Topic: Slave Girls V: The Wrath of the Orion Slave Girls!

[Hexx]

Yes but now the Alliance gets ME.

And some other assorted riff-raff that fly Lyran.

Actually reminds me
Has anyone seen Likkerpig btw? Haven't seen him around in abit,


 

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

Yes but now the Alliance gets ME.

Well, at least they won't be short on comedy.

[Dizzy]

I have no problem which side I am flying for... but the last 10 servers or so have been blow outs.  Since the SSCF left, the alliance side hasn't really had a chance.

Well thats a relief. Im glad u dont mind which side u fly for cuz it looks like 10+ Lyrans will show up...

And dont forget SG4. The Alliance crushed the Coalition... They had an excellent turn out. In fact, the Coalition did pretty good too, but they got beat on the PvP front and in the hex flip front. They wernt blown out, but they were shut out.

[Braxton_RIP]

Yes but now the Alliance gets ME.

And some other assorted riff-raff that fly Lyran.

Actually reminds me
Has anyone seen Likkerpig btw? Haven't seen him around in abit,


 

SWEET!!!! I finally get to try the T-Bomb Hexx manouver!  I have been wanting to try it for YEARS!

[Hexx]

OOOOOOOOOOOooooohh

Mr Scary Fed

Please- I've been allied with Klinks for god knows how long
You have any idea why they kept assigning D7L's to "escort" me?

I'll be able to wing with feds in my sleep

[Hexx]

Meant to ask- can we get correct Lyran YFA's for the refits?
DH keeps promising but seems to always forget..

[Braxton_RIP]

OOOOOOOOOOOooooohh

Mr Scary Fed

Please- I've been allied with Klinks for god knows how long
You have any idea why they kept assigning D7L's to "escort" me?

I'll be able to wing with feds in my sleep

Awe.. don't worry.  The GSC series run with 7 transporters as well, I'm sure you'll feel right at home

[Dfly]

Hey Ducky, you flying in this one? your son?

[762_XC]

Well it would be fun to fly with the Coalition for once, but like Bear and Hexx I don't think Lyran numbers are usually any better than Hydran. Perhaps Dizzy is thinking of AOTK2 when every single Mirak switched into a Lyran account whenever PvP was bound to occur. Certainly at times that gave the illusion of a golden plague (or cough at least).

A couple of other questions/comments from the rules, Diz:

- If you lose one of the following ‘Special’ ship types, you may not fly another one for 12 hours. This applies to all of a person’s multiple accounts. The following ships below are considered ‘Special’: Any BB, DN, CVA, BC/V's

Does that mean you may not fly any Special ship, or just one of that type?

- No special ships are allowed to fly in a mission together. If they happen to by accident, one must immediately leave the battle without engaging the enemy AND disengagement rules apply.

Applying the DR to this is not necessary if you require one of them to disengage. Drafting is far from perfect and accidents will happen. Don't make the penalty more than it needs to be.

Assuming you only require one of the cap ships to disengage (without penalty):

At the very least, the disengaging player will be sitting around idle in a cap ship while the other players duke it out. At the very worst he will take up a draft slot which should have been for the other cap ship's wingman. In either case that's enough penalty for the poor sucker who got drafted with the wrong team (which happens all the time).

To make things more interesting, allow the other side to select which of the two cap ships has to disengage.

Hydran
- No more than 50% Hellbore ftrs, (ST-H).

You really need to talk to DH about his mod.

This rule might have made sense before SFB fighters. With SFB fighters however, St-2's get mopped up so badly by drone fighters it's horrifying to watch. In a 16 vs 16 battle with ZYC's 12 of the ZYC's will survive on average. This has been shown in testing and on live servers. St-H's improve that somewhat. Against A-20's and TADS it will be as bad if not worse.

Ask almost any regular Hydran pilot and they will tell you they prefer St-2's unless carriers are around. St-H's are not Hornets dude; against ships they are just plain inferior to St-2's. But against carriers taking St-2's is pure suicide.

Let the players decide.

[Hexx]

Let the players decide.

Agreed

I've decided the Lyrans should get the F-14's now.

[Dizzy]

- If you lose one of the following ‘Special’ ship types, you may not fly another one for 12 hours. This applies to all of a person’s multiple accounts. The following ships below are considered ‘Special’: Any BB, DN, CVA, BC/V's

Does that mean you may not fly any Special ship, or just one of that type?

U cant fly any of them.

- No special ships are allowed to fly in a mission together. If they happen to by accident, one must immediately leave the battle without engaging the enemy AND disengagement rules apply

Applying the DR to this is not necessary if you require one of them to disengage. Drafting is far from perfect and accidents will happen. Don't make the penalty more than it needs to be.

Assuming you only require one of the cap ships to disengage (without penalty):

At the very least, the disengaging player will be sitting around idle in a cap ship while the other players duke it out. At the very worst he will take up a draft slot which should have been for the other cap ship's wingman. In either case that's enough penalty for the poor sucker who got drafted with the wrong team (which happens all the time).

To make things more interesting, allow the other side to select which of the two cap ships has to disengage.

Yes, I like that better. Will amend the rules. Very good idea.

Hydran
- No more than 50% Hellbore ftrs, (ST-H).

You really need to talk to DH about his mod.

Let the players decide.

Ok, Ill talk to dh. Dunno the dynamics here... thats just an old cnc.

[Braxton_RIP]

Let the players decide.

Agreed

I've decided the Lyrans should get the F-14's now.

While we are on these decisions, I have decided that my F-DNL is to be equipped with some of our new found ally's (the Lyrans) ESGs in addition to its standard compliment of weapons.  Four would be good, but I will settle for three...  

[FPF-DieHard]

Ok, Ill talk to dh. Dunno the dynamics here... thats just an old cnc.

I agree with t00l about the Helebore fighter Dynamics.

[Dizzy]

Ok, I'll defer to the two of you. You guys know it better than me. So then no CnC for the Hydrans? Is there any good reason to say that not every squad if there are four can be of the same type? Or no?

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

Usually, it was the hornetII/III's that everyone bitched about....

So the CnC reflected that...

But since the fixing of the fighter fusions that has not been an issue, most of us prefer the wasp/st-2's.

Now, the Hydrans carry the Wasps, St-1's, and St-2's regularly.

Since those fighters are considered the 'standard' fighter, no CnC was placed against Hydrans flying with all fusion fighters.

I don't even think I have used St-H's against a human yet.

[shin]

well if you want to get technical n everything.......the stock 4.0 hellbore fighterss rip ya a new one, andive been happy with the fighter cnc as i havent had to worry about it ever.......of course if ALL the fighters thatll rip right through ya that easily were toned down a bit then the cnc wouldnt be needed...just my 9 cents

[FPF-DieHard]

Ok, I'll defer to the two of you. You guys know it better than me. So then no CnC for the Hydrans? Is there any good reason to say that not every squad if there are four can be of the same type? Or no?

I do not feel any fighter CnC is needed except for the Federation F14 and F15 fighters.   This of course assumes you don't make any changes to my list after I submit it to Bonk for the installer.

[Dizzy]

not touching the ftrlist. EDIT: amended the rules, now they are even shorter! They are a fraction of the rules on SG4. I am so proud!

[762_XC]

Good job Diz. Put me down for Hydran RM.

[FPF-DieHard]

Good job Diz. Put me down for Hydran RM.

Oh this is going to be fun!!