Topic: Elevators & Temporalness  (Read 4160 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Elevators & Temporalness
« on: September 22, 2005, 02:08:38 pm »
What the bejesus (when was the last time you heard that eh? -my word for the day)
is a "Temporal Elevator"? ((and by what is I mean what the heck does it do?)

As i continue my foray into creating the ultimate Andro Invasion server (while not actually haveing or
even having glimpsed at the Andro book) I think I might need to know

Also- is there an actual background fluf description of the Invasion years? I (kinda) remember reading one on
Operation Unity, but is there anything written about hte LDR's destruction for example?
Why they hit it? Or is it just the well written 'then the Andros destoyed the LDR"
There's a blurb in J2 abotu "one of the last ships to emerge from the LDR docks in those dark days" but
that's about it..
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

Offline Dizzy

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6179
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2005, 02:10:32 pm »
It is so complicated I couldnt ever begin to describe it. But it is so textbook, pen and paper intensive, its right up your alley.  ;D

Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2005, 02:11:48 pm »
It is so complicated I couldnt ever begin to describe it. But it is so textbook, pen and paper intensive, its right up your alley.  ;D

In otherwords you got killed by one ~so I should assume it's an exploit?  :P
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2005, 02:19:05 pm »
Oh -and another question- is there anyway to set up "secret" bases?

I know Bonk (by accident I think) managed to set up a planet/resupply point
for the Klinks that showed nothing in the hex,
A) would this be repeatable?
b) Could you do it with a pirate layer over the Empire layer?
ie (and i assume it's not but..) is it possible to set up say a "secret" Klingon base in fed space
The empire hex would have to be Fed of course- but is there anyway to make it so a Klink ship could resupply there?
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

Offline KBF-Crim

  • 1st Deacon ,Church of Taldren
  • Global Moderator
  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 12271
  • Gender: Male
  • Crim,son of Rus'l
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2005, 02:20:23 pm »
It is so complicated I couldnt ever begin to describe it. But it is so textbook, pen and paper intensive, its right up your alley.  ;D

In otherwords you got killed by one ~so I should assume it's an exploit?  :P

OOF!

 :rofl:

Offline Dizzy

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6179
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2005, 02:20:44 pm »
I bought the module... It looks so... paper intensive... Uses fractional power.... its an impulse by impluse addition and subtraction thingy... I dunno how you could possibly keep the flow of an SFB match going using it.

Its better to PBE on that one. ;)

G/L! Oh, and there isnt anything in SFC or a script make up that I think could approximate it. Those SFB guys went out of their way on this one.

Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2005, 02:22:46 pm »
I bought the module... It looks so... paper intensive... Uses fractional power.... its an impulse by impluse addition and subrtraction thingy... I dunno how you could possibly keep the flow of an SFB match going using it.

Its better to PBE on that one. ;)

G/L! Oh, and there isnt anything in SFC or a script make up that I think could approximate it. Those SFB guys went out of their way on this one.

Ah cool thanks,
from teh (very few) descriptions I have of it I had assumed it was some kind of base-movement/ecm thing.
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

Offline FPF-DieHard

  • DDO Junkie
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 9461
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2005, 02:23:07 pm »
Who'd thunk that Star-castling was the root of all evil . . .


Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2005, 02:24:14 pm »
Google is your friend

http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/sfin/MRB_Update_B.pdf


Actually I just pay her for the sex..

EDIT Why does my head always hurt after trying to decipher SFB rules?
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

762_XC

  • Guest
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2005, 02:50:23 pm »
OMG, did you guys see this?

http://www.starfleetgames.com/fc/

SFB Lite

Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2005, 02:52:43 pm »
"A crafty Klingon"
<snicker>

I'm sure there's also a "handsome Gorn"
"Sanitary Kzin"
'Straight Fed"
"confident Hydran"
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

Offline FPF-DieHard

  • DDO Junkie
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 9461
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2005, 02:53:54 pm »
"A crafty Klingon"
<snicker>

I'm sure there's also a "handsome Gorn"
"Sanitary Kzin"
'Straight Fed"
"confident Hydran"


"A tall Lyran" :P
Who'd thunk that Star-castling was the root of all evil . . .


