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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #140 on: October 31, 2005, 04:43:05 am »

 I still don't get why this is taken as proof of exotic forms of energy, it seems like standard Quantum Physics (if such a word can be applied to QM) to me... 


Well the uncertainty principle allows "imaginary" negative energy states for particles, quanta and so on. imagine a sine wave with the positive curve representing physical particles and energy states normal for our universe and the negative part of the sine wave representing virtual particles and quanta. now introduce a set of casimir plates that supresses a great deal of the virtual particles and exchanges. there are no or at least much fewer virtual energies in the gap between the plates. thus the area in the gap has less energy relative to the surrounding area which is considered  at the zero point or ground state. this renders it's energy negative and it's mass negative compared to free regions of space. note that casimir plated are attracted to each other regardless of charge. this is the opposite or negative of what should happen by conventional understandings of physical laws. but it would be what would be expected if signs were reversed in the physical equations.

This all sounds totally reasonable to me, and indeed has been pretty well proven by the Casimir Effect, however I noticed that...

"The possibility[/u] that electromagnetic zero-point energy may[/u] be involved in the production of inertial and gravitational forces opens the possibility[/u] that both inertia and gravitation might[/u] someday be controlled and manipulated. This COULD[/u] have a profound impact on propulsion and space travel."

...there is a lot of very indisicive language used in here about using vacuum energy for space travel, and no mention at all of faster than light travel...


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« Reply #141 on: October 31, 2005, 04:46:17 am »
isn't that also refered to as zero point energy?
firstly scientists are not engineers and secondly they are afraid of the peer dogmatism that such "way out" research would bring on them and their reputations.

Would it surprise you to know that I can see exactly where they're coming from?  ;)
No. but you must remember undiscovered stuff is only found by looking where no one has bothered to look.  and since science is about that discovery then such attitudes are well...curious.

I always thought that science was about separating provable fact from myth, and that the discoveries in science emerged from the application of the knowledge gained from this filtering process...  Science is not about discovery, it's about explanation, and asking the right questions...


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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #142 on: October 31, 2005, 11:02:17 am »
say speakin' of staid dogmatic scientists: remember way back when when anyone who was not a k0ok knew that stellar processes did not produce elements heavier than iron except during super nova explosions? anyone who said otherwise was a fool, a charlatan or a liar. well now that lead has been verified in several stars that definitely were not novas there is nary a peep of apology to those of us who said stars could indeed sythesize trans iron elements. nope not one "We fooked up and we're sorry" from the smarmy peer reviewed robe wearing acolytes of science dogma. well they can all bugger off.

the Iron minimum is a pretty reasonable rule of thumb, just as Newtons laws are a still a pretty good rule of thumb...  No good scientist would ever say that theories should be considered beyond modification...  Hell, Einstein and Heisenberg even modified the Law of Conservation of Energy...


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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #143 on: October 31, 2005, 11:20:16 am »
isn't that also refered to as zero point energy?
firstly scientists are not engineers and secondly they are afraid of the peer dogmatism that such "way out" research would bring on them and their reputations.

Would it surprise you to know that I can see exactly where they're coming from?  ;)
No. but you must remember undiscovered stuff is only found by looking where no one has bothered to look.  and since science is about that discovery then such attitudes are well...curious.

I always thought that science was about separating provable fact from myth, and that the discoveries in science emerged from the application of the knowledge gained from this filtering process...  Science is not about discovery, it's about explanation, and asking the right questions...

In principle, but not necessarily in practice.  Just look at all of the "accidental" discoveries, or inventions made by people who were working outside the scientific process.  It's astounding.
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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #144 on: October 31, 2005, 11:32:37 am »
In principle, but not necessarily in practice.  Just look at all of the "accidental" discoveries, or inventions made by people who were working outside the scientific process.  It's astounding.

I can't think of many accidental scientific discoveries...  Inventions of course are a completely different field, more to do with engineering I would think...


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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #145 on: October 31, 2005, 11:35:00 am »

 I still don't get why this is taken as proof of exotic forms of energy, it seems like standard Quantum Physics (if such a word can be applied to QM) to me... 


Well the uncertainty principle allows "imaginary" negative energy states for particles, quanta and so on. imagine a sine wave with the positive curve representing physical particles and energy states normal for our universe and the negative part of the sine wave representing virtual particles and quanta. now introduce a set of casimir plates that supresses a great deal of the virtual particles and exchanges. there are no or at least much fewer virtual energies in the gap between the plates. thus the area in the gap has less energy relative to the surrounding area which is considered  at the zero point or ground state. this renders it's energy negative and it's mass negative compared to free regions of space. note that casimir plated are attracted to each other regardless of charge. this is the opposite or negative of what should happen by conventional understandings of physical laws. but it would be what would be expected if signs were reversed in the physical equations.

