Topic: Using BPV in a campaign is retarded

[FPF-DieHard]

Oh, and DH did an incredible job with his X ships. Fantastic. I think they add a lot. BUT they come out too soon, and I side with chuut on this, they make a lot of ships in 82 and 83 worthless to fly, and that sucks, cuz I really rather enjoy those ships in those years. Its like the BCH and war destroyer days never happen like the old day. I can deal if they come out in 84 and 85. That would rock.

What ships do they make worhtless besides carriers, tenders, droners, and other cheese the imbalance the game in the first place?

The split "points" system on AOT2 allowed for bother BCHs and X-cruiser to server a purpose on the board at the same time.   

[Hexx]

Aren't PF photons supposed to have a max range ?

What's the range of Photf's?

[FPF-DieHard]

Aren't PF photons supposed to have a max range ?

What's the range of Photf's?

Yes, 12 I think (books are still in storage)

PhotF is range 4.

[Corbomite]

Aren't PF photons supposed to have a max range ?

What's the range of Photf's?

PhotF is range 4.

And cannot be reloded by the PF, like all fighter weapons.

[Dizzy]

Well, PF's with photons proxying at range 30 while charging at spd 31 is OTT. I'd like alternatives, or we can just go with the OTT Fed ftrlist and axe the F-PF's altogether.

[FPF-DieHard]

Well, PF's with photons proxying at range 30 while charging at spd 31 is OTT. I'd like alternatives, or we can just go with the OTT Fed ftrlist and axe the F-PF's altogether.

What fighter in the SFBish Fed list is OTT and why?

[Hexx]

Well, PF's with photons proxying at range 30 while charging at spd 31 is OTT. I'd like alternatives, or we can just go with the OTT Fed ftrlist and axe the F-PF's altogether.

What fighter in the SFBish Fed list is OTT and why?

Wouldn't a better question be
Which aren't?
(and why?)

[FPF-DieHard]

Well, PF's with photons proxying at range 30 while charging at spd 31 is OTT. I'd like alternatives, or we can just go with the OTT Fed ftrlist and axe the F-PF's altogether.

What fighter in the SFBish Fed list is OTT and why?

Wouldn't a better question be
Which aren't?
(and why?)

OTT would imply SIGNIFICANTLY better than what the opponents have.  Example:   I-CCZ versus G-BCH.

So the Extra 2 Phasers 3 on the F-14 make it OTT compared the the ZYC and TADS.  Yeah right . . .

And don't say a word about the SPEED 20 A10.

[Hexx]

A phaserG is much more than the sum of three Phaser3's Grasshopper
The A10's capability lay not in it's speed, for it is like the waves on the ocean, slow to move
but capable of instantly firing it's photon torpedoes.

[FPF-DieHard]

A phaserG is much more than the sum of three Phaser3's Grasshopper
The A10's capability lay not in it's speed, for it is like the waves on the ocean, slow to move
but capable of instantly firing it's photon torpedoes.

IT"S THE SAME FIGHTER AS THE VULTURE II BUT SLOWER.

A Speed 20 fighter with a range 4 weapon is OTT?  Damn Hexx, you really must be as good of a pilot as everyone says 

[Hexx]

A phaserG is much more than the sum of three Phaser3's Grasshopper
The A10's capability lay not in it's speed, for it is like the waves on the ocean, slow to move
but capable of instantly firing it's photon torpedoes.

IT"S THE SAME FIGHTER AS THE VULTURE II BUT SLOWER.

A Speed 20 fighter with a range 4 weapon is OTT?  Damn Hexx, you really must be as good of a pilot as everyone says 

Your argument is speciou.. speca..spe... stupid
The Vulture II is obviously OTT as well.
So now we've decided the F14 and A10's are OTT
And I'm not sure how I like the F18b's stand up to a ZYb either...

[FPF-DieHard]

And I'm not sure how I like the F18b's stand up to a ZYb either...

They are the EXACT same fight with the F18 having fewer hitpoint.

[Dizzy]

Hrmmm. It's getting warm in here... 

[Hexx]

Actually now that I think about it, DH is right
The Fed SFBish fighters are amongst the most perfectly balanced weapon system
in this game

Kudos! to whomever designed them, truly a work of inspiration.