Topic: ISC invasion thread.

[Sirgod]

a few questions for Karnak and Bonk.

I'm talking to the F9th fleet and we may subsidise the ISC numbers if this turns out to be needed, but one question in particular came up. What will be the Pirate slot with the ISC? one member expressed intrest in being to overload his engines.

Stephen

[el-Karnak]

When I thought up this campaign 3 years ago, we were still using EAW, so no pirates were planned for.  Since, pirates have minimal effect on the campaign, almost all players always play one of the empire races even if Pirate slots are available. So, we could open up the pirate slots for all races, but I don't forsee more than an small percentage of the players using these slots.

More details on the proposed campaign, from 3 years ago, (ie. am I being drafted to do a campaign, BTW?) can be found at EEK-Scripts.com:

Here's the initial map. It's a reconciliation between SFB races and the canon Star Trek TV show sector maps.  All that neutral areas are the yet-to-be discovered Tzkenthi, Ferengi and Cardassian empires.

Alliances:  F/M/L/H vs. K/R/G/I

Start Date: Y2273
End Date:  Y2293

Real-time Server length:  3 weeks.

Campaign Theme:  Federation and its allies face it's greatest threat when the ISC unexpectantly joins with the Klingon and Romulans, and the Gorn co-erced to join, their quest to rule the Alpa Quadrant.  All the best ships are coming out for all races so the battles should be fast and furious with lotsa PvP fireworks over target planets and SBs.



Historical Background URLs:
ISC Invasion Background Story
and
Battle Carrier Specs.

All the other pages in EEK-Scripts.com regarding this campaign need to be brought up to date, so don't take them seriously, yet . . .

If we do this there are a lot of action items to look at:

• How much OOB?  I am thinking AoTK2 style is good.
• Shiplist?  I'm not a shiplist guy. I would out-source this job to someone who has a proven shiplist that is most popular in the community.
• Missions?  I have a fundamental rule about missions which is thou shalt not CTD or thoroughly irritate too many customers (ie. the playerbase). Any missions that are robust and popular will be considered.
• SQL Server kit?  It would be most cooleth to have.
• X-ships?  Whatever the community wants.
• Able to change race account within your alliance. Sure, I like that a lot.

[Sirgod]

Thanks for the info Karnak, I'll pass It on to the fleet.

Stephen

[Centurus]

ME WANT X-SHIPS!!!  ME WANT X-SHIPS!!!  Actually, I wouldn't mind having the ship in my sig included as a super X-Ship.  hehehehehehehehehe  *gives an evil grin*

Hey, can you blame a guy for advertising his work?

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

I am concerned that the F/M/L/H side won't generate enough committed players for balance based on what I have seen in recent months.

[Sirgod]

See, whenever I first heard about this, I thought It would be the ISC vs. everyone else, and that's why I and the 9th Where considering flying ISC for a change. Now though, It might be prudent to keep our Fleet flying the Big Blue.

Stephen

[FPF-DieHard]

See, whenever I first heard about this, I thought It would be the ISC vs. everyone else, and that's why I and the 9th Where considering flying ISC for a change. Now though, It might be prudent to keep our Fleet flying the Big Blue.

Stephen

ISC versus Everone else can still happen, this isn't the Server Karnak is planniung though.

No reason why we can;t have more than one "ISC Invasion" server.

[Centurus]

Interesting theory.  :-D

[el-Karnak]

See, whenever I first heard about this, I thought It would be the ISC vs. everyone else, and that's why I and the 9th Where considering flying ISC for a change. Now though, It might be prudent to keep our Fleet flying the Big Blue.

Stephen

ISC versus Everone else can still happen, this isn't the Server Karnak is planniung though.

No reason why we can;t have more than one "ISC Invasion" server.

The ISC has never attracted enough players to ever contemplate taking on the rest of the races, so I definitely don't think a ISC vs the rest server will work out numbers-wise.  Fed, Klingon vs. the rest would sound more realistic.

