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Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« on: September 04, 2005, 09:44:44 am »
I bring your attention to this paragrapgh of the cited article:

On top of that, consumers should expect punishment for tinkering with their Blu-ray players, as many have done with current DVD players, for instance to remove regional coding. The new, Internet-connected and secure players will report any "hack" and the device can be disabled remotely.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/09/02/dvd.format.war.reut/index.html

They have got to be kidding. Now to play my movies I'd have to hook up my player and get permission from Hollywood. Gotta be honest, what crack-head studio exec dreamed up this idea?

Will the consumer buy into it or will this kill off the harware DVD retail market?
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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2005, 09:50:05 am »
That's BS, Pure BS. That's one of the reasons I always change the Region on my own PC DVD players. My wifes Ex husband ( Yeah he's an ok guy) Sends me and his kids Videos from Thailand and Kuwait all the time. Now don't get me wrong, If I like a film, Then I'll always Purchase It, and Give Credit where Credit is due.

You know on another Rant, What has Hollywood been doing lately. everything I've seen lately has been once again BS. I tell ya, I'm about ready to have Blyre write a script, have toasty Film It, Have E_look direct It, and me star In It. Well along side Morgan Fairchild.

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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2005, 10:02:29 am »
That's BS, Pure BS. That's one of the reasons I always change the Region on my own PC DVD players. My wifes Ex husband ( Yeah he's an ok guy) Sends me and his kids Videos from Thailand and Kuwait all the time. Now don't get me wrong, If I like a film, Then I'll always Purchase It, and Give Credit where Credit is due.

You know on another Rant, What has Hollywood been doing lately. everything I've seen lately has been once again BS. I tell ya, I'm about ready to have Blyre write a script, have toasty Film It, Have E_look direct It, and me star In It. Well along side Morgan Fairchild.

Stephen

You mean 'on top of' Morgan Fairchild, right?
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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2005, 10:18:54 am »
Look for this technology to go the way of Divx
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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2005, 10:23:27 am »
That's BS, Pure BS. That's one of the reasons I always change the Region on my own PC DVD players. My wifes Ex husband ( Yeah he's an ok guy) Sends me and his kids Videos from Thailand and Kuwait all the time. Now don't get me wrong, If I like a film, Then I'll always Purchase It, and Give Credit where Credit is due.

You know on another Rant, What has Hollywood been doing lately. everything I've seen lately has been once again BS. I tell ya, I'm about ready to have Blyre write a script, have toasty Film It, Have E_look direct It, and me star In It. Well along side Morgan Fairchild.

Stephen

You mean 'on top of' Morgan Fairchild, right?

That'll work, But hey, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...


seriously, there's alot of Truth in that Adam. The PC will become the Modern form of the Home Entertainment center in the next few years.

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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2005, 10:34:52 am »
Wikipedia article on Digital Rights Management (DRM)

They have got to be kidding. Now to play my movies I'd have to hook up my player and get permission from Hollywood. Gotta be honest, what crack-head studio exec dreamed up this idea?

Will the consumer buy into it or will this kill off the harware DVD retail market?


Why are you objecting to this?  You have already accepted the exact same thing with Windows XP.

Google link for  software "Digital Rights Management"

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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2005, 02:24:17 pm »
UMD.

Remember beta anyone? How about 8-track?  ;)

Not to worry, there is always a hack...

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2005, 02:25:38 pm »
Wikipedia article on Digital Rights Management (DRM)

They have got to be kidding. Now to play my movies I'd have to hook up my player and get permission from Hollywood. Gotta be honest, what crack-head studio exec dreamed up this idea?

Will the consumer buy into it or will this kill off the harware DVD retail market?


Why are you objecting to this?  You have already accepted the exact same thing with Windows XP.

Google link for  software "Digital Rights Management"




It is optional in the windows media player, you can turn it off.

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2005, 02:43:57 pm »
It is optional in the windows media player, you can turn it off.

I was referring to Windows XP activation.  There are hacks out there to bypass it - illegal hacks with jail terms associated with them for breaking the copy protection.  The Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA - US law) makes hacking the copy protected (including activation and encryption) illegal.  Look up the deCSSS lawsuits.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2005, 04:58:45 pm »
Oh, I was aware of that, I thought you were discussing movies and such.

I still maintain that the UMD format may make this DVD regulation obsolete anyway.

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2005, 09:00:33 pm »
Wikipedia article on Digital Rights Management (DRM)

They have got to be kidding. Now to play my movies I'd have to hook up my player and get permission from Hollywood. Gotta be honest, what crack-head studio exec dreamed up this idea?

Will the consumer buy into it or will this kill off the harware DVD retail market?


Why are you objecting to this?  You have already accepted the exact same thing with Windows XP.

Google link for  software "Digital Rights Management"




Naught. That's like saying an apple and an orange are the same because both ripen on a tree.
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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2005, 09:02:04 pm »
It is optional in the windows media player, you can turn it off.

I was referring to Windows XP activation.  There are hacks out there to bypass it - illegal hacks with jail terms associated with them for breaking the copy protection.  The Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA - US law) makes hacking the copy protected (including activation and encryption) illegal.  Look up the deCSSS lawsuits.

Still not the same as disableing your hardware.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2005, 09:26:33 pm »
Still not the same as disableing your hardware.

Hardware calls home and is deactivated.

Software calls home and is deactivated - leaving hardware deactivated as well unless you are competent with a different OS.  Quite possibly taking all your data with it.

Very minor difference.
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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2005, 09:45:44 pm »
Thats retarded
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2005, 09:55:57 pm »
Still not the same as disableing your hardware.

Hardware calls home and is deactivated.

Software calls home and is deactivated - leaving hardware deactivated as well unless you are competent with a different OS.  Quite possibly taking all your data with it.

Very minor difference.

OS calls home once==apple

Hardware is constantly monitored==oranges

You are trying to compare apples and oranges and it doesn't work.


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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2005, 09:44:30 am »
Well, if it's on a computer, what happens when I disconnect the internet?  If the result is that the DVD player stops working, they can bet that this technology WILL fail.

If it is on the DVD players that are not on computer, then it's also almost a sure bet this technology will fail as I sure as heck am not connecting my DVD player to the internet for no other reason than validation of whether or not I tampered with it, and I'm betting a majority of people out there will share my view.
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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2005, 10:05:40 am »
UMD.

Remember beta anyone? How about 8-track?  ;)

Not to worry, there is always a hack...


You think UMD is going to do anything productive? Hehehehe.
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Re: Are they freaking NUTZ?!!!!
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2005, 09:26:32 pm »
Wikipedia article on Digital Rights Management (DRM)

They have got to be kidding. Now to play my movies I'd have to hook up my player and get permission from Hollywood. Gotta be honest, what crack-head studio exec dreamed up this idea?

Will the consumer buy into it or will this kill off the harware DVD retail market?


Why are you objecting to this?  You have already accepted the exact same thing with Windows XP.

Google link for  software "Digital Rights Management"


Nope.  I do not now and will not ever run WinXP at home.

By the time I get to the point where older Windows OS will no longer run the software I need, I'll have already completed the changeover to a non-Windows OS.
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