This all sounds totally reasonable to me, and indeed has been pretty well proven by the Casimir Effect, however I noticed that...

"The possibility[/u] that electromagnetic zero-point energy may[/u] be involved in the production of inertial and gravitational forces opens the possibility[/u] that both inertia and gravitation might[/u] someday be controlled and manipulated. This COULD[/u] have a profound impact on propulsion and space travel."

...there is a lot of very indisicive language used in here about using vacuum energy for space travel, and no mention at all of faster than light travel...

yeah it could have been a bit more illuminating. the author could have said that this theory is one of a handful considered serious cosmological contenders for QG theory. that would have given it more credibility. that is what he should have wrote because it is true.

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« Reply #146 on: October 31, 2005, 12:46:20 pm »
In principle, but not necessarily in practice.  Just look at all of the "accidental" discoveries, or inventions made by people who were working outside the scientific process.  It's astounding.

I can't think of many accidental scientific discoveries...  Inventions of course are a completely different field, more to do with engineering I would think...

I think in a lot of instances an invention is made, then science backs into the theory to explain the invention.  Much like how in the world a bumble bee can fly.  According to an aeronautical engineer, it can't.  ;D
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« Reply #147 on: October 31, 2005, 12:53:44 pm »
or bubble fusion. but the bumble bee flight mystery has been solved after centuries of puzzlement.

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« Reply #148 on: October 31, 2005, 02:25:57 pm »
or bubble fusion. but the bumble bee flight mystery has been solved after centuries of puzzlement.

Ahh... but not the physics of it, because we did not understand (before the Wright Brothers' era) that birds are able to fly because the upper surface of the wing is more curved than the lower surface.  Therefore, when air hits the leading edge of the wing, it travels faster over the top of the wing than below it, creating negative pressure and pulling the wing into the air (rather than lifting it, therefore "lift" is a deceptive term).

We didn't know there was a problem with bees flying until the Wright Brothers managed to get the right combinations in place and fly, then science figure out why they did it, then someone noticed that a bumble bee did not fit the flight model.  It was only about an 80 year old mystery when it was solved.   ;D
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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #149 on: October 31, 2005, 05:09:32 pm »

 I still don't get why this is taken as proof of exotic forms of energy, it seems like standard Quantum Physics (if such a word can be applied to QM) to me... 


Well the uncertainty principle allows "imaginary" negative energy states for particles, quanta and so on. imagine a sine wave with the positive curve representing physical particles and energy states normal for our universe and the negative part of the sine wave representing virtual particles and quanta. now introduce a set of casimir plates that supresses a great deal of the virtual particles and exchanges. there are no or at least much fewer virtual energies in the gap between the plates. thus the area in the gap has less energy relative to the surrounding area which is considered  at the zero point or ground state. this renders it's energy negative and it's mass negative compared to free regions of space. note that casimir plated are attracted to each other regardless of charge. this is the opposite or negative of what should happen by conventional understandings of physical laws. but it would be what would be expected if signs were reversed in the physical equations.

This all sounds totally reasonable to me, and indeed has been pretty well proven by the Casimir Effect, however I noticed that...

"The possibility[/u] that electromagnetic zero-point energy may[/u] be involved in the production of inertial and gravitational forces opens the possibility[/u] that both inertia and gravitation might[/u] someday be controlled and manipulated. This COULD[/u] have a profound impact on propulsion and space travel."

...there is a lot of very indisicive language used in here about using vacuum energy for space travel, and no mention at all of faster than light travel...

yeah it could have been a bit more illuminating. the author could have said that this theory is one of a handful considered serious cosmological contenders for QG theory. that would have given it more credibility. that is what he should have wrote because it is true.

As a matter of fact i have read an article on this at science daily detailing the nuts and bolts of that particular view of inertia and gravity. I can find the link if you are interested.

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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #150 on: October 31, 2005, 06:48:57 pm »
Fundamental physics comprises the attempt to understand the nature of the stable elementary particles (leptons and quarks), the messenger particles (gauge bosons) which mediate the interactions, and the relationship of the four interactions (electromagnetism, weak, strong and gravitational) to each other. Experiments in which particles are made to collide are consistent with elementary particles being immeasurably small, structureless objects. The upper limit on the collisionally-measured size of the electron, for example, is <10-17 cm. However modern physics theory no longer views particles as point-like objects. In place of that view, quantum field theory assumes that all of space is filled with a quantum field and interprets all stable particles and the messenger particles as excitations of this field. This has resulted in the "standard model" which can legitimately boast precision of some predicted particle properties to an amazing 13 significant figures, but requires 19 hand-adjusted parameters as basic input. There is also the central problem that quantum theory appears to be fundamentally incompatible with general relativity.

