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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2005, 11:34:42 pm »
Jualdeaux pretty much nailed it on the head.  The only thing I would add is that if you do go with a 1911 style handgun Kimber makes a .22 adapter for their handguns.  I don't know how well they hold up so I would ask around before buying but if they do work it would be better than getting a gun for each cal.  From my experience this would also help since you wouldn't have to learn the feel of two different guns.  Hope this helps.

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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2005, 01:17:20 am »
Beretta 92fs

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I know it propably aint the best out there but since I like it maybe you oughta try it too  ;D
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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2005, 07:13:37 am »
.357 snub nose because, as mentioned, you can fire .38's out of it. I don't know about where you live, but around here they don't like us using .357's at the range because they are god awful loud. I only get to use the .357's (for practice anyway  ;)) out in the wilderness when I go camping. Its a simple, acurate gun with decent power and not too much kick. At least I think so. The shorter barrel makes it easy to wield.

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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2005, 10:04:19 am »
For the inexperienced at home defense.. I recommend this:

Smith & Wesson 640 5 shot Hammerless .357

All the aforementioned reasons to use a revolver PLUS no hammer to catch on anything.
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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2005, 10:18:51 am »
Also, through the use of speed loaders, you can reload a revolver nearly as quickly as an automatic.  Basically, you pop the cylinder, let the spent casings fall out, put this device into the cylinder, twist the knob to release the rounds, and close the cylinder.  Only takes a couple of seconds if you practice.




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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2005, 10:41:55 am »
Thanks guys.

Home defense really isn't much of a concern.  And odds are I'd grab the shotgun first anyways.

For fun on the range . . .  I've talked to other people also.   Now I'm thinking of getting a .22 pistol  (MUCH cheaper ammo) and getting used to a pistol and then getting a nice Colt 1911 with some history to it in a year or so.  Maybe a 9mm later on.  Not sure.

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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2005, 10:57:41 am »
a .22 is a good choice. i personnaly have a S&W .22 automatic and i love it for the range. ammo is cheap (500 rounds for less than $20) and accurate as hell! i have a clip of hollow points as a "just-in-case" clip for home defense. while it ain't much, i can put a round neatly between the eyes very easily. i also figure that it looks like a handgun and most home-invaders aren't going to take the time to look at the caliber while i am shootin' at their ass!

hope this helps

oh one other thing, if it is for the range and you decide on a .22, get as long a barrel as you can for more accuracy.
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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2005, 11:21:36 am »
Good point Stoney.  And there is a rule-of-thumb for handguns:

They look 4 calibers larger from the front than from the back end.   ;D
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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2005, 01:25:03 pm »
Well now my brain hurts.    Just came back from the gun store. . . . .

They had a used .22 S&W for . . . .   $750.00 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Ugh.

So the sales guy showed me a Ruger .22 semi-auto pistol.  New for $375.00.   Looks perfect for a starter target gun to me and the bullets work for my .22 rifle also.  I think I'll get it but I'm going to think about it for a few more days.



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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2005, 01:46:55 pm »
yeah, the Ruger Mark IIs and Mark IIIs are great guns fromwhat I understand and will last forever. One thing I would suggest is to look at a couple intrnet auction sites for general pricing on whatever gun you are thinking of getting. Two that are good are

http://www.gunbroker.com/

and

http://www.auctionarms.com/

Oh, and a third.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/

The Gun Broker site is pretty much just like ebay so it is really easy to navigate. Look for autions that have bids and see what people are paying for whatever gun you are looking for. That should help get a price range so when you go kicking tires at your local store you will have a good idea if they are asking what they should.
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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2005, 03:40:31 pm »
Wow... Jualdeux has just about said it all, I guess.

As a latecomer in the discussion I'll only add a couple of cents worth, J'inn:"

The MkII is as fine a .22 pistol as you'll ever find. A gun don't have to be expensive to be a fine weapon. One of my best (and another good all-arounder, if you feel the need for one) is a Rossi .357 Mag with a 4" barrell.

