Topic: Wild Geese Report in!

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Chuut! Chuuut! You can't do that, I'm the rookie!

Thats exactly why I can do that 

[GDA-Agave]

Making a new forum is a good idea, and it was also the idea that gets Risky appointed as Wild Geese leader

<All other geese take two  steps  backwards leaving Risky exposed in the front>

Congratz Risky!   

I ABSOLUTELY SECOND THAT IDEA!!

[Riskyllama]

well..um you can't do that.  I'm not the boss of you!

[Dfly]

OK THEN,  I SECOND THAT, and you would be the boss of me  hmm

PS, I will help if needed.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

well..um you can't do that.  I'm not the boss of you!

I said leader not boss you twit.  That means you lead and if its safe we will follow, if not we will drink a beer to your memory. 

[Soreyes]

I think that I'll just let Dfly and Risky take the lead. Ill just sit behind this asteroid and drink some Scotch

[Dizzy]

Coalition Wild Geese, flip to the Alliance side at 8:00pm tonight, they are losing by more than 15 original space hexes. Ask for access to the Alliance forums from Hexx or Braxton.

[ShadowLord]

You sure?
What about the risk of Avian Bird Flu

[FPF-DieHard]

You sure?
What about the risk of Avian Bird Flu

I've stopped frucking chickens weeks ago 

[el-Karnak]

well..um you can't do that.  I'm not the boss of you!

I said leader not boss you twit.  That means you lead and if its safe we will follow, if not we will drink a beer to your memory. 

*Karnak stomps madly on the bridge*

 

I'm the Boss!! I want to be the Boss!! I am the power-mad Frog here!!

Messa el Presidente!!  Viva Desa Froggie Karnak!!




















What am I am wanting to be the Boss of anyway???  

[KBFLordKrueg]

Coalition Wild Geese, flip to the Alliance side at 8:00pm tonight, they are losing by more than 15 original space hexes. Ask for access to the Alliance forums from Hexx or Braxton.

WHAT?!?!
Are you out of your Frackkin MIND, Diz....?
Hexxes, my A$$!!
How many Map VCs have we gained...NONE
How many can we gain if we hold all we do now..? ONE...Two if we take something else...
The Coalition is losing in score by over 35 VPs...and you want Coalition Pilots to switch sides...?!?!
On SGO 4 I remember a similiar call for Alliance pilots to switch sides...the response was "No way am I switching sides while my side is losing"
Remember that...?
When the Alliance is actually NOT in the lead in overall score, THEN call the wild gees out...

As it stands now, the Coalition will have to pull a rabbit out of it's a$$ to come close to winning this server...
And you want four of my best pilots to switch?...unbelievable...

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

You sure?
What about the risk of Avian Bird Flu

I've stopped frucking chickens weeks ago 

how are the sheep doing? 

[KBF-Kurok]

What Kreug said!!!

[Dizzy]

Are you out of your Frackkin MIND, Diz....?

On occasion...

How many can we gain if we hold all we do now..? ONE...Two if we take something else...
The Coalition is losing in score by over 30 VPs...and you want Coalition Pilots to switch sides...?!?!

It doesnt concern me how many VC points a side has earned. The rule was written to prevent a server blowout based on hex occupation. The quality of a sides captains and their pvp tally has nothing to do with it.

On SGO 4 I remember a similiar call for Alliance pilots to switch sides...the response was "No way am I switching sides while my side is losing"
Remember that...?

It was a server blowout for the Alliance... WG were volunteers with no rules to back their use. I learned from that mistake. These players this server are bound by the rules now, and I have no control over how they are deployed other than hopw the rule was written.

When the Alliance is actually NOT in the lead in overall score, THEN call the wild geese out...

The WG rules arnt written to take into account who has won VC's, only the number of hexes. Plan your strategy accordingly.

As it stands now, the Coalition will have to pull a rabbit out of it's a$$ to come close to winning this server...
And you want four of my nutter pilots to switch...unbelievable...

I dont want your nutter pilots to switch, the rules dictate that. But no one has any points and your team is in the lead by total enemy hexes controlled. Which brings me to this... The WG switch tonight at 8pm IF the Coalition hold 15 or more enemy original hexes than do the Alliance minus theirs... When I made the post this morning, the count was 21 hexes. Now it has been slashed to 14. I'll do a more accurate count at 8pm central. So possibly I spoke too soon thinking the Alliance wouldnt catch up the way they did  

Krueg, a personal comment from me to you... Stop typing and play more... Every paragraph you type is a DV lost...

[KBFLordKrueg]

But no one has any points and your team is in the lead by total enemy hexes controlled. Which brings me to this... The WG switch tonight at 8pm IF the Coalition hold 15 or more enemy original hexes than do the Alliance minus theirs... When I made the post this morning, the count was 21 hexes. Now it has been slashed to 14. I'll do a more accurate count at 8pm central. So possibly I spoke too soon thinking the Alliance wouldn't catch up the way they did  

Krueg, a personal comment from me to you... Stop typing and play more... Every paragraph you type is a DV lost...