It now appears that quantum field theory may be the low energy limit of superstring theory. Superstring theory assumes that spacetime is not merely four-dimensional, but rather that there are many additional dimensions -- such as six Calabi-Yau dimensions -- which exist but differ from the ordinary space and time that we experience in everyday life by virtue of being curled up on themselves. Both the stable particles and the messenger particles are regarded as loops of string. Parallel to quantum field theory, particles are interpreted as excitations of such strings. As bizarre as superstring theory may sound to the layman, there are amazing properties, such as resolving the conflict between quantum laws and general relativity and having no necessary free parameters, that make the theory quite intriguing. An excellent overview is that of string theorist, Brian Greene, in his book The Elegant Universe. (Recent developments since 1997 indicate that superstring theory may itself be a subset of an even more comprehensive theory, M-brane theory, which adds yet another compact dimension to superstring theory.)

In both quantum field theory and superstring theory, the quantum field excitations or string representations of particles have no intrinsic inertia. We use the term "inertia" deliberately in place of "mass" because in both quantum field theory and in superstring theory there is a postulated mechanism for massless particles to acquire mass from interactions with an hypothesized Higgs field. However the mass that is acquired in this way is mass in the sense of equivalent energy, not in the sense of inertia. If one assumes that inertia is an intrinsic property of mass or its energy equivalent, a Higgs mechanism may indeed be the end of the story. However the possibility that there exists an extrinsic mechanism for generating inertia goes back at least to the work of Ernst Mach in the 19th century. As discussed in great detail in the book Concepts of Mass in Contemporary Physics and Philosophy by physicist-philosopher Max Jammer the question of why a reaction force should arise when any physical object is accelerated remains a legitimate and heretofore unanswered question.

It is suggested that inertia is indeed a fundamental property that has not been properly addressed even by superstring theory. The acquisition of mass-energy may still allow for, indeed demand, a mechanism to generate an inertial reaction force upon acceleration. Or to put it another way, even when a Higgs particle is finally detected establishing the existence of a Higgs field, one may still need a mechanism for giving that Higgs-induced mass the property of inertia. A mechanism capable of generating an inertial reaction force has been discovered using the techniques of stochastic electrodynamics (origin of inertia). Perhaps this simple yet elegant result may be pointing to a deep new insight on inertia and the principle of equivalence, and if so, how this may be unified with modern quantum field theory and superstring theory.

The empty vacuum of older physics is today replaced by an active one in which virtual particles come into and go out of existence on timescales allowed by Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. A concrete proof of this is the measurement of the distance (or energy) dependence of the fine-structure "constant". This is explained by vacuum polarization, wherein the electric charge of a (real) particle is partially screened by those of other (virtual) particles. In general, the physics of the quantum vacuum is a rich if complex subject.

A better understanding of the origin of inertia would lead to new insights into the laws of motion, perhaps with practical applications such as to spacecraft propulsion (in the far future). The laws of the quantum vacuum are not completely understood, but certainly their manifestations are frequently stochastic. Fluctuations of vacuum fields are irregular, but their averaged effects can be calculated using quantum field theory (QFT). Within the rather broad scope of the latter term, calculations agree with observations to great accuracy in processes where electrons interact with photons, i.e. quantum electrodynamics (QED). The basic formulation of QFT as a theory of quantum electrodynamics can be extended also to the theory of the strong or nuclear interaction, where under the term quantum chromodynamics (QCD) it may be a subject for study in the future. Right now, probably the best-studied consequence of QFT as applied to electrodynamics comes from measurements of the Casimir effect. This effect, wherein parallel plates in apparently empty space experience a force of attraction, clearly shows that the quantum vacuum is not passive. Useful calculations can also be done in this subject using a semiclassical approach to the interactions of charged particles with an electromagnetic field known as stochastic electrodynamics (SED). One version of the latter envisages a zero-point electromagnetic field whose quanta buffet charged particles, producing a microscopic motion whih Schroedinger dubbed "zitterbewegung". Using the techniques of SED an intriguing new theoretical approach is suggesting a deep connection between electrodynamics, the origin of inertia and the quantum wave nature of matter.

Primary Articles (see Scientific Articles for additional articles)

Gravity and the Quantum Vacuum Inertia Hypothesis
Alfonso Rueda & Bernard Haisch, Annalen der Physik, Vol. 14, No. 8, 479-498 (2005).

Analysis of Orbital Decay Time for the Classical Hydrogen Atom Interacting with Circularly Polarized Electromagnetic Radiation
Daniel C. Cole & Yi Zou, Physical Review E, 69, 016601, (2004).

Inertial mass and the quantum vacuum fields
Bernard Haisch, Alfonso Rueda & York Dobyns, Annalen der Physik, Vol. 10, No. 5, 393-414 (2001).