A .357 Mag is another really great starter gun... for a bigger fellow. It can fire .38 Special ammunition (which is a lot cheaper- nearly on par with 9mm) and has FAR less felt recoil than the .357 Mag rounds; the versitility to fit into both the 'shoot it all day long gun' and the 'one shot, one kill' gun niches make it a good purchase for a grown man looking for a 'do it all' gun.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=37982078

This little jewel usually comes in at $350 new, and this one on gunbroker.com has a no reserve auction running on it with no current bids. Keep an eye on it if you're interested to get an idea of where the prices are going.

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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2005, 03:54:48 pm »
damnit, must admit that with all of you speaking of guns makes me quite a bit jealous since i live in a country where EVERY automatic weapons is outlawed....
(although it does have a point, if we had guns we would be killing each other at an ever faster rate than we are now. Since we have no war to fight.)
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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2005, 04:16:55 pm »
damnit, must admit that with all of you speaking of guns makes me quite a bit jealous since i live in a country where EVERY automatic weapons is outlawed....
(although it does have a point, if we had guns we would be killing each other at an ever faster rate than we are now. Since we have no war to fight.)

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seriously, I love shooting, and Do so on a regular basis. I think my Biggest Thrill though was my last Birthday. Frey came down To assist in the Celebrations, and StormBringer and I where The first to Intoduce him to Shooting. I can definatly understand J'inn's Joy of Skeet shooting, as Years ago, I used to be able to Plink an asprin out of the air with an open sighted .22. Mind you that was years ago, But Shooting and Oklahahoma go hand in hand.

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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2005, 04:23:51 pm »
Well yes and no, the rites of hunt are still good enough of a reason to kill innocent animals. good food :P
(yes i do admit that I illegally own automatic weapons, this is a "multicultural" town  so i believe that i have a fairly good reason. We need to defend ourselves.)
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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2005, 08:01:21 pm »
Well now my brain hurts.    Just came back from the gun store. . . . .

They had a used .22 S&W for . . . .   $750.00 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Ugh.

So the sales guy showed me a Ruger .22 semi-auto pistol.  New for $375.00.   Looks perfect for a starter target gun to me and the bullets work for my .22 rifle also.  I think I'll get it but I'm going to think about it for a few more days.





Is that 22 S&W a Performance Center gun? If so it is more than worth it. As for the 1911, if it is a GI gun of some sort, that also is an excellent price and should not be missed if possible.



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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2005, 08:08:52 pm »
Well yes and no, the rites of hunt are still good enough of a reason to kill innocent animals. good food :P
(yes i do admit that I illegally own automatic weapons, this is a "multicultural" town  so i believe that i have a fairly good reason. We need to defend ourselves.)

Mackie, do you mean full auto or semi?



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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2005, 08:26:45 pm »
Here is a fine S&W Performance Center 22 that was built on an old  square butt stainless (new) 617 frame. It has a 6'  barrel left over from the German Olympic team order and a 10 shot cylinder. This was custom built for my wife by the Performance Center and is a one of a kind.  I would highly reccomend this gun for any kind of recreational target shooting.



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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2005, 09:36:01 pm »
Here is a fine S&W Performance Center 22 that was built on an old  square butt stainless (new) 617 frame. It has a 6'  barrel left over from the German Olympic team order and a 10 shot cylinder. This was custom built for my wife by the Performance Center and is a one of a kind.  I would highly reccomend this gun for any kind of recreational target shooting.

that is one sweet piece!!!
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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2005, 11:52:48 pm »
Hey J'inn-

I remember a lawyer that packed heat- did you ever see the black and white film with Bogart as "The DA"?  He popped the perp at the end... very coolly and with style, I might add.  Bogie.  What a great actor.  (Are you as good in court?  ;)  )

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Re: A question for the gun owners
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2005, 05:21:21 am »
Good discussion going on here.  When I get back to the States I'm going to be in the market for a carry gun, lots of things to keep in mind here.  I'm sure Jualdeau will keep trying to steer me towards those 9mm Glocks he is so fond of.  lol 

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