Based on AoTK2, the Rom have no fleet cuz SPQR is RIP, Feds are dangerously low with basically only the F9th and FPF remnants still playing, Mirak are down to maybe 4 regulars, ISC has 4 to 5 regulars, Hyrdans and Gorns are is worse shape than even the Mirak.  The only flleet that has a good showing now is the KBF. While the Lyrans are making a strong come back with the FSD fleet playing.  Isn't that so different from the days of the unicorn sighting Lyran days in past years?! :O

Basically, ISC Inv. would take the FSD fleet and combine them with the F9th/FPF Feds and whatever the players the Mirak and Hydrans can come up with. Facing them would be the corner-stone KBF that would do double-duty covering for the Roms while the ISC will do what they can and we'll pray that we get a couple Gorn regulars on the server.

If the FPF/F9th and KBF stick around for the whole server then the dyna should do OK numbers-wise cuz this is all about expanding on the central concept of Fed versus Klingon power struggle.

[Sirgod]

I like this idea actaully. Maybe something to work towards after the next couple of servers.

Stephen

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Don't have all 3 plasma races on the same side as put forth above....

[el-Karnak]

Don't have all 3 plasma races on the same side as put forth above....

Hmm, you would prefer traditional alliances then?  F/M/H/G vs K/R/L/I.

The primary reason I put the Gorn on the Coalition side was because the Star Trek Canon maps have them in a tenuous position, just like I put the Lyrans a bit far from the Romulans cuz there needs to be some neutral space to explain why the Canon Fed and Rom races had not found the SFB Lyran race.  Notice ISC has neutral zone buffer too.  Basically, if you took away the SFB races that are not in Star Trek canon (ie. Hydrans, Lyrans, ISC) then you have an approximation of the canon Alpha and Beta Quadrant maps, including economic characteristics, used in the TV show and movies.  The Mirak are assumed to be close to the Feds taking the spot of some vague empire spotted on the Star Trek maps north of the Feds.

So, the race locations are firm cuz I want to mirror the SFB/Canon Star Trek map reconciliation as much as possible, but I can switch the alliances around if the Lyrans and Gorn players are agreeable to it.

BTW, the darker hexes that display interior logistical  lines in each empire on the the map are shipping lanes that connect their vital planets and stations. I am thinking of using minor VC rewards for an enemy cutting the other empire's shippling lanes by taking some of these hexes to severe LOS between an empire's vital interests. 

PS. Star Trek canon maps have the Tholians placed south-west of the Cardassians and to the west of the ISC.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

I see what you're saying, However my comment was based on hearing several players over many months saying that they don't want to see a server where all the plasma races are on one side and I can see how that might be considered unbalanced.

[el-Karnak]

That would be kind of interesting to see what each side would do where the Lyrans are initially cut off from their Coalition allies, and the Gorns are about 2 lost hexes from being cut-off from the central Federation core.

I can go with traditional alliances under the above map conditions if that's what most Gorn and Lyran players prefer.

[ShadowLord]

If the server is ISC vs the rest.... Then I would/could be willing to fly ISC to help balance numbers..

Duck

That means I can fly for either the ISC or against them..for whatever race is deemed to need help

[Hexx]

Personally I've grown weary of smacking Feds around.
The Klingon pilots are an entertaining bunch to fly against, I say leave
the alliances as they were.

[Dfly]

in such a case,,even if ISC is not my favorite race, I will fly for them .

[TraumaTech]

please forgive my ignorance,but does CUGS have there own separate players base,as opposed to dynaverse???  if so,why not try and have a campaign server of dynaverse vs cugs?? it be a cool way to bring the two groups together . MAYBE have it like a mirrow mirrow universe compaign with aotk2 winning conditions.and both sides could fly what ever race they wanted.......just a thought


   as for switching gorn and lyran sides       FSD just wants to fly     doesn't matter who we are allied with.The dynaverse has been a lot of fun for us,and we just want to continue playing  for and against the good people we have been flying missions with       TY from ALL of FSD

[Age]

  It seems like Jinn is right Karnak has been busy at his keyboard to quote him on it.