Stochastic nonrelativistic approach to gravity as originating from vacuum zero-point field van der Waals forces
Daniel C. Cole, Alfonso Rueda, Konn Danley, Physical Review A, 63, 054101, (2001).

The Case for Inertia as a Vacuum Effect: a Reply to Woodward & Mahood
Y. Dobyns, A. Rueda & B.Haisch, Foundations of Physics, Vol. 30, No. 1, 59 (2000).


On the relation between a zero-point-field-induced inertial effect and the Einstein-de Broglie formula
B. Haisch & A. Rueda, Physics Letters A, 268, 224, (2000).

Contribution to inertial mass by reaction of the vacuum to accelerated motion
A. Rueda & B. Haisch, Foundations of Physics, Vol. 28, No. 7, pp. 1057-1108 (1998).

Inertial mass as reaction of the vacuum to acccelerated motion
A. Rueda & B. Haisch, Physics Letters A, vol. 240, No. 3, pp. 115-126, (1998).

Reply to Michel's "Comment on Zero-Point Fluctuations and the Cosmological Constant"
B. Haisch & A. Rueda, Astrophysical Journal, 488, 563, (1997).

Quantum and classical statistics of the electromagnetic zero-point-field
M. Ibison & B. Haisch, Physical Review A, 54, pp. 2737-2744, (1996).

Vacuum Zero-Point Field Pressure Instability in Astrophysical Plasmas and the Formation of Cosmic Voids
A. Rueda, B. Haisch & D.C. Cole, Astrophysical Journal, Vol. 445, pp. 7-16 (1995).

Inertia as a zero-point-field Lorentz force
B. Haisch, A. Rueda & H.E. Puthoff, Physical Review A, Vol. 49, No. 2, pp. 678-694 (1994).

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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #151 on: October 31, 2005, 08:24:25 pm »

 I still don't get why this is taken as proof of exotic forms of energy, it seems like standard Quantum Physics (if such a word can be applied to QM) to me... 


Well the uncertainty principle allows "imaginary" negative energy states for particles, quanta and so on. imagine a sine wave with the positive curve representing physical particles and energy states normal for our universe and the negative part of the sine wave representing virtual particles and quanta. now introduce a set of casimir plates that supresses a great deal of the virtual particles and exchanges. there are no or at least much fewer virtual energies in the gap between the plates. thus the area in the gap has less energy relative to the surrounding area which is considered  at the zero point or ground state. this renders it's energy negative and it's mass negative compared to free regions of space. note that casimir plated are attracted to each other regardless of charge. this is the opposite or negative of what should happen by conventional understandings of physical laws. but it would be what would be expected if signs were reversed in the physical equations.

This all sounds totally reasonable to me, and indeed has been pretty well proven by the Casimir Effect, however I noticed that...

"The possibility[/u] that electromagnetic zero-point energy may[/u] be involved in the production of inertial and gravitational forces opens the possibility[/u] that both inertia and gravitation might[/u] someday be controlled and manipulated. This COULD[/u] have a profound impact on propulsion and space travel."

...there is a lot of very indisicive language used in here about using vacuum energy for space travel, and no mention at all of faster than light travel...

yeah it could have been a bit more illuminating. the author could have said that this theory is one of a handful considered serious cosmological contenders for QG theory. that would have given it more credibility. that is what he should have wrote because it is true.

It maybe possibly might could be true, but that remains to be seen...  However, one would have to conceal the possibility the Quantum Mechanics and Gravity have not been reconciled because they cannot be reconciled...  Maybe the Spacetime continuum is a multithreaded Operating System...


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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #152 on: October 31, 2005, 08:31:37 pm »
Fundamental physics comprises the attempt to understand the nature of the stable elementary particles (leptons and quarks), the messenger particles (gauge bosons) which mediate the interactions, and the relationship of the four interactions (electromagnetism, weak, strong and gravitational) to each other. Experiments in which particles are made to collide are consistent with elementary particles being immeasurably small, structureless objects. The upper limit on the collisionally-measured size of the electron, for example, is <10-17 cm. However modern physics theory no longer views particles as point-like objects. In place of that view, quantum field theory assumes that all of space is filled with a quantum field and interprets all stable particles and the messenger particles as excitations of this field. This has resulted in the "standard model" which can legitimately boast precision of some predicted particle properties to an amazing 13 significant figures, but requires 19 hand-adjusted parameters as basic input. There is also the central problem that quantum theory appears to be fundamentally incompatible with general relativity.

