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Offline KAT Chuut-Ritt

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Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« on: October 17, 2005, 08:57:42 am »
The roleplay group is just getting started and we are putting together reference threads for the various races.  While we have an excellent start I figured I would ask the community at large to provide any good links on the SFC races.  Such links could include anything from fleet deployments, to cultural note, to anatomical descriptions.  All assistence will be appreciated.

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2005, 09:43:21 am »
Don't know about links, but I've got the SFB Klink & Romulan gurps sourcebooks
as well as the PD book, that has a bit about the background for all the races.

Course there's no way I'm typing it all out so I'm not sure if it's any help at all.
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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2005, 03:29:41 pm »
GFL-Reptor's ISC Theater is a must see:  http://isctheater.50megs.com/

It's what originally caught my attention and encouraged me to join the GFL. ;D

Strictly SFB-ish ISC Dedication page:  http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1945/SFB/ISC.htm

You need to read the SFC OP rule book for info on the Meskeen "Captain's race".  You know, da Frogs.
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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2005, 10:22:00 pm »
Thanks for the info Karnak, although I'd already found those particular sites, still nice you posted them for reference.

P.S. The Veltressai were the actual "Captain's Race" dating back to the creation of the ISC, the Meskeen were Taldren inventions, likely to appeal to the French market  :P

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2005, 10:37:26 pm »
This is SFC!! Not SFB!!

Thissa means dat messa git to say that the Meskeen are dey big Bosses of the ISC. ;D

PS. I don't think the Vetrassi of SFB were very marketable vis-a-vis the Taldrenite Meskeen Frogs either. Since the times of Charlemagne, everyone knows of the Frogs. You either hate or luv 'em. Nothing in between.  Either way, it gets people's attention. :P


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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2005, 03:30:09 am »
This is SFC!! Not SFB!!

Thissa means dat messa git to say that the Meskeen are dey big Bosses of the ISC. ;D

PS. I don't think the Vetrassi of SFB were very marketable vis-a-vis the Taldrenite Meskeen Frogs either. Since the times of Charlemagne, everyone knows of the Frogs. You either hate or luv 'em. Nothing in between.  Either way, it gets people's attention. :P



While the Meskeen are quite tasy to the Kzin palate, the Vetrassi can have 4 times the meat, thats better eating!.

Personally I think the Vetrassi would make better commanders in general, as you would always be able to have at leat one of the captains on the bridge at all times.  They could learn things 4 times as fast as well, giving them an edge.  I do agree, however that for marketing a product the froggies likely worked better.


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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2005, 05:59:54 am »
Also:

Veltrassi look like the Talosians.  Could be confusing when you start thinking of them and "The Cage".
They are more technically / intellectually oriented, not action-oriented like every other captain in the game.
They are big on the Pacification Programme, while SFC needs the ISC to be much more agressive from before they really knew what was going on.

The Meeskeen were designed to end all these problems... ;)

Froggy is a lot different than those lovely Talosians.
While smart, they are also more physical and can do the "jump into combat" thing better than 4 technicians that can't be more than 25km apart.
Their personality is comprable to Humans, including agressiveness...  ::)

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2005, 07:51:05 am »
Two races that particularly have little information about them seem to be the Lyrans and the Hydrans.  If I can't find more on them might have to just draw up a model of their culture based on case studies.

I Think I will select t00l and Likkerpig as prime examples of their races if noone can furnish more info ;)

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2005, 07:53:52 am »
Two races that particularly have little information about them seem to be the Lyrans and the Hydrans.  If I can't find more on them might have to just draw up a model of their culture based on case studies.

I Think I will select t00l and Likkerpig as prime examples of their races if noone can furnish more info ;)

Fortunately I have an advanced preview copy of "Feline Empires" from the SFB guys.
I'd be more than happy to answer any questions about the Lyran.

Of course I'm not actually allowed to show you the book..
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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2005, 02:31:33 pm »
Two races that particularly have little information about them seem to be the Lyrans and the Hydrans.  If I can't find more on them might have to just draw up a model of their culture based on case studies.

I Think I will select t00l and Likkerpig as prime examples of their races if noone can furnish more info ;)

Fortunately I have an advanced preview copy of "Feline Empires" from the SFB guys.
I'd be more than happy to answer any questions about the Lyran.

Of course I'm not actually allowed to show you the book..

Likkerpig it is then

Here is a question for you Hexx...... how is it spelled?...clamatoo or klamato?.....

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2005, 11:14:11 pm »
Two races that particularly have little information about them seem to be the Lyrans and the Hydrans.  If I can't find more on them might have to just draw up a model of their culture based on case studies.

I Think I will select t00l and Likkerpig as prime examples of their races if noone can furnish more info ;)

Fortunately I have an advanced preview copy of "Feline Empires" from the SFB guys.
I'd be more than happy to answer any questions about the Lyran.

Of course I'm not actually allowed to show you the book..

