Topic: SGO Test Feedback

[Dizzy]

I could alternatively go back to the less secure weay I was doing it before which would allow use of the webmap shiopyard on all accounts.

Why is it less secure? I just see problems cuz I want to create a Dizzy-A, B, C, D, etc account and cant.

You can still use your main account.

Less secure because I will know your character name and can figure out what e-mail you will use much more easliy that I can figure out your forums password. (the old system only used the character name and e-mail)...

Lemme think how I can still use the forums login yet allow the use of multiple accounts... hmmm... yes, I think I can do it, but it will take a little more work, I should be able to get that done and the kills reporting interface by the end of this week I hope...

Cool.

[Hexx]

Krotz's FYA's are correct.   I hadn't changed any from OP+ 4 for the Romulans.

Yeah just found it in the basic rules,
Are we missing any other refits that are important?

I'd hate to see say Rom & Lyran YFA's get fixed and miss another races
(well actually I'd hate to see the Roms ones get fixed, if you want to only change the Lyran YFA's I'm cool with that)

[Bonk]

Think I figured out what up with the missing fighter models. THey're not missing. THe shiplist checker is confused by this fighterlist because a 2 has been added to a normally empty cell witht he comment line at the top of the file. Not sure if this will cause problems in game but I reccomend it be removed.

[Bonk]

Think I also figured out why the Kar_cPatrol  mission may be crashing, I only removed the Gorn donors on the serverside list, not the fed donors... not sure this is why, but I will fix it...

[FPF-DieHard]

Krotz's FYA's are correct.   I hadn't changed any from OP+ 4 for the Romulans.

DH, since you say they are right, would you change them? And if so, we need to work off of what Bonk has now. So after you are done with it, I'll take it and make some ship restrictions/cuts based off the RM's cut list.

Actually . ...

Krotz, what about just changing the KRCS?   The other ships are really flown so I'm not sure if this really mattters.

Dizzy, you can change the FYA/LYA on the server-side list after the server start in case anything gets missed.

[KBFKrotz]

Krotz's FYA's are correct.   I hadn't changed any from OP+ 4 for the Romulans.

DH, since you say they are right, would you change them? And if so, we need to work off of what Bonk has now. So after you are done with it, I'll take it and make some ship restrictions/cuts based off the RM's cut list.

Actually . ...

Krotz, what about just changing the KRCS?   The other ships are really flown so I'm not sure if this really mattters.

Dizzy, you can change the FYA/LYA on the server-side list after the server start in case anything gets missed.

The KRCS is really the main thing...However, a pre-Y170 K9R (w/ "B" refit in Y170, of course) would be really nice/cool so we have something besides a WVL for a late-early/early-middle era DN.

Otherwise, the rest of the stuff isn't a big deal (like you said, people generally fly CON rather than K9RB anyways, sounds like CA hulls will be cheap and accessible so don't need to worry too much about CW hulls, etc.). Since your list seems to be fast becoming the standard for "serious" servers, I'd still like to see such stuff maybe put on the back-burner for a post-SGO5 revision maybe?

Thanks again,

Krotz

[Dfly]

Spend the evening testing missions for Prestige with wingmen.  The following mission list works fine, all got Prestige.

KarnakJPatrol
KarnakePartol
KarnakmPatrol
KarnakCpPatrol
KarnakHPatrol
AlliedFleetPatrol
Metmw17PatrolAllied
Metmw10PatrolAllied
Metmw5PatrolAllied

only one that was not retested was the KarnakcPatrol, which had 2 of 3 players CTD, while the 3rd got a complete, but lost his ship.  Did not get to retry it as it never came up again.

TY Lepton,Risky,Dizzy,TT, and anyone else who helped with this.

[Dizzy]

Lets pull karnak C. It doesnt make me feel well... I had a ctd on it a while ago solo. I'd like to make sure there isnt a model problem 1st.

[Soreyes]

lets also pull the Karnak j mission. Dizzy, Shin and I ctd I believe 3 times on that mission.

Also found that there are no mandatory missions in enemy space at this time. 0320 hours


Shin and I finally got our revenge after Dizzy kicked our Butts 4 out of 5 missions....... Scratch the F-SB in Kzin space

[Bonk]

Lets pull karnak C. It doesnt make me feel well... I had a ctd on it a while ago solo. I'd like to make sure there isnt a model problem 1st.

I have not rebooted the server since removing the fed donors... lets see if it still crashes after that first...

[Bonk]

lets also pull the Karnak j mission. Dizzy, Shin and I ctd I believe 3 times on that mission.

Also found that there are no mandatory missions in enemy space at this time. 0320 hours


Shin and I finally got our revenge after Dizzy kicked our Butts 4 out of 5 missions....... Scratch the F-SB in Kzin space

Mandatories are off at Dizzy's request.

Lets not pull any missions thill the server has been rebooted after removing the Fed donors. (I'm used to doing it differently, I'll remember this donation scheme now... again...)

Are you asking me to remove a Fed starbase from the map?

[Bonk]

Krotz's FYA's are correct.   I hadn't changed any from OP+ 4 for the Romulans.