It now appears that quantum field theory may be the low energy limit of superstring theory. Superstring theory assumes that spacetime is not merely four-dimensional, but rather that there are many additional dimensions -- such as six Calabi-Yau dimensions -- which exist but differ from the ordinary space and time that we experience in everyday life by virtue of being curled up on themselves. Both the stable particles and the messenger particles are regarded as loops of string. Parallel to quantum field theory, particles are interpreted as excitations of such strings. As bizarre as superstring theory may sound to the layman, there are amazing properties, such as resolving the conflict between quantum laws and general relativity and having no necessary free parameters, that make the theory quite intriguing. An excellent overview is that of string theorist, Brian Greene, in his book The Elegant Universe. (Recent developments since 1997 indicate that superstring theory may itself be a subset of an even more comprehensive theory, M-brane theory, which adds yet another compact dimension to superstring theory.)

In both quantum field theory and superstring theory, the quantum field excitations or string representations of particles have no intrinsic inertia. We use the term "inertia" deliberately in place of "mass" because in both quantum field theory and in superstring theory there is a postulated mechanism for massless particles to acquire mass from interactions with an hypothesized Higgs field. However the mass that is acquired in this way is mass in the sense of equivalent energy, not in the sense of inertia. If one assumes that inertia is an intrinsic property of mass or its energy equivalent, a Higgs mechanism may indeed be the end of the story. However the possibility that there exists an extrinsic mechanism for generating inertia goes back at least to the work of Ernst Mach in the 19th century. As discussed in great detail in the book Concepts of Mass in Contemporary Physics and Philosophy by physicist-philosopher Max Jammer the question of why a reaction force should arise when any physical object is accelerated remains a legitimate and heretofore unanswered question.

It is suggested that inertia is indeed a fundamental property that has not been properly addressed even by superstring theory. The acquisition of mass-energy may still allow for, indeed demand, a mechanism to generate an inertial reaction force upon acceleration. Or to put it another way, even when a Higgs particle is finally detected establishing the existence of a Higgs field, one may still need a mechanism for giving that Higgs-induced mass the property of inertia. A mechanism capable of generating an inertial reaction force has been discovered using the techniques of stochastic electrodynamics (origin of inertia). Perhaps this simple yet elegant result may be pointing to a deep new insight on inertia and the principle of equivalence, and if so, how this may be unified with modern quantum field theory and superstring theory.

The empty vacuum of older physics is today replaced by an active one in which virtual particles come into and go out of existence on timescales allowed by Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. A concrete proof of this is the measurement of the distance (or energy) dependence of the fine-structure "constant". This is explained by vacuum polarization, wherein the electric charge of a (real) particle is partially screened by those of other (virtual) particles. In general, the physics of the quantum vacuum is a rich if complex subject.

A better understanding of the origin of inertia would lead to new insights into the laws of motion, perhaps with practical applications such as to spacecraft propulsion (in the far future). The laws of the quantum vacuum are not completely understood, but certainly their manifestations are frequently stochastic. Fluctuations of vacuum fields are irregular, but their averaged effects can be calculated using quantum field theory (QFT). Within the rather broad scope of the latter term, calculations agree with observations to great accuracy in processes where electrons interact with photons, i.e. quantum electrodynamics (QED). The basic formulation of QFT as a theory of quantum electrodynamics can be extended also to the theory of the strong or nuclear interaction, where under the term quantum chromodynamics (QCD) it may be a subject for study in the future. Right now, probably the best-studied consequence of QFT as applied to electrodynamics comes from measurements of the Casimir effect. This effect, wherein parallel plates in apparently empty space experience a force of attraction, clearly shows that the quantum vacuum is not passive. Useful calculations can also be done in this subject using a semiclassical approach to the interactions of charged particles with an electromagnetic field known as stochastic electrodynamics (SED). One version of the latter envisages a zero-point electromagnetic field whose quanta buffet charged particles, producing a microscopic motion whih Schroedinger dubbed "zitterbewegung". Using the techniques of SED an intriguing new theoretical approach is suggesting a deep connection between electrodynamics, the origin of inertia and the quantum wave nature of matter.

Primary Articles (see Scientific Articles for additional articles)

Gravity and the Quantum Vacuum Inertia Hypothesis
Alfonso Rueda & Bernard Haisch, Annalen der Physik, Vol. 14, No. 8, 479-498 (2005).

Analysis of Orbital Decay Time for the Classical Hydrogen Atom Interacting with Circularly Polarized Electromagnetic Radiation
Daniel C. Cole & Yi Zou, Physical Review E, 69, 016601, (2004).

Inertial mass and the quantum vacuum fields
Bernard Haisch, Alfonso Rueda & York Dobyns, Annalen der Physik, Vol. 10, No. 5, 393-414 (2001).

Stochastic nonrelativistic approach to gravity as originating from vacuum zero-point field van der Waals forces
Daniel C. Cole, Alfonso Rueda, Konn Danley, Physical Review A, 63, 054101, (2001).

