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Offline Clark Kent

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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2005, 05:28:36 pm »
The Router is an Apple Airport Extreme Base station
The modem isa Motorola , name unknown, model # E1016A
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2005, 05:34:24 pm »
Firstly, make sure you have the latest updates http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/

now lemme find the manual and read it...

Crap, there doesnt appear to be a single manual but rather info spread out over a bunch of image rich "friendly" webpages...  ::)

http://search.info.apple.com/?search=Go&lr=lang_en&kword=&q=AirPort%20Extreme
« Last Edit: September 10, 2005, 05:46:26 pm by Bonk »
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2005, 05:43:01 pm »
4.2 update for AEBS is buggy when trying to work with older (like 5 year old) wireless cards, so I have to stay with 4.1 since I am trying to run a couple of older wireless cards on the network.
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Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2005, 05:45:50 pm »
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107432

Oh gawd... most normal routers have an embedded webserver for administration that you can use a normal web-browser to access. You have the CD to install this administration app?

This product is billed as "Extremely powerful and easy to set up and use" ... a little too easy methinks...  ::)

I was wondering if it might just be a "dumb hub", but no such luck, the specs page indicates it has a NAT firewall, we need to get to that...
http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/specs.html

I gotta go out in half an hour... but I'll keep digging till then...

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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2005, 05:49:08 pm »
Apple has four pages of manuals on the AirPort Extreme

http://search.info.apple.com/?search=Go&lr=lang_en&kword=kmanual&q=AirPort%20Extreme

Downloading pdfs over my 31.2k dial-up connection now...  :banghead:  I bet they have lots of prettty pictures and no helpful information.

For reference, this is how it is done right: http://www.linksys.com
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2005, 05:59:37 pm »
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Configuring the Base Station
The AirPort Setup Assistant provides complete configuration options for most AirPort
networks.
For advanced settings, you can use AirPort Admin Utility (in Applications/Utilities) to
configure your AirPort Extreme Base Station. You can use AirPort Admin Utility to do
the following:
• Configure your AirPort network, including changing the network name and
password and specifying whether users need a password to join your network.
• Change the AirPort Extreme Base Station name and password.
• Set advanced security settings, like Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA).
• Enter the TCP/IP settings for your AirPort Extreme Base Station.
• Set up the way Internet access is provided to computers on the AirPort network.
• Set up multiple base stations on a single AirPort network.
Note: If your base station does not support PoE, by default it is set to use the Internet
Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) and Network Address Translation (NAT) to
share a single IP address. If your base station supports PoE, by default it is set up as a
bridge, and the “Distribute IP address” checkbox is deselected in the Network pane of
AirPort Admin Utility.


http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/AirPortExtremeBaseStationSetupGuide.pdf
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2005, 06:00:45 pm »
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Important: If you use AirPort Admin Utility instead of the AirPort Setup Assistant to
configure your base station for the first time, you may be asked for a password. The
initial password for the AirPort Extreme Base Station is public.

See the document “Designing AirPort Extreme Networks,” or “AirPort Networks for
Windows,” located on the AirPort CD and at www.apple.com/airportextreme, for indepth
information on designing and setting up your AirPort network using the AirPort
Setup Assistant and AirPort Admin Utility.
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2005, 06:01:58 pm »
Downloading that manual now...

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/DesigningAirPortExtremeNetworksforWindows.pdf

33% dowloaded... should probably look at this one too:

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Designing_AirPort_Extreme_Networks_v3.4.pdf

Though I thought 4.2 was the latest, perhaps this is the manual we want:

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/AirPort_Extreme_Base_Station_Setup_Guide_v4.2.pdf  (doesnt mention design in the title though...)
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2005, 06:14:21 pm »
I gotta go (going to see hot-air ballons at night...  8))...

I'll go over that manual when I get back, in the meantime you might want to call Apple tech support and tell them exactly how easy to use this "Airport Extreme" is...  ::)  Why can't they do anything normally? About the only normal thing about Apples is their SCSI connectors, thats about it... they never could get a floppy disk to load right.... grrrr....  :banghead:  Like one complete manual for a device would be nice... and too god damn many useless pretty pictures... where's the information? We want information dammit!

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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2005, 06:28:53 pm »
Keep in mind the purpose of this router:
to provide a router that is easy to use and set up for the average user.  It does this very well- while my friend was setting up some other router over hours and days the way he wanted it to be, mine was already up and running, and I was on the internet.  While I have no use for this extreme, I can handle up to 50 comuters on my AEBS, and it has worked flawlessly up to now.  I'll go over to the apple forums and see if anyone knows how I can turn the firewall on and off.  If it's too difficult I won't bother, since I need the firewall for other reasons.
Thanks bonk   ;D
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Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2005, 06:38:43 pm »
ok hijack in progress. should i change the  stuff in my ini file with the info for my modem and the other things listed in this little section?
[IPAddress]
NumOfEntries=1
Entry#0=Local Area Network
[ModemAddress]
NumOfEntries=0
 This is taken directly off of my configuration file.
if i shouldnt add them here where should I add them or should I at all.
 I can play on line I however cannot draft or be drafted at the moment.
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2005, 08:59:49 pm »
Trouble is tha average user wants to play games that require port forwarding... That pdf had no info on how to disable the firewall or forward ports on the AirPort Extreme... lots of pretty pictures as predicted though... I take a look at some of the other manuals tommorow...

Kurok, you do not need to edit your ini file, you need to turn off your firewall(s).  Hmmm I can ping you though... perhaps you have no firewalls running? Are you behind a router?
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2005, 09:19:46 pm »
my dsl modem is also a router. I have dmz enabled so that isnt the problem. Im thinking it is the NAT on my modem. Unfortunatly im not sure it will let me put in an ip adress that will let me disable it. I usualy run behind zonealarm while surfing the net.I however do turn it off for gaming since it does sometimes cause problems. Now when i set up dmz it is to my intrenal ip correct not my public one? I think i sent you the link the other day to the modem that i have.  I know your on a wickedly slow modem so there is no rush to get this done. I can still play.
 Thanks in advance for any help.
 Kurok
 
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2005, 11:54:39 pm »
Here is what I found, can't disable the firewall, so I have to port map.  I have a link, but I haven't figured it all out yet.
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2005, 07:25:31 am »
Glad to hear you found some help on port forwarding on the Airport Extreme Clark. The D2 is a great motivator for learning about networks. ;)

Kurok, yes DMZ to the local IP of the machine you are playing on, (not the public IP) and check to see if it changes as it is likely DHCP assigned.
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2005, 10:54:50 am »
bah, forgot to paste the link.  Hate to admit it, but this is a bit out of my league:
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx/.68999f2d/1
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2005, 11:04:11 am »
I'll take a look...
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2005, 11:07:56 am »
Quote from: Bonk on September 11, 2005, 11:04:11 am
I'll take a look...

<hugs bonk>
mmmm, hard nipples....
Bet punisher wishes he was here.... ;D
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica

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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2005, 11:14:56 am »
Oh give it up already...  ::) Ick!

Think I'll go read Kurok's DSL modem manual for him first...  :P
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Re: Trouble logging in to D2
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2005, 11:17:30 am »
Quote from: Bonk on September 11, 2005, 11:14:56 am
Oh give it up already...  ::) Ick!

Think I'll go read Kurok's DSL modem manual for him first...  :P

Juswt keep in mind, I actually only do this for you amusement.  Not the lurkers though.  I don't know if they laugh or jsut shake their heads in disdain at my antics.
If you'd like, I can send you bewbie pics....
Big bewbies....
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica
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