DH, since you say they are right, would you change them? And if so, we need to work off of what Bonk has now. So after you are done with it, I'll take it and make some ship restrictions/cuts based off the RM's cut list.

Actually . ...

Krotz, what about just changing the KRCS?   The other ships are really flown so I'm not sure if this really mattters.

Dizzy, you can change the FYA/LYA on the server-side list after the server start in case anything gets missed.

I do not want to do nit-picking shiplist edits myself, too busy with this otherwise... Can you guys just provide me the desired shiplist? We gotta stop passing the buck on this. (Dizzy) I will not make nit picking shiplist edits. The only shiplist edits I will make once the server is up are server breaking bugs. Plus I have no patience for pandering to players supposed handicaps, as a player I always managed, not once have I asked for a shiplist change or shipyard modification.

[Bonk]

I think I just figured out what defines a "serious" server. Serious bitching. Players will play on a server in numbers if they are allowed to whine and cry until they get what they want as opposed to just accepting a working mod as it is. (like say OP+4 or SFB-OP-04)

 

[KBFKrotz]

Krotz's FYA's are correct.   I hadn't changed any from OP+ 4 for the Romulans.

DH, since you say they are right, would you change them? And if so, we need to work off of what Bonk has now. So after you are done with it, I'll take it and make some ship restrictions/cuts based off the RM's cut list.

Actually . ...

Krotz, what about just changing the KRCS?   The other ships are really flown so I'm not sure if this really mattters.

Dizzy, you can change the FYA/LYA on the server-side list after the server start in case anything gets missed.

I do not want to do nit-picking shiplist edits myself, too busy with this otherwise... Can you guys just provide me the desired shiplist? We gotta stop passing the buck on this. (Dizzy) I will not make nit picking shiplist edits. The only shiplist edits I will make once the server is up are server breaking bugs. Plus I have no patience for pandering to players supposed handicaps, as a player I always managed, not once have I asked for a shiplist change or shipyard modification.

I think I just figured out what defines a "serious" server. Serious bitching. Players will play on a server in numbers if they are allowed to whine and cry until they get what they want as opposed to just accepting a working mod as it is. (like say OP+4 or SFB-OP-04)

 

Sorry Bonk, didn't mean to offend 

I appreciate the efforts of everyone in the SFC community who has worked to keep this game going or even improve it. My posts are not intended to criticize anyone laboring on this server in particular, nor those authors of any mod, mission scripts, etc. that are on it. I didn't think I'd be adding so much to anyone's workload, even though it is technically "crunch time" with the server starting next weekend...I feel bad this is apparently not so.

Very one likes their toys though 

[Dizzy]

Scratch the F-SB in Kzin space

Bonk, arnt SB's set to be indestructible?

[Dizzy]

Bonk, too much on your plate.

I'm doing a few changes to the list. You wont need to do anything. Ummm, remove the F-PFB. Other than that, I'll make any other changes b4 we go live.

Is the asteroid base mission in? Wanted to test it.

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

Moon model for the M-INT? WTF?

Ohhhh... so thats where it got to!! I had placed Moons on some of the mission maps yet never do they appear in mission. This would explain why... 

[el-Karnak]

Lets pull karnak C. It doesnt make me feel well... I had a ctd on it a while ago solo. I'd like to make sure there isnt a model problem 1st.

I have not rebooted the server since removing the fed donors... lets see if it still crashes after that first...

Load up the EEK mission pack on a dyna using OPPluss or stock shiplist. If the u don't CTD here in CPatrol then it's the shiplist. The feedback evidence in this thread points to a shiplist snafu cuz JPatrol has been running fine since SG3 in 05/2003.  The similarity between JPatrol and CPPatrol is that they are using allied AI so you are probably picking up allies with bad models or doner thingies.

[Bonk]

Scratch the F-SB in Kzin space

Bonk, arnt SB's set to be indestructible?

All bases are set to be destuctable in the server settings (it either all or none). The NW mission config is set to not destroy starbases, and only NW Base assaults are present. I guess this untested feature does not work?

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// For servers which enable "one shot" destruction of bases,
// these probabilities control the likelihood that any one successful mission
// will remove the base from the map
BaseDestructProb = 1.00
BatsDestructProb = 1.00
SBDestructProb = 0.00


[Bonk]

Lets pull karnak C. It doesnt make me feel well... I had a ctd on it a while ago solo. I'd like to make sure there isnt a model problem 1st.

I have not rebooted the server since removing the fed donors... lets see if it still crashes after that first...

Load up the EEK mission pack on a dyna using OPPluss or stock shiplist. If the u don't CTD here in CPatrol then it's the shiplist. The feedback evidence in this thread points to a shiplist snafu cuz JPatrol has been running fine since SG3 in 05/2003.  The similarity between JPatrol and CPPatrol is that they are using allied AI so you are probably picking up allies with bad models or doner thingies.

The missions in question are fine on The Forge (OP+4 as is). See above, I had missed removing the Fed donors from the serverside list, while I had removed the gorn donors. I'm just used to the way I did it in SFB-OP-04 where the donors need not be removed from the serverside list because the races are not split up...

Lets see what we get today.