The Case for Inertia as a Vacuum Effect: a Reply to Woodward & Mahood
Y. Dobyns, A. Rueda & B.Haisch, Foundations of Physics, Vol. 30, No. 1, 59 (2000).


On the relation between a zero-point-field-induced inertial effect and the Einstein-de Broglie formula
B. Haisch & A. Rueda, Physics Letters A, 268, 224, (2000).

Contribution to inertial mass by reaction of the vacuum to accelerated motion
A. Rueda & B. Haisch, Foundations of Physics, Vol. 28, No. 7, pp. 1057-1108 (1998).

Inertial mass as reaction of the vacuum to acccelerated motion
A. Rueda & B. Haisch, Physics Letters A, vol. 240, No. 3, pp. 115-126, (1998).

Reply to Michel's "Comment on Zero-Point Fluctuations and the Cosmological Constant"
B. Haisch & A. Rueda, Astrophysical Journal, 488, 563, (1997).

Quantum and classical statistics of the electromagnetic zero-point-field
M. Ibison & B. Haisch, Physical Review A, 54, pp. 2737-2744, (1996).

Vacuum Zero-Point Field Pressure Instability in Astrophysical Plasmas and the Formation of Cosmic Voids
A. Rueda, B. Haisch & D.C. Cole, Astrophysical Journal, Vol. 445, pp. 7-16 (1995).

Inertia as a zero-point-field Lorentz force
B. Haisch, A. Rueda & H.E. Puthoff, Physical Review A, Vol. 49, No. 2, pp. 678-694 (1994).

Superstring Theory:  Lot's of nice looking maths, reassuringly complex, plenty of magic numbers inserted to fudge certain problems, but no real evidence to back it up and a sh*t load of metaphysical baggage in the shape of hyper dimensions curled up so tight they are impercebtible... 

Elegant and Beautiful, the music of the spheres revisited, but I'll be waiting for a lot more evidence...


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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #153 on: October 31, 2005, 08:39:28 pm »
well whatever the case, higgs field interchange bosons, or quantum seaweed and barnacles science is going to find out. The higgs if it exists will be found in the next 5 years. we are learning how to grasp the quantum goo with casimir, van der waals and with another force which until this thread i had no idea was related to quantum flux.

 what is cool is if it is the latter then it won't necessarily be scientists in ivy league universities and multibillion dollar laboratories that find the grail. it might be some basement "k0ok" with second hand or homemade instruments and insatiable curiousity and strange theories and crazy goals that does it.

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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #154 on: October 31, 2005, 08:41:05 pm »
Superstring Theory:  Lot's of nice looking maths, reassuringly complex, plenty of magic numbers inserted to fudge certain problems, but no real evidence to back it up and a sh*t load of metaphysical baggage in the shape of hyper dimensions curled up so tight they are impercebtible... 

Elegant and Beautiful, the music of the spheres revisited, but I'll be waiting for a lot more evidence...

Well stand by: i'll get you your evidence in short order. I'm off to fetch it via google.

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Cosmic String Observed
« Reply #155 on: October 31, 2005, 08:57:51 pm »
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A boatload of dark matter, or a galaxy, group of galaxies, black hole, or any other massive 3D object would cause gravitational lensing involving multiple images arranged in an arc or circle around the lens. The theoretical hallmark of gravitational lensing caused by a cosmic string is a pair -- two and only two -- identical images close together. I really don't know much about it, but it seems to me that the nature of the lens -- 3D mass or 1D cosmic string -- is (theoretically) easily determined from the nature of the images it creates.


http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-07/ns-iia072705.php


New Scientist


Is it a cosmic string we're seeing?
THE case for the existence of cosmic strings has just been boosted. If confirmed, these one-dimensional threads of energy that can span millions of light years could be the first sign of extra dimensions in the universe. Cosmic strings are predicted by string theory. They are gigantic counterparts of the strings that are thought to give rise to the fundamental particles of matter. String theory suggests that our universe may be a three-dimensional island, or "brane", and that the big bang was the result of a collision between our universe and another 3D brane. The collision would have given rise to one-dimensional cosmic strings, and finding such a string would strengthen the theory and support the idea that extra dimensions exist.
The immense energy of a cosmic string would warp the space-time around it. If one existed somewhere between us and a distant galaxy, say, the warped space-time would create two possible paths for the light from the galaxy to reach Earth. This would result in two identical images of the galaxy in our sky, just a whisker apart. Last year, that's exactly what Mikhail Sazhin of Capodimonte Astronomical Observatory in Naples, Italy, and the Sternberg Astronomical Institute in Moscow, Russia, and his colleagues found. They named the pair CSL-1 (New Scientist, 18 December 2004, p 30).

