Topic: Slave Girls V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!

[FPF-DieHard]

If we have any ideas on numbers for the two sides yet that would be help in determining which side we should fly for.

We won't know until it starts.

[Hexx]

Rulers my patucas.  I'll give you rulers.  They are somewhat red, go very fast, and when they hit your ship they go boom. 

This is a low blow, but I heard the Lyrans are gonna fly red dump trucks Braxton.

I tried to be good but

<snicker>

(sorry Brax , I'm going to hell )

[Dizzy]

Thx, Duck. Start off flying the side of your choice. Figure the player numbers later.

[Corbomite]

Careful Tobin or you will become another victim of the self fulfilling paradigm. 

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

um, so by telling 762 that he's got it better than he suggest, I ensure my defeat? I thought it already was.

[762_XC]

Did I miss something?

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

not sure myself...

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Did I miss something?

Lagavulin for under $85 bucks 

[762_XC]

OMG, I saw it yesterday for $98!!! 

[KBFKrotz]

Bump, and could we get the rules stickied please? 

[Dizzy]

There will be a new thread soon. Not sticky this one.

[Corbomite]

Hey Dizzy do you still want me to go on a rant about the X-ships? Since I'm getting ready to move soon I don't even know if I can play. I have no clue when I'll get my connect back up.

[Dizzy]

You are always welcome to say what u want, Corbo, but I'll sneak a thought out that I am agreeing with DH on 'X points' leaving other capital ship points alone.

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

Hey Dizzy do you still want me to go on a rant about the X-ships? Since I'm getting ready to move soon I don't even know if I can play. I have no clue when I'll get my connect back up.

Do you know that DH has changed the X ships?

First gen only, no Phaser X's or 'heavy' heavy weapons.  A 33% increase in heavy weapons mounts and making ph3's into phaser 1's.

Example:

Designation: F-CLX
BPV: 197
Crew: 39
Marines: 12
Shield 1: 36
Shield 2 & 6: 30
Shield 3 & 5: 30
Shield 4: 30
Total Shields: 186

Movement Cost: 0.67
Turn Mode: C
Total Warp Power: 30
Impulse Power: 4
Aux Power: 4
Total Engine Power: 38
Battery: 9

Transporters: 3
Tractors: 2
Mech Tractors:
Shuttles: 4
Fighters:

6x Photon
2x Missle Rack B
10x Phaser 1

VS.

Designation: F-CLC
BPV: 145
Crew: 39
Marines: 12
Shield 1: 36
Shield 2 & 6: 30
Shield 3 & 5: 24
Shield 4: 24
Total Shields: 168

Movement Cost: 0.67
Turn Mode: C
Total Warp Power: 24
Impulse Power: 4
Aux Power: 4
Total Engine Power: 32
Battery: 3

Transporters: 3
Tractors: 2
Mech Tractors:
Shuttles: 4
Fighters:

4x Photon
2x Missle Rack G
8x Phaser 1
2x Phaser 3

They are damn good ships, but still beatable.

[Corbomite]

Yeah I know all about that Bear. It shouldn't suprise anyone that I don't agree with it.

I wish we would leave them out entirely, but that is , of course, up to the server designer. The YFA thing is a minor annoyance if they are to be included and again up to the designer when to issue and restrict them.

My main beef is with the HW loadouts. IMO the X-Phasers should be left on (leaving PD Phasers as is and not replacing them with X) and the HW suites left in their original configs.

Now it can be argued that the plasma races (except ISC) need the longer ranged plasma to compete with the faster moving, better shielded ships they would be encountering, but if it were me I'd rather have a better DF weapon, i.e. OL Phasers, at my disposal than a bigger torp that can still be WW or out run with moderate skill. Of course the DF races get the better phasers too, but with most DF weapons (with the exception of, I think, HB and Fusions) being in a FA, they at least have to maneuver to get their shot and head towards the plasma ship whereas the plasma ships can lob large plasmas over their shoulders or to the side.

Besides, am I the only one that thinks a CL with two R-Torps is just silly?

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

LOL... as things advance, they get smaller...

And I have never been a Taldren X ship lover, usually when they would come out on a server, I found something else to do.

But these ships are at least reasonable first gen facsimilies.  Not the mega super star destroyers the original Taldren X ships were.

I still don't like X ships, but at least these are bearable and not, IMO, OTT.

[Corbomite]

We're not talking about the X2 ships unless I'm way off here. I'm talking about the OP+/ DH X1 ships. There is really nothing "X" about DH's ships. They are just HDW's on larger hulls. If they are to be an improvment in technology then there should be some advancemet present, like X-Phasers, not just cramming more/larger stuff on a smaller ship. Just my opinion. I don't intend to get in any arguments over this.

[Dizzy]

Np, Corbo, we know how you feel. X points will allow the use of one X ship on at a time in 81 and 82, possibly allowing more after that. But running into one every now and then proves for an interesting fight. And they are fun to fly... and fairly balanced which is tjhe point.

Doing it this way lets us continue the server with some new choices w/o it turning into a cheese fest.

[Corbomite]

Well we're obviously not talking about the same thing, but its your server.

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

Didn't think we were arguing....

And no pure X ships, we are talking (I guess) about X1 ships.

According to what DH has shown me, they are the most reasonable conversions of ships to 1st gen X technology.