005, 07:54:13 pm »
Heres a bunch... what other things could I possibly stick on it? :P
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2005, 08:47:33 pm »
On the side of the hull you could throw a pair of downturned wings with heavy phasers on them. Kind of a counterpoint to the nacelles.
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2005, 09:01:20 pm »
I really like the second one.  The third one just doesn't sit well with me, though.  Keep up the good work.
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2005, 09:23:41 pm »
what renderer do you use  I like the almost physical model look and feel to them  oh and nice work on the models also
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2005, 09:26:42 pm »
Foas: Where the heck would stuff the nacellas at? :P
Tricorder: Thanks, im just trying to put as many things on it as fits :D
Antivyrus: Those were quickly done low quality radiosity renders with Lightwave :)
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2005, 10:39:12 pm »
If you're being serious, you could add an oberth saucer to the front or the back to make a stellar observation ship variant. Or maybe an axGSC.
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2005, 11:02:13 pm »
Quote from: Norsehound on October 18, 2005, 10:39:12 pm
If you're being serious, you could add an oberth saucer to the front or the back to make a stellar observation ship variant. Or maybe an axGSC.

Stellar observation sounds more like... well... me ;D

and oh yeah; science version
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2005, 11:42:58 pm »
Damn. the oberth saucer was too big... maybe i ought to resize it :p
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2005, 11:46:16 pm »
oberth nacelles?
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2005, 02:13:33 am »
Ya, I think using Oberth Nacelles would really help out the design.  Also, have you considered assing a Pod used to Carry large numbers of Shuttles/Fighters?
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2005, 02:29:57 am »
I find the last an interesting design, looks like a early jet/space plane or something. 
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2005, 03:34:09 am »
While the designs are nice and all, everytime I see this ship, I keep thinking about a late 23rd Century flying toilet.  I don't know why, but I always get the urge to lift the lid and flush.

The ships are great though, but that's just me.
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2005, 04:36:27 am »
SF2: Yuck. ;p
Magnum: The pod sounds like a fairly good idea ;)
Dukat: Thanks , I think :D
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2005, 04:37:45 am »
If mackie put a brick in the midhull I can see the flying toilet.

Otherwise, it might make a good tug, too, even if it looks a little silly (What? We have a 747 Flying guppy! have you seen that thing?)
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2005, 06:26:30 am »
how large is it compared to an oberth saucer?

Perhaps make the nacelle pylons horizontal (nacelles too) and stick the obeth saucer on top except give it bay doors port starbaord fore and aft so it turns the saucer into a mobile shuttle carrier? Or perhaps colonail supply ship.
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2005, 05:45:14 pm »
I sort of disagree with you SF2 about adding an Oberth Saucer section to it.  Why do all Fed ships have to have a saucer?  This ship looks more like an Auxilary Vessel designed to do a wide variety of roles and most likely not a pure warship.  I think adding Oberth Nacelles would make it look neat, but they would have to be a little longer then the ones we see on Oberths to make up for the larger hull we see here.

Mackie, I think SF2 might be suggesting a saucer to this because the ships engines feel like they "overpower" the total design.  May I suggest that you reduce the length of the warp pylons by a certain percentage?  Maybe about 75% of the length they are now?  That might help the overall design in my opinion.  And it would be nice to see this as a liight tug vessel, maybe have some sort of connction at the aft able to carry some sort of cargo pods or something.
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2005, 06:01:50 pm »
The oberth's 'sacuer' isn't a saucer as much as it is a pod-like thing. Ent, ENT-A, B, C have saucers, the Oberth has something close to it.

If anything I'd like to see a pair of oberth 'saucers' mounted for a stellar obseration ship variant (Or a scout, or a presidential liner, or a shuttle tender, or an auxilurary carrier). Mount one where the bridge is now, the other one at the back. Since Oberth command pods have shuttlebays ringing the outside of the circle, it could send/recover shuttles for multiple missions.

That's just my say. I also say this is one of the most unique ships I've ever seen modled. Kudos!
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2005, 08:20:59 pm »
Like I said, the obert saucer is too big to be put on it, horizontally. No I havent changed the scales of the parts at all, I quess the original excelsior/obert scales are off o_O
But I quess I could try making one with Oberth's saucer in the back but I dont know where I could stick the oberths nacellas on it then?

One thing is sure, I will try making a variant that can carry more shuttles and a variant that has a saucer :p

And oh yeah!
"Vessel designed to do a wide variety of roles and most likely not a pure warship."
Thats exactly what it is :P
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2005, 08:44:27 pm »
...Just out of curiosity, why would you need the oberth nacelles? If anything it's just extra power (at least to the SFB mind.. that's WARP.) and they'd probably look funny anyway.
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Re: some MJ variant examples
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2005, 08:55:45 pm »
Quote from: Norsehound on October 19, 2005, 08:44:27 pm
...Just out of curiosity, why would you need the oberth nacelles? If anything it's just extra power (at least to the SFB mind.. that's WARP.) and they'd probably look funny anyway.

I ment that I could try what it looks like with Oberth nacellas instead of the ones the ship has right now :P
And oh yeah, ive tried the oberth saucer idea a couple of times now, it looks horrible any way I try to set it up :/
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