Offline GDA-S'Cipio

  • Brucimus Maximus
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5749
  • Gender: Male
  • If I took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy.
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2005, 02:57:10 pm »
In another thread, I suggested giving Andro bases the cloak instead of the temporal elevator.  I think that is about as close as you can come in SFC.

Basically, it's a time rift that the bases could create around themselves that made seeking weapons take longer to reach the base.  The bases moved themselves further away from you in time rather than in position.  The weapons would take several impulses to cross that last hex rather than just one, and plasmas would thus run themselves out without going anywhere.   Only, the rules make it a lot more complicated than that.  Those Andros were weird.

-S'Cipio
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."  - James Madison (chief author of the Constitution)

-----------------------------------------
Gorn Dragon Alliance member
Gorn Dragon Templar
Coulda' used a little more cowbell
-----------------------------------------


Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2005, 02:59:32 pm »
In another thread, I suggested giving Andro bases the cloak instead of the temporal elevator.  I think that is about as close as you can come in SFC.

Basically, it's a time rift that the bases could create around themselves that made seeking weapons take longer to reach the base.  The bases moved themselves further away from you in time rather than in position.  The weapons would take several impulses to cross that last hex rather than just one, and plasmas would thus run themselves out without going anywhere.   Only, the rules make it a lot more complicated than that.  Those Andros were weird.

-S'Cipio

Sooo tehy could travel to other galaxies, and move stuff back and forth in time, but couldn't build a decent phaser..
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

Offline GDA-S'Cipio

  • Brucimus Maximus
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5749
  • Gender: Male
  • If I took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy.
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2005, 03:06:53 pm »
Sooo tehy could travel to other galaxies, and move stuff back and forth in time, but couldn't build a decent phaser..

Or a simple shuttle.

Just think of all the physics and research that must have gone into building the Temoral Elevator, all of which would not have needed adding to the game if the Andros had been able to launch a simiple Wild Weasel.  These aliens were so smart they were stupid!

(Actually, the background material says they didn't have "phasers" at all, it's just that the beam weapon they did use had the same effect as the phaser 2.  Imagine the effect of those TR beams when they upgrade their beam weapon taragetting sensors to phaser 1 levels!)


-S'Cipio
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."  - James Madison (chief author of the Constitution)

-----------------------------------------
Gorn Dragon Alliance member
Gorn Dragon Templar
Coulda' used a little more cowbell
-----------------------------------------


Offline GDA-S'Cipio

  • Brucimus Maximus
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 5749
  • Gender: Male
  • If I took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy.
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2005, 03:10:36 pm »
"A crafty Klingon"
<snicker>

I'm sure there's also a "handsome Gorn"

<blush>

You are too kind.

-S'Cipio
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."  - James Madison (chief author of the Constitution)

-----------------------------------------
Gorn Dragon Alliance member
Gorn Dragon Templar
Coulda' used a little more cowbell
-----------------------------------------


Offline KAT Chuut-Ritt

  • Vice Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 26163
  • Gender: Male
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2005, 04:46:56 pm »

Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2005, 04:56:11 pm »
OMG, did you guys see this?

http://www.starfleetgames.com/fc/

SFB Lite


Actually- previous shots aside- it looks like a pretty cool game
Ill have to see if I can track down some of the Minis used.
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

762_XC

  • Guest
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2005, 05:10:12 pm »
Found this here

PERVERSIONS (Photon Extended Range Very Effective Revised System Installed On New Ships)

 :rofl:

Offline FPF-DieHard

  • DDO Junkie
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 9461
Re: Elevators & Temporalness
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2005, 05:13:35 pm »
Found this here

PERVERSIONS (Photon Extended Range Very Effective Revised System Installed On New Ships)

 :rofl:


My secret is out . . .
Who'd thunk that Star-castling was the root of all evil . . .