Likkerpig it is then

Here is a question for you Hexx...... how is it spelled?...clamatoo or klamato?.....

Clamato you heathen!
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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2005, 02:06:50 am »
Like Hexx would know... he drinks Shirley Temples!

Shirley Temple's what exactly?  ;D
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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2005, 12:53:48 pm »
Like Hexx would know... he drinks Shirley Temples!

Shirley Temple's what exactly?  ;D

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2005, 04:48:20 am »
So far have found a sizable amount of background material for all of the races except the Hydrans.  It seems there is very little info about this race.

If any Hydran players have any race background sites, or other info, it would be appreciated if you could share this.  So far all that I've found thus far is the basic race  background description from starfleet battles and a couple of odd lines to add to it..  I don't have any of the later modules and am wondering if there is any other useful info in those that might be shared.  Be a shame to have to make up Hydran culture and institutions on the fly, as I doubt that I could do a very good job at it with such limited info.

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2005, 06:17:43 pm »
Marcus wrote up some stuff which is mirrored on XC's site.

http://www.xenocorp.net/H_bardCorner/Hydrax.htm

Not sure how SFB-canon it is though.

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2005, 11:43:23 pm »
Marcus wrote up some stuff which is mirrored on XC's site.

http://www.xenocorp.net/H_bardCorner/Hydrax.htm

Not sure how SFB-canon it is though.


Excellent stuff there t00l, doesn't have to be pure SFB cannon for good roleplay for SFC, or good Dyna-play for that matter  ;)



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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2005, 09:14:33 am »
So far have found a sizable amount of background material for all of the races except the Hydrans.  It seems there is very little info about this race.

If any Hydran players have any race background sites, or other info, it would be appreciated if you could share this.  So far all that I've found thus far is the basic race  background description from starfleet battles and a couple of odd lines to add to it..  I don't have any of the later modules and am wondering if there is any other useful info in those that might be shared.  Be a shame to have to make up Hydran culture and institutions on the fly, as I doubt that I could do a very good job at it with such limited info.

There are some good Captain's Log articles on each race's navy. I remember reading in some Captain's Log somewhere all about the inner workings of the Hydran navy. Basically, Hydrans are a derived template of the Napolenic Era Royal Navy where a mixture of privileged aritocracy and sponsored "on-the-rise" officers rule the officer ranks. Basically, an officer cannot hope to make captain's rank unless they pick up a powerful sponsor who may or may not owe the their rank more to aristo-privilege vis-a-vis plain old merit. This is in stark constrast to the navies of countries like the US or republican France where aristocrats are not even allowed to become citizens, so all "citizen" officers advance "based-on-merit" alone. Of course, any large organization will inherently develop its own unspoken political policy that applies to officer promotions and plum assigments.

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2005, 09:39:56 am »
Weren't the Hydrans actually "contolled" by the Guilds rather
than the Nobility?
I seemto remember reading somewhere that the Guilds won the Civil War
and I think it would be a logocal assumption that the retreat during the General war
to the "old Colonies" would only strengthen the Guilds hold.

Now whether Hydran aristocracy is also derived from guild membership I doubt, but I admit
I have no idea.
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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2005, 10:53:51 am »
Don't forget this:

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Re: Roleplay Writer's Group seeking info
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2005, 11:54:28 am »
Weren't the Hydrans actually "contolled" by the Guilds rather
than the Nobility?
I seemto remember reading somewhere that the Guilds won the Civil War
and I think it would be a logocal assumption that the retreat during the General war
to the "old Colonies" would only strengthen the Guilds hold.

Now whether Hydran aristocracy is also derived from guild membership I doubt, but I admit
I have no idea.

That just it. Napoleonic Era Great Britain was the largest and strongest economy in world which is why King George III was able to finance the largest navy in world (ie. the Napoleonic era Royal Navy was UK's largest employer with approx 119,000 head count on the payroll of the service), hire Hessian mercenaries for American Revolutionary Wars, and, over a 25 year period, finance numerous expensive Continental European alliances against the machinations of France.  Basically, Great Britain at that time was called "the shopkeeper of the world". Contrast this with France that was bankrupted over the US Revolutionary Wars and was always hurting for cash in the Napoleonic Wars; thereby, forcing France to finance all its wars by looting the conquered nations of central Europe, and consequently leaving Napoleon a very unpopular ruler outside of France.

The mercantile and industrial barons were largely born out of the Guild society which supported well revered aristocracy that ran the gov't. and controlled the Defence forces. At one time, only nobility could be British officers and most of them bought their commissions. The army was used as a dumping ground for noble men that needed something to do, like Wellington, while the Navy was more critical to the realm. Ergo, meritocracy of the non-nobility was tolerated and sponsored by the British gentry for the good of the nation. For example, Nelson was the son of the middle-class, not the ruling gentry.

The SFB sources I've read all show that the Hydran Navy was based on this Napoleonic era Royal Navy template.