So...NO ONE has ANY Points...NONE..that will count toward the End of Campaign Victory Points...?
The 37 VPs in PvP the Coalition trails by will NOT count toward TOTAL score to decide the Victor?

IF that is truly the case, then I will apologize for my outburst, the way the rules read, it looks like they WILL count.

With  ONE Map VC being only earned if one side takes TWO planets, from different races, I don't see how owning 15, or even 21 hexes is going make ANY difference in the Total score the way it is now (assuming PvP VP count toward Total score)  It's basically just giving pilots a goal to work for and territory to fight over.

And quite frankly, as rapidly as the hexes in the main battle area have flipped colors, the Wild Geese will be constantly switching sides from day to day.


And, as far as your "personal note"...
I come home from work, grab a beer, check the map, check the forums, update posts, THEN eat and take a shower and spend the rest of the night on the server until I force myself to go to bed because I have to get up at 6 am. (My wife and kids just LOVE that  )...I've done that every day since the server started...Weekends, I'm on from the time I get out of bed until I go back to bed in the wee hours...so...
STFU    <---obligatory smiley

[762_XC]

He has a point Diz, those 5 DV hexes are a little silly.

Can't you go by total missions run or something?

  <---constructive criticism smiley

[FPF-DieHard]

He has a point Diz, those 5 DV hexes are a little silly.

Can't you go by total missions run or something?

  <---constructive criticism smiley

If Dark Elf were around we could, anyone else know how to determine this?

[ShadowLord]

I was waiting for LK and diz to make more postings before I jumped in here..

While I understand diz reasoning for having WG in play (to prevent blow outs) I dont see any blow out taking place at this time-- there is usually lots of players from BOTH sides online. Yes the coalition has started playing more often because were all trying to catch up from some nasty ship loss situations and one of the best ways to feel better abouts loosing ships is to kill one of yours.

That beings said -- I don't know what to do here --
You really going to make me feel a bit like a traitor either way on this-- If I dont switch to the alliance then well I sort of loose my own sense of honour on this issue. If I do switch well then I feel I am letting the guys I have flown with for the last two weeks down because were behind on the ship kills.
Had the coaliton been up in both hexes and ship kills I could see why you would call ALL 4 geese into play -- but well like I said its a no win situation for me right now and I know rogue will feel the same way -- chances are risky and dfly feel they are stuck between a rock and hard place as well..

I would like to hear from players on both sides without this becoming a flame war.

[Dizzy]

IF that is truly the case, then I will apologize for my outburst, the way the rules read, it looks like they WILL count.

Im not sure I follow u. PvP 'points' are made by killing your oppoenents. 3 for a BC, 6 for a DN, etc. If one side has 1.5x as many pvp points as the other side in any VC round, they get one Planet equivalent hex to count toward VC's for that round and the race it counts for is determined by which race suffered the most losses in pvp points.

So according to the rules, you have to have 2 planets from disimilar races to equal a VC point. So if you managed to get 1.5x as many kills as your opponents and the race that suffered the greatest pvp points losses were from race 'x' then you need to pair it with another planet from race 'y' for it to count as ONE VC point. So far, no one from either side has scored any VC's.

Speculation example: Lets say the Alliance totally trashes you guys in pvp and makes you all look like a buncha monkeys and makes 1.5 times as many pvp points as you for this last round, in order for them to score a VC point, they have to match the race that suffered the most pvp point losses on the coalition side to a disimilar coalition race's planet or perm base for it to count... So if you deny them that, then all those extra pvp points are for naught. Course, if there are 2x as many pvp points, that side would get 2x planet equivalent hexes and they come from the 1st and 2nd most races with the highest pvp point losses... That alone would count as one VC.

And quite frankly, as rapidly as the hexes in the main battle area have flipped colors, the Wild Geese will be constantly switching sides from day to day.

The fact that they haven't so far indicates the server is fairly well balanced... You made a good point in your post to think about... Lets say the hex ownership for side A is beyond 15 hexes more than side B, should we take away the geese from side A and transfer them to side B to make up for it even if side A is losing in VC points? Hrmmmm. Definitely something to think about there...

And, as far as your "persoanl note"...
I come home from work, grab a beer, check the map, check the forums, update posts, THEN eat and take a shower and spend the rest of the night on the server until I force myself to go to bed because I have to get up at 6 am. (My wife and kids just LOVE that  )...I've done that evey day since the server started...Weekends, I'm on from the time I get out of bed until I go back to bed in the wee hours...so...
STFU    <---obligatory smiley

lol. Mine too.

[Hexx]

As alliance RM (until Brax gets back...) I'd oppose such a move

The Coalition has overcome their complete and utter ineptitude in PVP to hustle and beat us back in hexes

I want to beat the players that have flown with the Coalition from the start, not have my victory tainted by
some of them switching sides.