Many astronomers were sceptical of Sazhin's claim that a string was creating the images. Abraham Loeb of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, said that CSL-1 is merely two very similar galaxies that happen to be close together. Now, Sazhin's team has presented more evidence that the two images are of the same galaxy. In March, the team used the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope at Paranal, Chile, to record detailed spectra of the two galaxies and found that they are identical (www.arxiv.org/astro-ph/0506400 ). This adds further weight to the possibility that CSL-1 is an artefact of a string, he says. "We are 99.9 per cent sure of this."

Loeb remains unconvinced. "It is not clear whether the quality of the spectra is sufficient to separate, for example, the Milky Way galaxy from the Andromeda galaxy in the local group of galaxies," he says. "Both the Milky Way and Andromeda might have similar spectra." He adds that if the astronomers could use their technique to tell these neighbours apart, then it would make their case for CSL-1 much stronger. Sazhin believes his team's technique would be precise enough to distinguish the Milky Way from Andromeda, even if they were as far away as CSL-1, but admits more work needs to be done to demonstrate this.

If a string is producing the twin galaxy images, the edges of the images should be extremely sharp, but our turbulent atmosphere prevents telescopes on Earth from detecting this. Now Sazhin has been granted turbulence-free observation time on the Hubble Space Telescope. "The resolution of the HST will allow us to detect the specific signature produced by the cosmic string," he says. "We hope it will reduce the scepticism of other astronomers."





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« Reply #156 on: October 31, 2005, 09:04:09 pm »
The first evidence for string theory?

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg18424781.400

18 December 2004
Marcus Chown
Magazine issue 2478
A double view of galaxies and a quirky quasar leads astronomers to think they have spotted a thread of pure energy streaking through our galaxy
IF YOU consider them separately, these two observations are hardly going to set the scientific world on fire. But together they add up to a spectacular possibility. In a tiny region of sky, astronomers have seen a dozen galaxies that appear as a curious sequence of double images. They have also observed a quasar whose brightness oscillates in an unexpected way. What could cause these odd phenomena? The only explanation that covers both is pretty mind-bending: "superstrings" of pure energy that can stretch millions of light years across the universe. Is this the first experimental evidence for string theory?

The theory is our best hope of understanding how the universe works at its most fundamental level. It suggests that the basic constituents of matter are impossibly narrow threads of concentrated energy. The various different ways these superstrings can vibrate correspond to different fundamental particles, such as the up-quark and the ...

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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #157 on: October 31, 2005, 09:10:21 pm »
Finding the Ultimate Theory of Everything

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Could two lookalike galaxies, barely a whisker apart in the night sky, herald a revolution in our understanding of fundamental physics? Some physicists believe that the two galaxies are the same - its image has been split into two, they maintain, by a "cosmic string"; a San Andreas Fault in the very fabric of space and time.

If this interpretation is correct, then CSL-1 - the name of the curious double galaxy - is the first concrete evidence for "superstring theory": the best candidate for a "theory of everything", which attempts to encapsulate all the phenomena of nature in one neat set of equations.

Superstring theory views the fundamental building blocks of all matter - the electrons and quarks that make up the atoms in our bodies - as ultra- tiny pieces of vibrating "string". And, just as different vibrations of a violin string correspond to different musical notes, different vibrations of this fundamental string correspond to different fundamental particles.

The problem with string theory is that the strings are fantastically smaller than atoms and, therefore, impossible to detect in any conceivable laboratory experiment. But recently, physicists realised that the extreme conditions that existed in the early universe could have spawned enormously big strings. It is one of these "cosmic superstrings" that some believe is passing between the Earth and CSL- 1, and, in the process, creating the curious double image of the galaxy.

The realisation that big strings are possible has come from exploring the most esoteric implications of the theory. For instance, the only way strings can vibrate in enough different ways to mimic all the known fundamental particles is if the strings vibrate in a space-time of 10 dimensions.

Since we appear to live in a universe with a mere four dimensions - three of space and one of time - string theorists have been forced to postulate the existence of six extra space dimensions "rolled up" so small we have overlooked them.

The existence of the extra dimensions opens up the possibility of more complex objects. In addition to strings, which extend in only one dimension, it is possible to have objects with two, three or more dimensions. These are dubbed branes, or p-branes, where the "p" denotes the number of their dimensions.

This has raised the possibility that our universe is a three- brane - a three- dimensional "island", adrift in a 10-dimensional space. And, if it is, it may not be alone. Some have suggested that the big bang was caused when another brane collided with our own 13.7 billion years ago (See "Highly strung", The Independent, 7 July 2004).

Crucially, a collision between branes creates strings - both within each brane and as a kind of spaghetti connecting the branes. And these can be stretched to cosmic dimensions to make cosmic superstrings. "Cosmic strings turn out to be pretty much inevitable in the brane scenario," says Tom Kibble of Imperial College in London.

