Topic: t00l's (way better than Hexx's) racial PvP poll

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

1- Fed
    Hydran
2- Klingon (at least according to DH)
3- Lyran
4- Mirak
5- ISC
   Gorn
   Rom

[FPF-DieHard]

Fed
ISC
Hydran
Rom
Mirak
Klingon
Gorn
Lyran

[Hexx]

I'm begining to think no one's going to show up for LCW..

buncha useless gits.

Yah turn the ESG on and smack people with it
What's so hard?

[SkyFlyer]

1. Fed (How I love thee)
2. ISC (need to play it more)
3. Mirak (missles o joy)
4. Klink (missles o joy)
5.Gorn (plasma)
6. Lyran (need to practice my ramming)
7. Rom (need to practice my cloak)
8. Hydran (once my fighters are gone, so am I).

[762_XC]

Average rankings after 16 posts:

Feds - 3.69
ISC - 3.75
Klingon - 4.13
Mirak - 4.44
Rom - 4.44
Hydran - 4.88
Lyran - 5.19
Gorn - 5.50

What I found most interesting is that almost everyone picked Lyran as either their first or last.

[KBF-Soth]

That's becuz you either luv em or not

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

What I found most interesting is that almost everyone picked Lyran as either their first or last.

Great ships, but rely heavily on pilot skills 

[el-Karnak]

I do not PvP as much as I should but here's my list:

Best to Worst

I have BBQed people with these ships category:
I-S-C
Klingon
Hydran
Fed

I am pretty sure that I can BBQ somebody with these ships category:
Lyran

I am just winging it Category
Mirak

No Idea/completely clueless Category
Rom
Gorn


Cannot really comment on Rom and Gorns cuz I don't fly them enough. In fact, I don't think I have ever flown Gorn on any dyna ever. 

I really don't know what I am doing with Mirak ships. I tend to fly them like a Klingon would and the durn thing can't turn fast enough.

[FPF-DieHard]

I really don't know what I am doing with Mirak ships. I tend to fly them like a Klingon would and the durn thing can't turn fast enough.

Mirak and Klink ships need to be flow different.   Though they have the same weapons, they are very different

[FA Frey XC]

Fed <---My best race
Hydran
ISC
Gorn
Klingon
Lyran
Mirak
Rom <---My worst race

[Matsukasi]

I really don't know what I am doing with Mirak ships. I tend to fly them like a Klingon would and the durn thing can't turn fast enough.

Mirak and Klink ships need to be flow different.   Though they have the same weapons, they are very different

To further complicate things from a Mirak perspective, within the Mirak community itself there are 2 polar opposite pvp approaches.

Those who use drones as actual weapons to damage the opponent.
Those who use drones to manipulate the opponent into doing what you want them to do.

There are just enough racks on most ships to use either approach really. It's been so cool over the years watching the same ships used so radically different by my friends. Some races have pretty set standard attack procedures, but I'm sure some other race guys can identify with what I'm talking about.

[Dizzy]

Those who use drones as actual weapons to damage the opponent.
Those who use drones to manipulate the opponent into doing what you want them to do.

U forgot one: Those who use both.

[Matsukasi]

U forgot one: Those who use both.

Yeah yeah yeah..... Hey, you finish that Mav/Diz vs me story yet or what? Only been like.... 3 years or something. Get on the ball, slacker.

[SkyFlyer]

What I found most interesting is that almost everyone picked Lyran as either their first or last.

Not me you n00b.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Those who use drones as actual weapons to damage the opponent.
Those who use drones to manipulate the opponent into doing what you want them to do.

U forgot one: Those who use both.

There is no such creature, its a total fction 

[762_XC]

The simple fact is no matter how much you may want to use drones to hurt someone, against an experienced opponent it's not going to happen unless they allow it to. I really don't see them as seperate strategies but one and the same. How the Mirak's opponent handles the drones determine which strategy is being used.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Actually while t00l is correct to a degree, as tactics change depending on the enemy actions, the type of drones carried and how they are initially used usually does revolve around the pilot,s style. If the pilot is hoping for a crushing drone strike he will likely be carrying type 4s, if he wants to use them as a movement constraint he will likely be carrying type 1s.  The same applys to the types of fighters he carries.  After the mission starts and intial phases of combat have occurred, however, the Kzin pilot usually has to base his actions on the enemy's responses.

[Corbomite]

Well t00l already knows the answer to this, but I'll help out with his survey anyway.


1) ISC

2) ISC

3) ISC

4) ISC

5) ISC

6) ISC

7) ISC

8 ) ISC


And my best Pirate races (just to be thorough)

9) ISC

10) ISC

11) ISC

12) ISC

13) ISC

14) ISC

15) ISC

16) ISC


And if we ever add the Andros and Tholians

17) ISC

18) ISC


Hope this helps!

[GDA-S'Cipio]

1.) Gorn
2.) Romulan
3.) Mirak Kzinti
4.) Klingon
5.) Federation
6.) Hydran
7.) ISC
8.) Lyran

A lot of this is practice.  I'm certain that the order would change if I flew some of the races near the bottom more often on the D2.  I think that intrinsically the ISC and the Lyrans should be near the top, but I tend to use ISC torps too offensively and I don't manage my Lyran power curve tightly enough so I end up getting caught on little mistakes with both of them.

-S'Cipio

[Soreyes]

1.) KZINTI   Drones away
2.) ISC    I love the sound of a PPD hitting a bare hull
3.) KLINGON   Fast and Fun
4.) Romulan   Fast and Brittle
5.) Gorn   Slow and Tuff
6.) Lyran   I have a hell of a time with the power management
7.) Fed   Watch your torps fly off into deep space