Cosmic superstrings would be under enormous tension, like a geological fault in the Earth's crust. But, being free to move, they would attempt to relieve the tension by lashing about through space at almost the speed of light. But their most interesting property is the effect they have on their surroundings. "A string distorts the space around it in a very distinctive way," says Kibble.

One way to visualise this is to imagine a string coming up through this page. Imagine cutting from the paper a narrow triangle whose tip is at the string, then gluing the paper back together again. The result will be a shallow cone centred on the string.

Because of this distortion of space, if a string passes between us and a distant galaxy - a giant collection of stars like our Milky Way - the light of the galaxy can come to Earth along two possible routes: one on either side of the string. Consequently, there will be two identical images of the galaxy only a whisker apart - which is exactly what is seen in the case of CSL-1.

CSL-1 was discovered by a team led by Mikhail Sazhin of Capodimonte Astronomical Observatory in Naples and the Sternberg Astronomical Institute in Moscow. They christened it Capodimonte- Sternberg Lens Candidate 1, which is where the CSL-1 comes from. "It looks like the signature of a string to me," says Kibble. "However, it is always possible we are seeing two galaxies that just happen to look surprisingly similar." This is the view of the sceptics. "CSL- 1 is most likely just a pair of galaxies that happened to be close together on the sky," says Abraham Loeb of the Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics. "We know of many close pairs of galaxies in the local universe, including our own Milky Way and Andromeda." But others are keeping their fingers crossed that Loeb is wrong. "I am hoping nature won't have played such a trick on us," says Tanmay Vachaspati of Case Western Reserve University in Ohio.

If CSL-1 was the only piece of evidence for a cosmic superstring it might be easy to brush it under the carpet. But it isn't. There is the "double quasar" Q0957+561A,B. Discovered at Jodrell Bank near Manchester in 1979, the two images of a super-bright galaxy, or quasar, are formed by a galaxy lying between the quasar and the Earth.

The gravity of the intervening galaxy bends the light of the quasar so that it follows two distinct paths to Earth, creating two images of unequal brightness. Crucially, the two light paths are of different lengths and so the light takes a different time to travel along each. In fact, astronomers find that when one image brightens, the other image brightens 417.1 days later.

But this is not what has been found by a team of astronomers from the US and the Ukraine, led by Rudolph Schild of the Harvard- Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics. When they studied the two images, they noticed that, between September 1994 and July 1995, the two images brightened and faded at the same time - with no time delay The two images did this four times, on each occasion for a period of about 100 days.

The only way Schild and his colleagues can make sense of this behaviour is if, between September 1994 and July 1995, something moved across our line of sight to the quasar, simultaneously affecting the light coming down both paths to the Earth. The only thing that fits the bill, they claim, is a vibrating loop of cosmic string moving across the line of sight at about 70 per cent of the speed of light.

To oscillate once every 100 days or so, the loop has to be very small - no bigger than 1 per cent of the distance between the Sun and the nearest star. And Schild and his colleagues calculate that the string must be remarkably close to us - well within our Milky Way galaxy.

Most physicists remain sceptical about the evidence for cosmic superstrings. If the case is to be strengthened, it will be necessary to find more candidates like CSL-1 and Q0957+561A,B. Alternatively, it will be necessary to detect the "gravitational waves" coming from a string. These are ripples in the fabric of space, much like the ripples which spread out on a pond from an impacting raindrop.

Strings are travelling very fast. If they get a kink in them, it is possible for this part of the string to crack like a whip. The part producing the crack travels at almost the speed of light and should produce an intense burst of gravitational waves. As first pointed out by Thibault Damour of the Institut des Hautes etudes Scientifiques in Paris and Alex Vilenkin of Tufts Institute of Cosmology in the US, such signals could be detected in the next few years by Europe's Virgo detector or America's Laser Interferometric Gravitational-Wave Observatory.

String theory has long been criticised as that which makes no observable predictions about the universe we live in. If the discovery of cosmic superstrings holds up, the theory may finally have connected with reality and the critics may at last be silenced.

Marcus Chown is the author of `The Universe Next Door'

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Re: Van Den Broek's alcubierre metric variant warp space configuration
« Reply #159 on: November 01, 2005, 04:25:48 am »
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"Most physicists remain sceptical about the evidence for cosmic superstrings. If the case is to be strengthened, it will be necessary to find more candidates like CSL-1 and Q0957+561A,B. Alternatively, it will be necessary to detect the "gravitational waves" coming from a string. These are ripples in the fabric of space, much like the ripples which spread out on a pond from an impacting raindrop"

I concur with this...  Until the case is strenghtened I would be inclined to stick with the standard model, a proven theory that has been resistant to all and every attempt to falsify it and thats predictions have been so remarkably accurate it would be reckless to abandon it...


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